🇧🇷 Oscar

[Oscar 441]

You think Oscar is better than KDB. That is ludicrous imo. Clear we made a mistake but you want to deny it.

Mistake? WHY

He was never going to pull those stats here at Chelsea, so what mistake did we make? Only mistake was not adding a performance clause into the deal.

This isn't like Pogba and United where United needed Pogba. We don't need KDB, we already have Cesc.

[Stats 7,142]

Mistake? WHY

He was never going to pull those stats here at Chelsea, so what mistake did we make? Only mistake was not adding a performance clause into the deal.

Because he is clearly better than all of our AM bar Hazard. He also is younger than Hazard and will get better. He will not get the same stats but would he improve us? Of course he would. I also think he would have helped us in Europe too but last season against PSG for example even with an extra man the tactic was get the ball to Hazard. No one else took responsibility. Something KDB would have done. Let's just see the next few games and see how KDB performs.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

He had a good fucking game. Kompany was injured before kick off. Aguero was not at the races. How can that loss be blamed on KDB? Although there are many views you say which I disagree on at least there is reasoning to it. This is just pure rubbish because you dislike KDB. If everyone was up to scratch and they did not make defensive errors and Aguero was more sharp they could have easily won. Such a ludicrous point.

That is the performance I wish Oscar could put in for us. KDB has defensive work and everything you want offensively from a no.10 Just accept he is a quality player, had a ood game and stop making ludicrous points like them losing was KDB fault.

have you thought that maybe Aguero wasnt at the races as he didnt get good service? when Silva plays in the hole he always creates for Aguero, i cant remember seeing KdB create any good chances from open play, I bet Aguero cant wait for Silva to get back from injury.

[zolayes 14,489]

Mistake? WHY

He was never going to pull those stats here at Chelsea, so what mistake did we make? Only mistake was not adding a performance clause into the deal.

This isn't like Pogba and United where United needed Pogba. We don't need KDB, we already have Cesc.

check what people have been saying about Cesc ... and since you are so fond of quoting random stats , look at Cescs stats for the 2nd half of seasons including

the last

[Oscar 441]

check what people have been saying about Cesc ... and since you are so fond of quoting random stats , look at Cescs stats for the 2nd half of seasons including

the last

KDB didn't have the same responsibilites as Cesc did.

Cesc, even though his pace is similar to a turtle can put in a defensive shift better than KDB can. Did you see the juve game where KDB kept getting destroyed on the wings when he was introduced into the game... i'm sure the belgians can't deny this, but his tackling ability might be even worse than Juan Mata.

Cesc is a better fit than KDB here, so, no lost imo.

it's like barca fans dont give a shit about Cesc leaving them because rakitic was a better fit for them.

[Stats 7,142]

have you thought that maybe Aguero wasnt at the races as he didnt get good service? when Silva plays in the hole he always creates for Aguero, i cant remember seeing KdB create any good chances from open play, I bet Aguero cant wait for Silva to get back from injury.

He did but Reid had him under control. There is no two-ways about it. He was City's best player yesterday. Aguero had few chances but fluffed them.

[bluesman2610 1,417]

KDB is a quality player and he will add quality to the City squad 100%..it was a poor decision by Jose to treat him the way he did but I also believe it helped his career, he went to Wolfsburg with a point to prove.. But for those who are still doubting Oscar impact have complex with greener grass because there has been an improvement in the team in the last two games he's been back

[Stats 7,142]

KDB is a quality player and he will add quality to the City squad 100%..it was a poor decision by Jose to treat him the way he did but I also believe it helped his career, he went to Wolfsburg with a point to prove.. But for those who are still doubting Oscar impact have complex with greener grass because there has been an improvement in the team in the last two games he's been back

I think Oscar done well but people really overrate his performances. Maccabi are awful and any player playing that day would have excelled. Willian was excellent during the game, like everyone else. We would have battered them with or without Oscar. They were that awful. Arsenal, defensively he impressed me with 2 great slide tackles but was frustrating on an offensive POV. But he done well but we were mainly helped by the red card tbh. That is what influenced the game.

[zolayes 14,489]

KDB is a quality player and he will add quality to the City squad 100%..it was a poor decision by Jose to treat him the way he did but I also believe it helped his career, he went to Wolfsburg with a point to prove.. But for those who are still doubting Oscar impact have complex with greener grass because there has been an improvement in the team in the last two games he's been back

I like Oscar and have always defended him ,, but I also think KDB is a class player ,, Some here can't accept that . I think BOTH could have fitted into our team

[Unionjack 7,531]

I like Coutinho and I think he would be great as part of Chelsea. I think hes got more to offer offensively and has more chance of being a game changer than Oscar.

But I do like Oscar. Admittedly more for his high up defence. The way he stayed level with the defenders and only dropping back when he had to is what we should do more of. It was the same way he played against them in April. Hes come on good this last couple of games as well as a few of the lads. But Oscar isn't a number 10 and we dont have one.

But I am glad hes with us and he does have some amazing moments for us.

