Land 331 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Also it seems you guys forgot what happened just a couple of months ago.We got rid of the best AM in the league because he didnt fit in our system, and now you lot want to replace our system #10 with even lesser players than Mata.What would be the logic.The funny part is people are mentioning Kroos and Isco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't think the people criticizing as understanding the debate. NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE AS A CHELSEA FAN WANT OSCAR TO GO. Just that for the price HE CAN GO because it is too good to miss. With all the FFP stuff he will never ever reach that 60-80m mark people are hoping for. And another thing is that there are perfect replacements on market for decent prices and that is why some people wouldn't mind we letting him go for an inflated fee. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't think the people criticizing as understanding the debate. NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE AS A CHELSEA FAN WANT OSCAR TO GO. Just that for the price HE CAN GO because it is too good to miss. With all the FFP stuff he will never ever reach that 60-80m mark people are hoping for. And another thing is that there are perfect replacements on market for decent prices and that is why some people wouldn't mind we letting him go for an inflated fee. It would cost us more to replace him. It's as simple as that. Draxler would cost £37 million and isn't proven in this league in the slightest. remains of the day, Barbara, Mohammed Seif and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't think the people criticizing as understanding the debate. NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE AS A CHELSEA FAN WANT OSCAR TO GO. Just that for the price HE CAN GO because it is too good to miss. With all the FFP stuff he will never ever reach that 60-80m mark people are hoping for. And another thing is that there are perfect replacements on market for decent prices and that is why some people wouldn't mind we letting him go for an inflated fee. What the F??? we have torres, ba , etoo, marin , moses, kakuta, mikel, lamps, bertrand, cole , pva and add to that we might very well sell luiz and cech/courtois. But u want to sell the lynchpin of this team and system. What more u want to sell him for 40mil but replace him with another 40mil rated draxler/isco/kroos. Where is the sensr in this?,, babu and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 9, 2014 Great idea....and replace him with who exactly?I'm available!See, I check almost all the same attributes as Oscar's. I'm Brazilian, at around the same age, Chelsea fan, etc... yuvala, BlueLion., Stingray and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fernando 6,585 Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 9, 2014 What the F???we have torres, ba , etoo, marin , moses, kakuta, mikel, lamps, bertrand, cole , pva and add to that we might very well sell luiz and cech/courtois. But u want to sell the lynchpin of this team and system. What more u want to sell him for 40mil but replace him with another 40mil rated draxler/isco/kroos. Where is the sensr in this?,,No sense, hence this topic is wortheless debating.Now if they where offering like 60 to 80 million, then that might be an eye turner. But then again why would PSG offer that amount when they can easily get Draxler for less? So when you look at the things being said now, it does not makes sense, and no point contemplating such topic any further. Barbara, The only place to be, didierforever and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Well Kroos will only cost around 20-25m max seeing he only got less than 1 year left...and he is ALREADY better than Oscar at least atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 no where in hell will kroos dat meagre amount despite his limited contract period....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 9, 2014 Well Kroos will only cost around 20-25m max seeing he only got less than 1 year left...and he is ALREADY better than Oscar at least atm.He's also two years older. Let's compare Kroos now with Oscar after another two years of tutelage from the Special One, who is building a team around him and Hazard. bluesman2610, Rmpr, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Great idea....and replace him with who exactly?We'll find someone.If we don't then obviously dont sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 List of players to replace Oscar:DraxlerKroosIsco( he will want to leave if Madrid keep benching him)and more...Nah Draxler isn't much better (if any).Kroos probably isn't available + not sure he's what we need.Isco is a player I'd really like to see because I really think he has that special something to be one of the best. The thought of him and Hazard linking up..Real wont sell him though and I'm not sure he fits Mou's plans. Oscar does..This is really strange to me. A young TALENTED player who was performed great in the first half season and dropped in form in the second half SO WHAT? It happens to the most mature players in the world. This is no excuse to THINK of selling him even for 40 mil. Man if managers would sell players for dropping in form , no player would remain in a club for a full season. Be patient he is still developing and with the World Cup he will definitely improve and get more experience.I think some of you don't really get my point. You make it look as if I said "Oscar hasn't been performing lately and therefore we should definately sell him ASAP !"That's really not the case. I love oscar.. I think he'll be a great player. But for me, if someone offered 40m I'd have to atleast consider it.Anyways that report (of the 40m offer) is probably BS and Chelsea aren't gonna sell Oscar so.. no point in this. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 List of players to replace Oscar:DraxlerKroosIsco( he will want to leave if Madrid keep benching him)and more...None of those is better than Oscar apart from Kroos who wouldn't fit Mou's system. I'd rather have Meyer than Draxler btw. