Daniel Sturridge

[manpe 10,861]

That's because the forward pushes the defence with his movement, and Lampard comes into the box in the empty space, that's where most of his goals come from, he's worked with this team for ages aswell, he knows the average routines, as for a new striker wouldn't as much. Van Persie's goals have been from simple squares, most of them, does Torres ever get a simple square?, very rarely, Sturridge has had plenty of chances but he's took a shot instead, where as Walcott and Gervinho constantly just pass it to Persie. No wonder the prick is top scorer, but he's still world class no doubt, however he wouldn't be far from Torres in our team i'm telling you now, because just tell me this, if Van Persie would be miles ahead of Torres, where are the goals going to come from?, his movement?, Torres makes some good movement when he's upfront but no one passes the fucking ball to him.

The goals would come from (accurate) shooting

[Kojo 4,676]

They are acting like Torres has not had chances, his chance conversion rate is one of the lowest in the country. He has Mata who is one of the highest assist makers in the league.

It's evident he gets a pass with his back to goal, infact the only 3 through balls he's had this season what i can remember, are the two against Man U and one against Swansea, now he scored two and missed a sitter (one he would never do if he was on form), besides that he never gets one, he could of scored 2 early goals in the Arsenal game, but no one squared the ball to him, he has his reasons to be pissed off, but he does take the piss sometimes, taking about 20 touches when your 3 yards out of goal...

[Kojo 4,676]

The goals would come from (accurate) shooting

And how many times whould he get to do that (accurate) shooting?, and would he be on form?, or would he be pissed off with the little chances he gets? and then that wont help him in the goal scoring business. Persie wont get that many chances, and if you're going to say when he has the ball and outside of the box don't bother, how many goals has persie scored outside the box this season?, the only one i can remember was the free kick against Sunderland.

[Tomo 21,733]

The fact last season Kalou managed to score goals and the fact this time that Danny scores lots, Lampard (from midfield despite having a below par season) scores goals show that there is a lot more to Torres goal drought than the admittedly shite service to him.

[Badboy 1,526]

The fact last season Kalou managed to score goals and the fact this time that Danny scores lots, Lampard (from midfield despite having a below par season) scores goals show that there is a lot more to Torres goal drought than the admittedly shite service to him.

Ramires is bloody chippin in too.

[Kojo 4,676]

The fact last season Kalou managed to score goals and the fact this time that Danny scores lots, Lampard (from midfield despite having a below par season) scores goals show that there is a lot more to Torres goal drought than the admittedly shite service to him.

The forward helps all the time for other attackers. You watch most of the goals. Sturridge's typical goal this season for me has been when the ball was squared from the left and Sturridge has kicked it in coming in from the right, Torres hasn't really had the chance, he's marked already, and that's helping the man on the right get in. If Sturridge was a centre forward he wouldn't of had 9 goals this season, he would of had about 5 or 4. And don't bring up Kalou, i don't think anyone knows how he gets his jammy fucking goals, it's just Salomon Kalou, enough said.

[manpe 10,861]

The fact last season Kalou managed to score goals and the fact this time that Danny scores lots, Lampard (from midfield despite having a below par season) scores goals show that there is a lot more to Torres goal drought than the admittedly shite service to him.

exactly.. torres's depression and the lack of creativity contribute to that. MAYBE he would change if he'd get 10 chances per game, but that's not going to happen with this team and I believe he was brought in to finish the 1 or 2 chances he gets per game. he doesn't do that. that's not the Torres the world knows, because in Liverpool he was known as the man who could be a shadow for 89 minutes and then pop up and score one chance.

this is derailing Danny's thread though. The main question is should Danny be playing ahead of Torres in CF position or not? Imo he should, but that's not a possibility because our right wing is in a bad situation atm without him. AVB even showed it once against Blackburn I think, he snubbed Torres and Drogba, but our right wing was so flat.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Sloth makes very good points imo.

And how many times whould he get to do that (accurate) shooting?, and would he be on form?, or would he be pissed off with the little chances he gets? and then that wont help him in the goal scoring business. Persie wont get that many chances, and if you're going to say when he has the ball and outside of the box don't bother, how many goals has persie scored outside the box this season?, the only one i can remember was the free kick against Sunderland.

Van Persie probably has the most tap-ins in the league this season, the easy chances he will get once in every 3-4 games at Chelsea lol.

