🇧🇷 Oscar

[BlueLion. 21,491]

lol @ people wanking over a simple pass

Imagine if Hazard did that? I bet you'd be like

[Sheva. 5,373]

Simple pass in Fifa yes, but not in real life. That was nicely done.

[Barbara 15,149]

This is why I can't believe it when some of our fans don't want Oscar in the starting eleven.

Amazing player - it's a joy to watch him play for brazil. He is going to be very good in his second season in England.

completely agree, mate

[Barbara 15,149]

Agreed, brilliant.

He is by far the best player on our NT when it comes to passing, it's ridiculous how unappreciated he is by the masses over here.

this Brazilian girl here appreciates him just fine. He's amazing. My second fave player in Chelsea and definitely my fave in NT.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

He is the type of player that is just everywhere, even if he is not having a good game on the ball, 99/100 times he will be excellent off it.

[Toli 977]

lol @ people wanking over a simple pass

if KDB would have played this pass you would be calling him God or something you know

[Barbara 15,149]

I think we should be happy to have them all. Some of us will like one better than the other. I like Eden better, but I think Oscar is amazing and should play. And also think the pass was brilliant.

ITA with everybody who pointed out the difference between adapting from Brazil to England compared to adapting from another country in Europe.

It's about the style, the structure and even what's expected about the player.

Most managers in Brazil still give a lot of tactical freedom to players like Oscar and the way the game is played (and the quality and level of it) is so different, that it really makes no sense to make a comparison.

I expect nothing short of greatness from him next season. Nothing less. I know he will deliver.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Said it before and I'll say it again, Oscar is the most talented player on the team and we should be building the team around him. Mata out wide next season please.

He's a complete footballer. Technically perfect, amazing stamina & vision, unbelievable work rate and incredible tactical nous. His form in the CL showed he's a reliable scorer as well.

lol @ people wanking over a simple pass

90th minute after a 70 game season. Received the ball in his own half, ran with pace at two markers, cut inside and played in a perfectly disguised weighted pass to Jo. Made his mind up for him and he didn't even need a touch to get his shot off.

You're clueless because very few players can make that play in football.

[Fernando 6,585]

I still laugh when some people say kdb is better then Oscar.

Silly people.

[Toli 977]

i really hope mou puts him in the double pivot..he has everyhting. work-rate, vision, stamina..hell he has the most tackles in the game as a CAM/RW. i could really see him into developing as a deep-lying playmaker. he just needs to work on long-range passes.

[Symbol123 175]

Never mind

[AndersonBLUE 819]

It was a good pass. On a shit playing surface too.

[GhanaBoy 104]

i really hope mou puts him in the double pivot..he has everyhting. work-rate, vision, stamina..hell he has the most tackles in the game as a CAM/RW. i could really see him into developing as a deep-lying playmaker. he just needs to work on long-range passes.

ahh.. what about NO!! Mata please move over

[Barbara 15,149]

i really hope mou puts him in the double pivot..he has everyhting. work-rate, vision, stamina..hell he has the most tackles in the game as a CAM/RW. i could really see him into developing as a deep-lying playmaker. he just needs to work on long-range passes.

I wish I could understand better some expressions you guys use in English.

I'm pretty worded in Portuguese and I feel like sometimes I disagree with people because the words in English are too different from portuguese or simply because of smaller differences we don't say here.

I was talking privately to one of the guys the other day and I told him Xabi Alonso and Ramires are DM's and he said they aren't.

In Brazil we call 'volante' the defensive midfield that protects the fullbacks and have mainly defensive responsibilities. We have first volante - the most defensive - and second volante - someone less defensive, but defensive nonetheless.

Xabi is one of the best in the 2nd volante position imo - because in Brazil that's what we call him. He has amazing stats - pretty perfect if you ask me - in interception, tackling and making the transition between defensive and offensive sides of the pitch.

Is that what you guys call pivot? A guy who tackles a lot, tries to recover the ball at all times and has a good pass to start a counter-attack?

Also, the deep-play you guys mean is the long passes from defense to attack?

(sorry for being an English dummy and bothering you with this stuff, but I'm here to learn too )

If that's the case, I don't see Oscar being this guy. He's way too talented to be a Xabi Alonso only and I don't think he has the defensive skills - not even close - and I don't see him developing defensively to the point of being a world class in the position (as far as I understand the position)

I think he's great as a CAM or a RW and with the tactical discipline Mourinho is going to teach him, he'll be amazing tackling the ball in the attacking field. I don't want him to go too behind, I want him to play at all times in the attack field, only going to the defensive field when there's heavy attack from the opponent. He's too light (physically) to be a good 'volante' imo although Ramires proves me wrong in that department just fine.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Oscar needs to be put in the middle and given freedom to play. His passing and control of the game is already showing spurts of world class.

With Mata already arguably the best AM in the world, Hazard and Oscar with a year in the EPL under their belt and ready to explode onto the scene and become world class and KDB one of the best players in the Bundesliga and a future world class player, our team looks insanely and terrifyingly talented.

Hazard Mata De Bruyne

Oscar DM

[teignman 441]

I wish I could understand better some expressions you guys use in English.