[Rapkun 668]

I thought people would change their minds about Oscar after the disasterous couple of games we had without him but I guess it's just impossible for him to please our fans.

I think the issue is that people are comparing him to creative n10s the likes of Silva,Ozil,James.. He's not that type of player and probably never will be.

He leads the pressing in the team and maintains defensive stability. He retains possession, plays small combinations with the other attacking players and helps our star player shine(Hazard). He has a fair amount of goals/assists a season for someone who isnt the focal point of his team. It's no surprise we had players like Eden and Fabregas underperforming while he was not playing. He's a modern day n10.

[bluesman2610 1,417]

I think Oscar done well but people really overrate his performances. Maccabi are awful and any player playing that day would have excelled. Willian was excellent during the game, like everyone else. We would have battered them with or without Oscar. They were that awful. Arsenal, defensively he impressed me with 2 great slide tackles but was frustrating on an offensive POV. But he done well but we were mainly helped by the red card tbh. That is what influenced the game.

I'm not saying the final result was due to Oscar playing far from it as you alluded he was decent in the final third making some combinations with the other attackers but he needs to add more killer passing to his game he doesn't attempt it enough tries to play simple pass and leaves the more dangerous ones for Cesc or Hazard. Bar a some miss passing in the arsenal game he was the reason prior to the sending off why we were in better control of the game. He links up with Fabregas and Hazard very well, and did Fabregas' defensive duties for him. The impression I get from Oscar is he is a balance tactical player who recycles possession getting the ball into the feet of players who can change the game, as a team sport not everyone in the team can be game changers he has a role and does it quite well when he is in form. Oscar also supplies goals and assists as a number 10 should but those numbers could be better but that comes with consistency which is my only issue with him about his play since he signed otherwise I don't think we have a player in our team with a better football IQ in our team, the way he is able to asses on the fly where the team needs him. I know a lot here have made their minds up on Oscar because he's no Mata/KDB who will play that killer pass or score that wonder goal on regular basis but what the kid does have is heart and a will to sacrifice his creativity for the cause of the team, that's something you can't teach

I know very long but thanks for sticking with me on that one

[bluesman2610 1,417]

I like Oscar and have always defended him ,, but I also think KDB is a class player ,, Some here can't accept that . I think BOTH could have fitted into our team

I agree with you wholeheartedly as I said KDB is a classy player and we would have been smart to keep hold of him but he didn't factor into Jose's plans and we have to live with that mistakemistake. Mourinho is not infallible and has made errors, we just gotta hope that he has a plan for the future whether it be with some of the promising youngsters we have in attacking positions or that he sees a player out there that tactically would suit our style(whatever that is) better than what KDB would've given us. Brilliant manager but definitely got that one wrong especially how Roman wanted to play a more continental style of football, the Mata's And KDB's would have been vital to that

[Gilvorak 3,734]

I'm confident Oscar will finish the season with more goals/assists than every other AM in the League this season.

[quickpassnmove 924]

sounds like some users think Oscar has really matured. will be interesting to see what he can do, but if Chelsea don't have strength, speed and capability in CM and fullback, the whole season could just be a mess regardless of how good any one player MIGHT play. doesn't take long to become discouraged with the chances conceded from the right flank and the weakness in CM.

[Henrique 9,133]

On pro evo, yes.

Not sure where are coming from. Hulk is easily the most underated striker around. For me he is easily better than Diego Costa and would be perfect for a PL football. His UCL performance for the average Zenith speaks loud about his quality. His WC was bad, but im my books that was more related with Scolari's poor tactics than anything. Hulk with Neymar, was the best player for Brazil when Mano Menezes was the coach and was playing with no typical CF at all.

[Henrique 9,133]

I like Oscar and have always defended him ,, but I also think KDB is a class player ,, Some here can't accept that . I think BOTH could have fitted into our team

2013 we had Mata, Oscar, KDB, Hazard and William in the same team. 2015 we are left with Pedro.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Without OSCAR our team doesn't work - it's as simple as that for me!

Yes he is sometimes a frustrating player - but he glues the team together and sets the tone for passing and tackling.

Long may it continue

[Special Juan 28,141]

Great to see him back, the lad now needs a real good run of games and performances and I think all our form comes back with it.

Good platform to build off the performances against Maccabi and Arsenal.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Not sure where are coming from. Hulk is easily the most underated striker around. For me he is easily better than Diego Costa and would be perfect for a PL football. His UCL performance for the average Zenith speaks loud about his quality. His WC was bad, but im my books that was more related with Scolari's poor tactics than anything. Hulk with Neymar, was the best player for Brazil when Mano Menezes was the coach and was playing with no typical CF at all.

your hatred towards Costa makes you come out with stupid comments like this. Costa's finishing and movement are levels above Hulk. I watched Hulk yesterday against Amkar Perm, he was awful.

last season

Hulk - 15 goals in 28 games - 109 shots - 54% shot accuracy

Costa - 20 goals in 26 games - 76 shots - 64% shot accuracy

and I dont need to tell you which of them plays in the weakest league.