Eden Hazard

[Oscar 441]

Neymar is leading the attack line of Brazil and has more goals than Pele when both at age 22. I'd say Neymar is better than Hazard at everything besides link up play and dribbling.

Definitely link up play.

Dribbling depends. Neymar has amazing speed and quickness, so he always tries to go pass people, but his dribbling is really good. However, hazard is exceptional.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Neymar is leading the attack line of Brazil and has more goals than Pele when both at age 22. I'd say Neymar is better than Hazard at everything besides link up play and dribbling.

Neymar passing ability is really good, but he's a selfish player at times, so, he either doesn't sees it well or doesn't pass it purposely.

Techincally, Neymar is better than hazard as well.

Sorry chaps, fully disagree. I've never rated Neymar higher than Hazard, and I've extensively followed both since their Santos and Lille days.

It's very close but IMO if you take away both of their goal scoring traits, Hazard would easily remain as the better player. He has greater playmaking ability, better dribbler, physically he's better as well, Neymar can only dream about having Hazard's balance.

I really don't care about Neymar's stats for his country either.

[Oscar 441]

Sorry chaps, fully disagree. I've never rated Neymar higher than Hazard, and I've extensively followed both since their Santos and Lille days.

It's very close but IMO if you take away both of their goal scoring traits, Hazard would easily remain as the better player. He has greater playmaking ability, better dribbler, physically he's better as well.

I really don't care about Neymar's stats for his country either.

Hazard is stronger, because he's stocky.

Neymar on the otherhand is faster, quicker and has better stamina.

Neymar has the ability to be a really good playmaker, but I think at a young age he was developed to be the goal scoring threat he is now, so, the mentality isn't there for neymar which was evident during brazil's world cup run.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Hazard is stronger, because he's stocky.

Neymar on the otherhand is faster, quicker and has better stamina.

Neymar has the ability to be a really good playmaker, but I think at a young age he was developed to be the goal scoring threat he is now, so, the mentality isn't there for neymar which was evident during brazil's world cup run.

Similarly I can say Hazard probably has the ability to be a more clinical goal scorer but he doesn't have the mentality for it...

[cármenes 21]

Sorry chaps, fully disagree. I've never rated Neymar higher than Hazard, and I've extensively followed both since their Santos and Lille days.

It's very close but IMO if you take away both of their goal scoring traits, Hazard would easily remain as the better player. He has greater playmaking ability, better dribbler, physically he's better as well, Neymar can only dream about having Hazard's balance.

I really don't care about Neymar's stats for his country either.

How is Hazard the better playmaker? Over the past two seasons, Neymar has 29 assists and Hazard has 21.

Neymar was one of the stars at the World Cup, he's flourishing for Brazil, shines on international stage and has been amazing for Barcelona this season scoring in almost every important game.

He also bulked up recently and is not the pushover he used to be.

[DYC. 7,542]

Hazard is stronger, because he's stocky.

Neymar on the otherhand is faster, quicker and has better stamina.

Neymar has the ability to be a really good playmaker, but I think at a young age he was developed to be the goal scoring threat he is now, so, the mentality isn't there for neymar which was evident during brazil's world cup run.

What kind of argument is that. With that kind of reasoning, every player can be different, depending on their 'mentality'. You either have it or you don't. Everybody has their own strengths. It's the same with the stocky comment. Prime Drogba is stronger than someone like Lewandowski because he has a bigger built? Neymar is a lightweight and has decent balance at best. Hazard has great balance and knows how to use his body a lot better in terms of shielding.

Neymar has better stamina? Hazard is always fit, and plays everything. His work rate is also much better. He is indeed faster than Hazard, Neymar's speed on the ball is incredible.

Neymar and Hazard are both wonderful talents with their own strengths and weaknesses. Hazard is the better player overall for me but that's just my opinion. I do admire Neymar's mental strength at such a young age though. He's been dealing with huge pressure from a very young age, but it doesn't hurt him. He did some wonderful things for Santos, and carries his country.

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

How is Hazard the better playmaker? Over the past two seasons, Neymar has 29 assists and Hazard has 21.

Neymar was one of the stars at the World Cup, he's flourishing for Brazil, shines on international stage and has been amazing for Barcelona this season scoring in almost every important game.

He also bulked up recently and is not the pushover he used to be.

because Hazard had to service Torres. Neymar has Messi, offcourse you will have more assists.

Another poster who only looks at the number of the stats without actually trying to interpret them, great

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

Neymar passing ability is really good, but he's a selfish player at times, so, he either doesn't sees it well or doesn't pass it purposely.

Techincally, Neymar is better than hazard as well.

So what you are saying is that his passing is good if he decides to pass.....