I'm pretty worded in Portuguese and I feel like sometimes I disagree with people because the words in English are too different from portuguese or simply because of smaller differences we don't say here.

I was talking privately to one of the guys the other day and I told him Xabi Alonso and Ramires are DM's and he said they aren't.

In Brazil we call 'volante' the defensive midfield that protects the fullbacks and have mainly defensive responsibilities. We have first volante - the most defensive - and second volante - someone less defensive, but defensive nonetheless.

Xabi is one of the best in the 2nd volante position imo - because in Brazil that's what we call him. He has amazing stats - pretty perfect if you ask me - in interception, tackling and making the transition between defensive and offensive sides of the pitch.

Is that what you guys call pivot? A guy who tackles a lot, tries to recover the ball at all times and has a good pass to start a counter-attack?

Also, the deep-play you guys mean is the long passes from defense to attack?

(sorry for being an English dummy and bothering you with this stuff, but I'm here to learn too )

If that's the case, I don't see Oscar being this guy. He's way too talented to be a Xabi Alonso only and I don't think he has the defensive skills - not even close - and I don't see him developing defensively to the point of being a world class in the position (as far as I understand the position)

I think he's great as a CAM or a RW and with the tactical discipline Mourinho is going to teach him, he'll be amazing tackling the ball in the attacking field. I don't want him to go too behind, I want him to play at all times in the attack field, only going to the defensive field when there's heavy attack from the opponent. He's too light (physically) to be a good 'volante' imo although Ramires proves me wrong in that department just fine.

Quite a post, where to start?

First, I think you have a good grasp of the whole volante/DM terminology. Ramires can play DM/volante, but his skills do not translate particularly well to that role. He is best suited as a box to box midfielder, i.e. the second most advanced midfielder in a 4-3-3. Xabi can play DM/volante, but is probably better in the role that you described. And, yes, Xabi is an excellent pivot player from his days at Liverpool until now at Real. The pivot is the "2" in a 4-2-3-1. Ideally, one of these players is a DM/volante and the other is a deep lying playmaker (players like Modric or Pirlo). The deep lying playmaker focuses on keeping/recycling possession, but more importantly linking defense with attack through their passing.

I think you're analysis of Oscar and his strengths and weaknesses is excellent. I hope that I've helped answer some of your questions about terminology, not that you needed much help. You already seem to have a fantastic grasp of the lingo. You're definitely NOT an "english dummy." I guarantee you that your English is much, much better than my Portuguese.

[Barbara 15,149]

Quite a post, where to start?

First, I think you have a good grasp of the whole volante/DM terminology. Ramires can play DM/volante, but his skills do not translate particularly well to that role. He is best suited as a box to box midfielder, i.e. the second most advanced midfielder in a 4-3-3. Xabi can play DM/volante, but is probably better in the role that you described. And, yes, Xabi is an excellent pivot player from his days at Liverpool until now at Real. The pivot is the "2" in a 4-2-3-1. Ideally, one of these players is a DM/volante and the other is a deep lying playmaker (players like Modric or Pirlo). The deep lying playmaker focuses on keeping/recycling possession, but more importantly linking defense with attack through their passing.

I think you're analysis of Oscar and his strengths and weaknesses is excellent. I hope that I've helped answer some of your questions about terminology, not that you needed much help. You already seem to have a fantastic grasp of the lingo. You're definitely NOT an "english dummy." I guarantee you that your English is much, much better than my Portuguese.

first of all, thanks a lot. You guys have tons of patience with me here. I'm spoiled

Also, are you a teacher as well? Because I must say as one myself, your didactic is flawless. I understood you so perfectly! I love that you brought the formations. It's easier to understand like that and I worship the ground Pirlo walks on, so using him as an example is pretty great as well.

I feel accomplished with this post. Where do I save it? Liking it is definitely not enough.

now do you speak Portuguese at all, or you were just trying to be nice to me?

I know my English isn't that bad, but I'm so clueless about the lingo in some areas that it hurts.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

I would go as far to say he's Brazil's best player.

Thiago Silva says hi.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Oscar is so good at putting pressure on players, his presence in the AM will nulify all the 3 vs 2 midfield problems we had last season. And he has the pace, stamina and vision for counter attacks.

I just feel so bad that he can't play often in the centre for us because mata is already there.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Thiago Silva says hi.

Really? If, in your opinion, Brazil's best player is a centre-half it speaks volumes of their World Cup chances.

Brazil have a good team, without any truly outstanding individuals. Of course the likes of Thiago, Oscar and Neymar are good players, but, in my opinion, they are not at the "outstanding" level we'd associate with Juan Mata, Gareth Bale, Ronaldo, Schweinsteiger, Messi, etc. I think that will be both Brazil's biggest benefit in 2014, as well as their biggest downfall - they don't necessarily have the players to rescue them when playing against the world's best teams, but they function very well as a unit, specifically in attack. I think they might surprise a few people but they are a long way from looking like world champions.

But as for Oscar, I absolutely adore him. His stamina is incredible, his tenacity is much overlooked and his creative vision is just jizz-worthy. Probably my favourite signing of the Abramovich era. He could be our midfield lynch-pin for the next 8/10/12 years.