Oscar

[The only place to be 11,313]

He has zero vision. How many through passes has he played this season?

It's obvious to me he's more of a CM than an AM. Can't believe I'm the only one who sees it.

He doesn't have zero vision. He's actually been the heartbeat of this team and whilst he contributes slightly less than Mata in the attacking sense, he contributes far more defensively and also ties the team together better right now.

We actually look like a team rather than offence and defence, which we did last season.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He doesn't have zero vision. He's actually been the heartbeat of this team and whilst he contributes slightly less than Mata in the attacking sense, he contributes far more defensively and also ties the team together better right now.

We actually look like a team rather than offence and defence, which we did last season.

If Hazard puts his shit together and starts his top creating/scoring/assisting skills regulary, then our attck will be all good. Willian on other wing will add danger from there and we are set. But i agree, Oscar does look jack of all trades but he is pretty average (to compare with other CAMs) in attack (vision, passing, through balls, lob passes etc)

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

He has zero vision. How many through passes has he played this season?

It's obvious to me he's more of a CM than an AM. Can't believe I'm the only one who sees it.

Wouldn't say he has zero vision, but def not as good as our other AMs. Mata, Willian and KDB are all more creative than him.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He has zero vision. How many through passes has he played this season?

It's obvious to me he's more of a CM than an AM. Can't believe I'm the only one who sees it.

Just yesterday, he played a through ball between two defenders for Willain for the second goal. It's just very rare that we play a through ball behind the defense since most teams defend deep against us (and because our strikers don't make those runs). When was the last time anyone in our team played a through ball in a central area behind the opposition defense?

[Jase 43,479]

[Henrique 9,133]

This picture was in Chelsea official facebook page, with "Magician" subtitle. There was Chelsea magazine months, 'Ocar Time'. It seems the club really believe he is the future.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Just yesterday, he played a through ball between two defenders for Willain for the second goal. It's just very rare that we play a through ball behind the defense since most teams defend deep against us (and because our strikers don't make those runs). When was the last time anyone in our team played a through ball in a central area behind the opposition defense?

The pass wasn't really good though. Willian had to stretch for it and luckily Willian's class first touch took it past the defender.

Also the last time we played a through ball through the centre was in the same... Ba's goal?

He doesn't have zero vision, that's way too harsh, Oscar has pulled off some great passes before, but he does need to do it on a more consistent basis. Out of our AMs I'd say he is the least creative bar Schurrle.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The pass wasn't really good though. Willian had to stretch for it and luckily Willian's class first touch took it past the defender.

Also the last time we played a through ball through the centre was in the same... Ba's goal?

He doesn't have zero vision, that's way too harsh, Oscar has pulled off some great passes before, but he does need to do it on a more consistent basis. Out of our AMs I'd say he is the least creative bar Schurrle.

Well he didn't say when was the last time he played a good through ball.

I agree that Oscar is not as "creative" (I hate that word!) as the likes of Mata and Hazard, but to say he has zero creativity is just unrealistic.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Strongly disagree. Work-rate is amazing, but you need your #10 to provide more than hard work. They have to be able to make a major impact on offense. He has now played 45 games in in the Premier League and has 8 goals and 5 assists. (11 games this season, 0 assists) That's abysmal. Oscar needs to play but like everyone else, he should have to earn it and hard work shouldn't be the only thing that matters.

Always messing up and manipulating stats at your desire!!!

Oscar was 21, in his first season in Europe and playing out of position; of course he has bad stats...

But this season (until the Newcastle game), he has earned it and has actually played better than everyone else who is competting with him. He has scored goals, protected the defense and created chances. However, it is not his fault he has zero assists if his teammates cant score after a good pass (like today).

Our attack had been very poor, most of it not his fault. It took 3 months for our strikers to score, Hazard is a shell of himself, we cant find a DLP for him to share the responsibilities, etc. It makes things harder...

The numbers itself arent very good (although better if only looking at the current season), but when you see the reasons behind it, you realise they arent abysmal!!!

Now: Oscar has had some very bad games lately. If he continues to perform like that, he must be benched...

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Always messing up and manipulating stats at your desire!!!

Oscar was 21, in his first season in Europe and playing out of position; of course he has bad stats...

But this season (until the Newcastle game), he has earned it and has actually played better than everyone else who is competting with him. He has scored goals, protected the defense and created chances. However, it is not his fault he has zero assists if his teammates cant score after a good pass (like today).

Our attack had been very poor, most of it not his fault. It took 3 months for our strikers to score, Hazard is a shell of himself, we cant find a DLP for him to share the responsibilities, etc. It makes things harder...

The numbers itself arent very good (although better if only looking at the current season), but when you see the reasons behind it, you realise they arent abysmal!!!

Now: Oscar has had some very bad games lately. If he continues to perform like that, he must be benched...

Given how much he works when he's on the pitch and how little rest he gets, it was bound to happen

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Always messing up and manipulating stats at your desire!!!

Oscar was 21, in his first season in Europe and playing out of position; of course he has bad stats...

But this season (until the Newcastle game), he has earned it and has actually played better than everyone else who is competting with him. He has scored goals, protected the defense and created chances. However, it is not his fault he has zero assists if his teammates cant score after a good pass (like today).

Our attack had been very poor, most of it not his fault. It took 3 months for our strikers to score, Hazard is a shell of himself, we cant find a DLP for him to share the responsibilities, etc. It makes things harder...

The numbers itself arent very good (although better if only looking at the current season), but when you see the reasons behind it, you realise they arent abysmal!!!