Well, if we are going to go in that direction, Torres is a very good goalscorer, if he decides not to screw up his shots

[sutro 1,026]

How is Hazard the better playmaker? Over the past two seasons, Neymar has 29 assists and Hazard has 21.

Neymar was one of the stars at the World Cup, he's flourishing for Brazil, shines on international stage and has been amazing for Barcelona this season scoring in almost every important game.

He also bulked up recently and is not the pushover he used to be.

you have to take in consideration who they play together with to get those assists tough,neymar got worldclass players like Messi and Suarez that can easely finish of those assists while Hazard had torres,Oscar etc.

[Oscar 441]

So what you are saying is that his passing is good if he decides to pass.....

Well, if we are going to go in that direction, Torres is a very good goalscorer, if he decides not to screw it up his shots

If you watch players, you can tell their technical ability and neymar has that in terms of passing. However, like Robben, he is a very selfish player more often than not.

[The Skipper 20,609]

How is Hazard the better playmaker? Over the past two seasons, Neymar has 29 assists and Hazard has 21.

Neymar was one of the stars at the World Cup, he's flourishing for Brazil, shines on international stage and has been amazing for Barcelona this season scoring in almost every important game.

He also bulked up recently and is not the pushover he used to be.

First and foremost, your stats are wrong. Neymar has only had 15 assists over the last two seasons with Barcelona, whilst Eden had 19 over the last two season with Chelsea; so you using your 'assist stats' only argument is completely debunked (it was very weak to begin with IMO). There's no way you're telling me that Hazard is less of a playmaker than Neymar, it's not even arguable IMO. If you wanted a creator in your team you wouldn't pick Neymar over Hazard. Neymar is a goal scorer. Hazard is a creator. Hazard creates a lot more than Neymar, not even arguable. You don't even need stats to prove that, just watch both play - but since you love your stats it seems, I'll just quickly look at a few. Neymar is the least creative Barcelona forward this season, averaging 1.3 key passes per game in La Liga, compared to Messi and Suarez who average 2.5 and 2.2 respectively. Hazard on the other hand averages 2.9 key passes per game in the PL.

It really isn't arguable who's the better creator, sorry. (This is without going into the fact that Hazard had to feed the likes of Torres, whilst Neymar plays with Messi and now Suarez).

Neymar is very impressive for his country but international football doesn't mean much to me at all when comparing players so sorry.

Yeah, sure, Neymar has bulked up a bit this season but he isn't touching Hazard physically. Neymar might be a bit faster over the lateral but Hazard is definitely more explosive, more imposing physically and as I said before, Neymar can only dream of the balance Hazard has.

Can you imagine Neymar trying to track back and putting in a defensive shift like Hazard does? Nope, me neither.

Sorry, for me Hazard is the better player, and you're not going to convince me otherwise because I've watched a lot of Neymar so I know exactly what he's about.

[Oscar 441]

because Hazard had to service Torres. Neymar has Messi, offcourse you will have more assists.

Another poster who only looks at the number of the stats without actually trying to interpret them, great

Mata had service to Torres as well.

[Hkibou 622]

Mata had service to Torres as well.

Mata was in charge of all free-kicks and corners, Hazard is not.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Neymar is a fantastic goalscorer thats why.

Yeah ok, but Ronaldo is easily one of the most complete goalscorers of all time: solo goals, being on the right spot at the right time, powerful shots outside of the box, even headers. And he still beats him. Maybe the average level of football skill went down or something. I see no other explanation.

Ah well, good for him.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

The most baffling thing in these discussion how often one wants to belittle the other player ability.

Example from this discussion - someone says "Hazard has a very good dribbling but Neymar's is also very good. Ok maybe Hazard is better here"

For fuck suck, the best beat of Hazard play is sooo diminished here. Eden Hazard has immaculate dribbling, absolutely the best in the world alongside Messi. He's constantly a beast in taking on people, no matter what player he faces, if it's a rain, sun, small pitch, large pitch, home, away or when he's designated to be the only attacking threat in the team, he is always there with his ridiculously consistent dribbling.

Don't deflate that, please !

[FabHazard 655]

Neymar is always at the end of attack in barcelona with messi and suarez creating chances for him..that is why he is scoring more..usual attack of barcelona this season is messi cutting inside from the right side and neymar moving to centre from left with fullbacks providing width..the only thing i rate neymar more than hazard is finishing...everything else hazard is a better player whether it is in terms of close control,balance,agility,dribbling,playmaking and creativity..I will just laugh at the statement that neymar is a better technical player than hazard..

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

If you watch players, you can tell their technical ability and neymar has that in terms of passing. However, like Robben, he is a very selfish player more often than not.

