The Mak 4,459 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 He had a very bad first half, but improved when he went to Mikel's position. In fact, he wasn't really acting as a DM. Since we were pushing, he and Ramires were more like CMs. That's why I think we should play 4-3-2-1/4-3-3, I fully believe Oscar can make a great CM. At least for now. He can get way too isolated as a AM in big games, probably because of our shit pivot and the fact that he lacks experience in Europe. He needs to get on the ball more, moving him back a bit would do this. He also has an amazing work-rate, the best I've ever seen from an attacking-midfielder, so I think, after a good few games, he'd have no problems at all.Him as a CM would help a lot in the effort of trying to dictate the game. Even when he is deployed as CAM, Mata and Hazard are usually alongside on either flank with only the single striker constantly ahead of him; it's hard to be a playmaker when there's fewer players ahead of you to pass to. And he seems to get this benefit when playing for Brazil.It also unshackles Ramires if he was in another CM spot and gives KDB another position to fill when he gets back.I'm saying this though with next season in mind. I just hate 4-2-3-1; at least while our pivot is so fucking atrocious. Peace. and teignman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 better than watching football wearing oscar tinted glasses...4 months is enough time to change positions? ...... You probably never played sports. You can't significantly gain dribble speed, acceleration, etc in 4 months. BPl wingers are all uber fast and direct. Oscar is not and he is not going to get faster. Adapt? Please, Mata nor Hazard still don't track back consistently, even though it is their responsibility. Oscar, the thinnest person on our squad is also going for the challenges and tracking back. Look at our pivot players, they still can't pick up the ball from the back cause Cech don't trust them. Attitude. I can't understand how you can see his attitude watching 240p streams... I really don't see attitude problems with Oscar, mata or Hazard. Maybe the veterans but not those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I want to see him in the pivot against lesser opposition, if he puts on some weight with more experience I think he could be defensively sound enough. I think he could definitely be a dlp and use his technical ability to maintain posession instead of dribbling by defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 4 months is enough time to change positions? ...... You probably never played sports. You can't significantly gain dribble speed, acceleration, etc in 4 months. BPl wingers are all uber fast and direct. Oscar is not and he is not going to get faster. Adapt? Please, Mata nor Hazard still don't track back consistently, even though it is their responsibility. Oscar, the thinnest person on our squad is also going for the challenges and tracking back. Look at our pivot players, they still can't pick up the ball from the back cause Cech don't trust them. Attitude. I can't understand how you can see his attitude watching 240p streams... I really don't see attitude problems with Oscar, mata or Hazard. Maybe the veterans but not those 3. did i say its enough to change positions or "TO MAKE SUITABLE ADJUSTMENTS".. plus if oscar if so un-flexible that he cant perform against teams like sunderlamd on the wings then whats the point of such a player. (which i feel is total BS because if we he is fresh into the next season and made to play on the wings he would do a good eniugh job). for heaven's sake dint bertrand do the job, was not ramo used on the wings. or is it the first time in the history of football that a player is bein g played out of position to suit the needs of the team???are u serious??? people here want oscar to play in the pivot so by your logic we should not expect any tackles from oscar as he is so lean. also what is next? josh is a cm but due to his physique we wont expect him to do anything. or for that matter LAHM who is one of the most dimunitive footballers i ve seen but defends crosses and what not. is u dont see a problem in oscar's attitude after the sunderland and the kazan game amd not to forget the southampton fiasco and the united nightmare, then there is no point of this debate because u have already made up your mind no matter what i say. also i would advice growing up to you because one joke is funny once only. repeatedly saying "watching the 240p streams" is just embarassing urself because it shown u got nothing more, also i watch my games on a big flat screen tv and not a 13 inch lappy with a crappy internet feed and a closed "oscar" oriented mind but a chelsea oriented mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 did i say its enough to change positions or "TO MAKE SUITABLE ADJUSTMENTS".. plus if oscar if so un-flexible that he cant perform against teams like sunderlamd on the wings then whats the point of such a player. (which i feel is total BS because if we he is fresh into the next season and made to play on the wings he would do a good eniugh job). for heaven's sake dint bertrand do the job, was not ramo used on the wings. or is it the first time in the history of football that a player is bein g played out of position to suit the needs of the team???are u serious??? people here want oscar to play in the pivot so by your logic we should not expect any tackles from oscar as he is so lean. also what is next? josh is a cm but due to his physique we wont expect him to do anything. or for that matter LAHM who is one of the most dimunitive footballers i ve seen but defends crosses and what not. is u dont see a problem in oscar's attitude after the sunderland and the kazan game amd not to forget the southampton fiasco and the united nightmare, then there is no point of this debate because u have already made up your mind no matter what i say. also i would advice growing up to you because one joke is funny once only. repeatedly saying "watching the 240p streams" is just embarassing urself because it shown u got nothing more, also i watch my games on a big flat screen tv and not a 13 inch lappy with a crappy internet feed and a closed "oscar" oriented mind but a chelsea oriented mind. what. What are suitable adjustments to playing a winger? (Also, Berts and Rambo both suckass on the wing)....Am I serious what? Oscar is the only attacking player on our team that tracks back.... I'm pretty sure in Brazil he never had this responsibility, however, since coming to Chelsea he has embraced it 100 percent. Also, what midfield/forward players actually presses on Chelsea? Rambo. Moses and Oscar. Your the only one that questions his attitude. I don't see it. Only thing I see is someone that is getting burned out from playing too many games and running back and forth too much.