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a little concern about our player from Brazil. It looks to me that they play better for the NT than the club. Half hearted performances from Oscar and Luiz recently. They should not forget that the team is always more important. If you dont give everything for your team in a teamsport you wont go far with your career. (opinion, not fact) BUTI take Oscar over any other young talented '10' player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I have a little concern about our player from Brazil. It looks to me that they play better for the NT than the club. Half hearted performances from Oscar and Luiz recently. They should not forget that the team is always more important. If you dont give everything for your team in a teamsport you wont go far with your career. (opinion, not fact) BUTI take Oscar over any other young talented '10' player.Because they compliment each others in that team and have world class LB & RB to help them in attack.Look Azpi's heat map of yesterday game, how on hell the danger could come from the left flank? So Eden is always 1 vs 2. If he gives the ball to Oscar, one of them can roam to help Oscar's defender and that limits Oscar's ability to create something we are making their bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted March 10, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 10, 2014 That's one odd-looking heat map Stingray, kellzfresh, xnaed and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I have a little concern about our player from Brazil. It looks to me that they play better for the NT than the club. Half hearted performances from Oscar and Luiz recently. They should not forget that the team is always more important. If you dont give everything for your team in a teamsport you wont go far with your career. (opinion, not fact)BUTI take Oscar over any other young talented '10' player.I had this discussion a few days here. Again it's only my opinion, not a fact either.Brazilian players are light - in the style and physically by default. Hulks aren't easily found here except for defenders and from time to time a CF. Our wingers, midfielders and strikers are normally very light, used to a lot of space, with slow football and way less physical. When they go to a league like English it's a shock of reality. Why do you think Ramires took two years to really be able to cope? He said for a few months he felt like a truck ran over him after he finished the matches. When they play for the NT they normally play Brazilian style. Also the same reason they more often than not play better in Europe. The style of many countries is less demanding physically, they have big pitches and the teams are slower than what they face in England. Other South American countries are more physical, or faster or other characteristics more similar to Europe although in general South American football is about flair, talent and time to think style, while European is faster, more physical and more tactical. Tactically we're years behind Europe (generally speaking). That's the reason why. David Luiz may have had half-heartened presentations for us. Ramires, Oscar and Willian never had one. They give their all every single match, even if they suck that particular day and have dips of forms now and then Roquila and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 10, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 10, 2014 I have a little concern about our player from Brazil. It looks to me that they play better for the NT than the club. Half hearted performances from Oscar and Luiz recently. They should not forget that the team is always more important. If you dont give everything for your team in a teamsport you wont go far with your career. (opinion, not fact) Just because Oscar and Luiz play better for Brazil, it doesnt mean they are not giving their all at Chelsea or that club football isnt their focus!The thing is Brazil is a team with excellent chemistry and very well coached (by two WC champions, btw). It is not only our players that play better for Brazil than for their clubs, it's almost everyone: Julio Cezar, Daniel Alves, Paulinho, Neymar, Fred, etc. Everybody has upped their game when playing for Brazil lately.Now, with Mourinho and a little more experience, Oscar will certainty improve. I predict he not only will start playing in the same level for Chelsea as he does for Brazil, but he will become even better. It is what he does with us that will ultimately define him, not Brazil!Dont worry, he will come good... Roquila, Ainsley Harriott, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just because Oscar and Luiz play better for Brazil, it doesnt mean they are not giving their all at Chelsea or that club football isnt their focus!The thing is Brazil is a team with excellent chemistry and very well coached (by two WC champions, btw). It is not only our players that play better for Brazil than for their clubs, it's almost everyone: Julio Cezar, Daniel Alves, Paulinho, Neymar, Fred, etc. Everybody has upped their game when playing for Brazil lately.Now, with Mourinho and a little more experience, Oscar will certainty improve. I predict he not only will start playing in the same level for Chelsea as he does for Brazil, but he will become even better. It is what he does with us that will ultimately define him, not Brazil!Dont worry, he will come good...I hope you're right with your last sentence. I really don't want Oscar to become another Adriano, playing good for a year or two and then disappear completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I hope you're right with your last sentence. I really don't want Oscar to become another Adriano, playing good for a year or two and then disappear completely.Oscar is not Adriano, trust me!Adriano only had a couple of fantastic seasons because he was never able to stay sober. He is an alcoholic who has fought depression throughout his whole life. It was never his football that was the problem, but his mental and physical health due to all his off the pitch problems!Definitely nothing similar to our Oscar... Barbara and babu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Oscar is not Adriano, trust me!Adriano only had a couple of fantastic seasons because he was never able to stay sober. He is an alcoholic who has fought depression throughout his whole life. It was never his football that was the problem, but his mental and physical health due to all his off the pitch problems!Definitely nothing similar to our Oscar...My point was that i don't want him to disappear after some years like most talents do. Adriano was just the first that came in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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