Now: Oscar has had some very bad games lately. If he continues to perform like that, he must be benched...

These are not complex stats. Goals and assists for an attacking player are a crucial indicator of their performance. Not everything mind you, but they matter a lot. Even if you just look at this season. 11 games, 4 goals 0 assists. Still not good although a lot better than last season. (And it's not just statistical, Oscar plays too much with his head down and doesn't read the play as well as top creators can.) And yes, poor finishing is always a part of low assist totals but Oscar's problem is that he just doesn't create enough chances. Oscar has created fewer chances than Mata despite much more playing time. (Also, the same number of chances as Lampard and Schurrle and fewer than Ramires). Your #10 needs to be creating chances and he isn't. I agree that most of the attack's problems are not Oscar's fault, they're no one's fault in particular but the team's fault as a while, but right now, he simply isn't doing what he needs to do. 3 straight sub-par games on a team loaded with attacking midfielders should earn him time on the bench. Mata hasn't started 3 games in a row all season. I see Chelsea in the middle right now as combinations of Oscar-Lampard and Mata-Mikel. (Oscar doesn't create enough so with Mikel, we are way too defensive. Mata is poor defensively and Lampard simply does not give enough cover.) Right now, I think the second combination needs a chance to see what they can do for a few games. Oscar will (and should) still get a ton of playing time.

[Korea 734]

These are not complex stats. Goals and assists for an attacking player are a crucial indicator of their performance. Not everything mind you, but they matter a lot. Even if you just look at this season. 11 games, 4 goals 0 assists. Still not good although a lot better than last season. (And it's not just statistical, Oscar plays too much with his head down and doesn't read the play as well as top creators can.) And yes, poor finishing is always a part of low assist totals but Oscar's problem is that he just doesn't create enough chances. Oscar has created fewer chances than Mata despite much more playing time. (Also, the same number of chances as Lampard and Schurrle and fewer than Ramires). Your #10 needs to be creating chances and he isn't. I agree that most of the attack's problems are not Oscar's fault, they're no one's fault in particular but the team's fault as a while, but right now, he simply isn't doing what he needs to do. 3 straight sub-par games on a team loaded with attacking midfielders should earn him time on the bench. Mata hasn't started 3 games in a row all season. I see Chelsea in the middle right now as combinations of Oscar-Lampard and Mata-Mikel. (Oscar doesn't create enough so with Mikel, we are way too defensive. Mata is poor defensively and Lampard simply does not give enough cover.) Right now, I think the second combination needs a chance to see what they can do for a few games. Oscar will (and should) still get a ton of playing time.

So, question?

If Mata was playing under MOurinho tactics, do you think we would of had a better record right now? Do you think mata would have better stats?

[Rmpr 8,977]

These are not complex stats. Goals and assists for an attacking player are a crucial indicator of their performance. Not everything mind you, but they matter a lot. Even if you just look at this season. 11 games, 4 goals 0 assists. Still not good although a lot better than last season. (And it's not just statistical, Oscar plays too much with his head down and doesn't read the play as well as top creators can.) And yes, poor finishing is always a part of low assist totals but Oscar's problem is that he just doesn't create enough chances. Oscar has created fewer chances than Mata despite much more playing time. (Also, the same number of chances as Lampard and Schurrle and fewer than Ramires). Your #10 needs to be creating chances and he isn't. I agree that most of the attack's problems are not Oscar's fault, they're no one's fault in particular but the team's fault as a while, but right now, he simply isn't doing what he needs to do. 3 straight sub-par games on a team loaded with attacking midfielders should earn him time on the bench. Mata hasn't started 3 games in a row all season. I see Chelsea in the middle right now as combinations of Oscar-Lampard and Mata-Mikel. (Oscar doesn't create enough so with Mikel, we are way too defensive. Mata is poor defensively and Lampard simply does not give enough cover.) Right now, I think the second combination needs a chance to see what they can do for a few games. Oscar will (and should) still get a ton of playing time.

Oscar has been amazing in the first couple of months, I dont see how someone can ask for more...

However, I do agree he has not being near the same level in the last three games he played. He didnt create much and he hasnt enough flair to run at defenders. We should definitely try something else, like Mata and Mikel (just as you said).

[Blue Armour 4,438]

Oscar has been amazing in the first couple of months, I dont see how someone can ask for more...

However, I do agree he has not being near the same level in the last three games he played. He didnt create much and he hasnt enough flair to run at defenders. We should definitely try something else, like Mata and Mikel (just as you said).

He really needed some rest after starting the last two matches. Today was an opportunity to play Mata...Thought he actually was ok, not too great. The long pass to Hazard in penalty area was great to watch.

[remains of the day 564]

Oscar, at least to me, is putting in the same performances he did back in August/September - he created little chances then and he's still creating very little now. The only difference is that he's not scoring as much. I think the goals deflected attention away from the fact that he rarely had an impact in attack if he wasn't scoring.

I see Chelsea in the middle right now as combinations of Oscar-Lampard and Mata-Mikel. (Oscar doesn't create enough so with Mikel, we are way too defensive. Mata is poor defensively and Lampard simply does not give enough cover.) Right now, I think the second combination needs a chance to see what they can do for a few games. Oscar will (and should) still get a ton of playing time.

The Mata and Mikel combination creates the same problems we had last season, in that far too much of the team's attacking threat was dependent on the performances of just two players (mata and hazard). I've been saying for a while that Oscar is not as good as Mata in the no.10 position but there's a reason why Ramires and Lampard have quite a bit of assists between the both of them. Oscar-Lampard balances the team offensively (and also defensively) - well at least in theory.