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 what. What are suitable adjustments to playing a winger? (Also, Berts and Rambo both suckass on the wing)....Am I serious what? Oscar is the only attacking player on our team that tracks back.... I'm pretty sure in Brazil he never had this responsibility, however, since coming to Chelsea he has embraced it 100 percent. Also, what midfield/forward players actually presses on Chelsea? Rambo. Moses and Oscar. Your the only one that questions his attitude. I don't see it. Only thing I see is someone that is getting burned out from playing too many games and running back and forth too much.... suitable adjustements would be crossing the ball, and crossing it so that it beats the wing back and reaches the D, then sticking to the wings instead of trying to always come in the center. stop loosing the ball in double figures in every match while trying to go past a defender specially we wgot mata and hazard. bert and rambo might suckass on the wings but one of them played a big part in UCL final and the other scored an out of a world goal against BARCA from the wing/wingback to give us some hope. so they have paid their dues and proved that players need to ADJUST TO WHATEVER ROLE THEY ARE DEEMED TO BE THE BEST FOR THE TEAM.oscar tracks back because he has to. mean while i would think that hazard and mata would be very much advised to stay up the pitch for a counter under normal situation but to say they never track back tells me exactly what u see while watching a match. hazard provides enough cover for his wingback while i seriously doubt mata is supposed to generally fall back and infact be a way out of defense, if he is so fatigued, then tell me how is he fit to play a role in the pivot??? specialy consideringt that he cant play the dm role so the only role left is the box to box role. do u think that is condusive for a player who is supposedly that fatigued??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 suitable adjustements would be crossing the ball, and crossing it so that it beats the wing back and reaches the D, then sticking to the wings instead of trying to always come in the center. stop loosing the ball in double figures in every match while trying to go past a defender specially we wgot mata and hazard. bert and rambo might suckass on the wings but one of them played a big part in UCL final and the other scored an out of a world goal against BARCA from the wing/wingback to give us some hope. so they have paid their dues and proved that players need to ADJUST TO WHATEVER ROLE THEY ARE DEEMED TO BE THE BEST FOR THE TEAM.oscar tracks back because he has to. mean while i would think that hazard and mata would be very much advised to stay up the pitch for a counter under normal situation but to say they never track back tells me exactly what u see while watching a match. hazard provides enough cover for his wingback while i seriously doubt mata is supposed to generally fall back and infact be a way out of defense, if he is so fatigued, then tell me how is he fit to play a role in the pivot??? specialy consideringt that he cant play the dm role so the only role left is the box to box role. do u think that is condusive for a player who is supposedly that fatigued???And who crosses well on Chelsea? Heck, our corner set pieces are usually duds. LOL, he tracks back cause he has to? So, I guess that is only his responsibility and not Hazard or Mata. Also, you do realize Oscar went from Brazil season straight to Olympics straight to Chelsea..... I guess your not suppose to be fatigued from playing football without any breaks since April... But than again, I doubt you ever play sports to know anything about that. Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 And who crosses well on Chelsea? Heck, our corner set pieces are usually duds. LOL, he tracks back cause he has to? So, I guess that is only his responsibility and not Hazard or Mata. Also, you do realize Oscar went from Brazil season straight to Olympics straight to Chelsea..... I guess your not suppose to be fatigued from playing football without any breaks since April... But than again, I doubt you ever play sports to know anything about that. so if no one crosses well in chelsea, oscar is also not supposed to cross well? nice argument dude. what is LOL if i say he is supposed to track back??? he plays as a winger and since his pool days FSW has been known to play the defensive winger strat... and also how do u say hazard does not track back? also again i say this... mata is supposed to be the guy who transitions our play from defence to attack so GENERALLY he is higher up the pitch so as to provide the link up play. u would know that if u had ever played any sort of good football at some good level instead of in your 5 on 5 in your street football matches.if oscar has had a long hard season what would u say about mata. he literally played every match for us last season, then went to euros, then went to olympics and now he again not only plays 95% of chelsea's matches but also carries the whole team on his shoulders. and that burden was supposed to be distributed between players like oscar who was brought for 25MILLION POUNDS. but so far has had an average season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 His goal today reminds me the one that Drogba scored in Munich. The same assister (Mata), from the same side (right to left), the same jersey (n°11), the same kind of movement and header, etc... You're truly worthy to wear the n°11, Oscar ! Rmpr and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 When he got here he said that he wanted to score at least 10 goals this season.Mission accomplished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Did he have to get switched off? I missed that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Had his best game in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Had his best game in ages.Did we watch the same game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Had his best game in ages.He just scored, the rest was poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Did we watch the same game? Pretty sure we did...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 21, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted April 21, 2013 Scored, defended well, fought to regain possession... good performance. He's the least flashy of the trio, but the most rounded and consistent. His teamwork is always good, even when he's not at his best. Peace., semiller1313, The Skipper and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Pretty sure we did......I thought all the 3 amigos and Torres didn't play well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Good header goal but it made all possible when, for whatever reason, Lucas moved from that near post to the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DONI. 1,291 Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted April 22, 2013 Oscar speaking English. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P76FlypV4co&feature=youtu.be Dion, Rmpr, BlueLion. and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 ^^LMAO!!! Can't stop laughing :lol: I thought he had his best game for us in ages. Very very lively, defended well and was excellent on the ball and got a goal as well. Not sure what more you'd want from him. semiller1313, Dion, Rmpr and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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