[Tomo 21,733]

And don't bring up Kalou, i don't think anyone knows how he gets his jammy fucking goals, it's just Salomon Kalou, enough said.

Exactly GOALS, something he for all his other admittedly numerous fault's get and Torres doesn't.

[Kojo 4,676]

Exactly GOALS, something he for all his other admittedly numerous fault's get and Torres doesn't.

It's pointless bringing them up, that's my point, no one gets goals like Kalou does, it's just Salomon Kalou, you can't really compare. You get so many different players that are good at somethings and not so good, i think Darren Bent has a gift in movement and one of the best at it in the league, but when it comes to finishing, he's average at premier league rate, he will put them away if he's on form though.

Torres was world class, because he had both, deadly finishing good movement, at the moment he can't put goals away, now he makes some good runs, doesn't get a pass, gets pissed off then doesn't expect another chance gets one but wasn't ready... yeah he is a pisstake and should sort himself out because it's getting pathetic, but you can't say Van Persie or Falcao would be loads better because they wouldn't, and it's impossible becaues of the amount of chances you get, infact you don't even get enough chances to even get the amount of goals, i don't think theres anything wrong with Torres's movement, you hold a good point about his pace i agree with you on that but it isn't a main factor and shouldn't stop him getting a lot of goals in a good team what can assist him. But like Manpe said we are getting very off topic.

[Tomo 21,733]

The point im trying to make is Kalou does get the goals and he is a better option than some one who doesn't.

If the chance against Norwich fell to Kalou and not Nando, its more than likely we would have been talking about a hard fought 3 points instead of 2 dropped.

[Kojo 4,676]

The point im trying to make is Kalou does get the goals and he is a better option than some one who doesn't.

If the chance against Norwich fell to Kalou and not Nando, its more than likely we would have been talking about a hard fought 3 points instead of 2 dropped.

Being a striker isn't just about goals, it's about team play, much more than goals in my opinion. Luis Suarez will tell you that himself, but don't listen if he tries to racially abuse you or kick you in the gut. Anyway Torres does his best to stretch defenders, he's also got a handfull of assists to be proud of, his link up play and passing has been quality, you put Kalou up front, he wont be able to do that, Kalou's technical ability is fucking awful, to be honest putting Kalou right wing does nothing besides get a few goals now and then, because he can't do anything else rather than just hang around in the box, you put Kalou up front you're playing with 10 men, actually no you're not you're playing with 10 men and a cabbage, and that cabbage does like to lose the ball all the bastard time.

Torres can be a good option to pass to because he can kick something out, and you know what you maybe right, maybe Kalou will score more goals than Torres, but not if you put him upfront, the team will struggle, because he wont be there to stretch the defence, he wont be there to help with link up play, he wont be there when you need something to happen for example, a cross if he's roaming down the flank, or a pass if he's hanging out the box, at least Torres can put in a good cross or a pass. Drogba however is even better at it, even now, he can work with the team but he doesn't want too, you can see his hearts not in it. Torres tries more than Drogba believe it or not, just that Drogba is better at working with our team, because he can play with his back to goal and he has had experience of working with our team.

[magicrico 175]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4130026/Chelsea-crisis-Daniel-Sturridge-quit-fear.html

looks like danny ain't happy...can see his point of not being tried up top instead of flop factory torres

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

http://www.thesun.co...-quit-fear.html

looks like danny ain't happy...can see his point of not being tried up top instead of flop factory torres

Okay,we all know that Torres has been trying really hard and wants to score but just can't manage to score.Now its time we give Danny a chance to play center forward and Kalou to at least start as a right winger because IMO he will be better than Torres as a right winger.We've been really patient with Torres and its just not going to happen,we are fans of Chelsea football club and must hope for the best of the club first and then our players.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Let's hope it's just another stupid tabloid story.

[ja1 1,166]

The Sun LOL

[Kojo 4,676]

Been a lot of papers saying it, can't see Sturridge here next season if i'm truthfully honest, he will also leave because we wont be in Champions League, wish he wasn't such a twat sometimes and just get on with it, i like a bit of ego from a player sometimes shows how confident they are but you must get on with it.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

If danny doesn't want to stay with the team if we don't reach CL next season he should fuck off even if we do finish in 4th place!

Please excuse my attitude, but this kind egoistic mentality is unacceptable, imo, from a player who is hardly established in english football. To think that Del Piero stayed with Juve when they got relegated to the second division...