Yes, but then you are talking about technical abilty. The act of making a pass is not the same as having good passing ability because that includes passing when you should and seeing a good pass when there is an opportunity to do so. And you yourself claimed Neymar is guilty off not doing these things, so to use his passing as an argument to why he is a good player is simply not right according to your own statements.

It would for example be the same if i said Mikel is a good passer because he can complete a lot of passes each game while in reality he isn't because he slows everything down by passing sideways and backwards

[Oscar 441]

Yes, but then you are talking about technical abilty. The act of making a pass is not the same as having good passing ability because that includes passing when you should and seeing a good pass when there is an opportunity to do so. And you yourself claimed Neymar is guilty off not doing these things, so to use his passing as an argument to why he is a good player is simply not right according to your own statements.

It would for example be the same if i said Mikel is a good passer because he can complete a lot of passes each game while in reality he isn't because he slows everything down by passing sideways and backwards

It's different. Most players can't make the pass, Neymar can. Neymar like Robben both have superior passing abilities, yet both are selfish "creators."

Mikel is not. He passes backwards, therefore has a high passing completion.

[cármenes 21]

First and foremost, your stats are wrong. Neymar has only had 15 assists over the last two seasons with Barcelona, whilst Eden had 19 over the last two season with Chelsea; so you using your 'assist stats' only argument is completely debunked (it was very weak to begin with IMO). There's no way you're telling me that Hazard is less of a playmaker than Neymar, it's not even arguable IMO. If you wanted a creator in your team you wouldn't pick Neymar over Hazard. Neymar is a goal scorer. Hazard is a creator. Hazard creates a lot more than Neymar, not even arguable. You don't even need stats to prove that, just watch both play - but since you love your stats it seems, I'll just quickly look at a few. Neymar is the least creative Barcelona forward this season, averaging 1.3 key passes per game in La Liga, compared to Messi and Suarez who average 2.5 and 2.2 respectively. Hazard on the other hand averages 2.9 key passes per game in the PL.

It really isn't arguable who's the better creator, sorry. (This is without going into the fact that Hazard had to feed the likes of Torres, whilst Neymar plays with Messi and now Suarez).

Neymar is very impressive for his country but international football doesn't mean much to me at all when comparing players so sorry.

Yeah, sure, Neymar has bulked up a bit this season but he isn't touching Hazard physically. Neymar might be a bit faster over the lateral but Hazard is definitely more explosive, more imposing physically and as I said before, Neymar can only dream of the balance Hazard has.

Can you imagine Neymar trying to track back and putting in a defensive shift like Hazard does? Nope, me neither.

Sorry, for me Hazard is the better player, and you're not going to convince me otherwise because I've watched a lot of Neymar so I know exactly what he's about.

Those stats were from all comps and I don't quite understand why are you ignoring Neymar's impact in international football? Maybe because he's light years ahead of Hazard in that aspect? About putting in a defensive shift- let's admit that Neymar is more of a forward and Hazard is more of a midfielder. It's not like Neymar doesn't support his fullback at all though. When on form, Neymar is absolutely running riot and is very tough to contain with his unpredictability.

In all honesty, I think Hazard would be a better fit for Barcelona but Neymar is clearly the better player overall, at the club level as well as the international level.

[iseah100 5,612]

First and foremost, your stats are wrong. Neymar has only had 15 assists over the last two seasons with Barcelona, whilst Eden had 19 over the last two season with Chelsea; so you using your 'assist stats' only argument is completely debunked (it was very weak to begin with IMO). There's no way you're telling me that Hazard is less of a playmaker than Neymar, it's not even arguable IMO. If you wanted a creator in your team you wouldn't pick Neymar over Hazard. Neymar is a goal scorer. Hazard is a creator. Hazard creates a lot more than Neymar, not even arguable. You don't even need stats to prove that, just watch both play - but since you love your stats it seems, I'll just quickly look at a few. Neymar is the least creative Barcelona forward this season, averaging 1.3 key passes per game in La Liga, compared to Messi and Suarez who average 2.5 and 2.2 respectively. Hazard on the other hand averages 2.9 key passes per game in the PL.

It really isn't arguable who's the better creator, sorry. (This is without going into the fact that Hazard had to feed the likes of Torres, whilst Neymar plays with Messi and now Suarez).

Neymar is very impressive for his country but international football doesn't mean much to me at all when comparing players so sorry.

Yeah, sure, Neymar has bulked up a bit this season but he isn't touching Hazard physically. Neymar might be a bit faster over the lateral but Hazard is definitely more explosive, more imposing physically and as I said before, Neymar can only dream of the balance Hazard has.

Can you imagine Neymar trying to track back and putting in a defensive shift like Hazard does? Nope, me neither.

Sorry, for me Hazard is the better player, and you're not going to convince me otherwise because I've watched a lot of Neymar so I know exactly what he's about.

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