🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[Jase 43,479]

13 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

And what makes you think our board will get proper replacements?

Well, I never said the process was going to be a smooth one...

IF it's going to take few years to 'rebuild' ourselves for the better, then it might be a fun ride to experience...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Just now, Jason said:

Well, I never said the process was going to be smooth one...

IF it's going to take few years to 'rebuild' ourselves for the better, then it might be fun ride to experience...

Agree but I would prefer we get someone before Hazard leaves, so the transition will be easier. Having no "star" player will push us at least one place further down. 

We are not Eden Fc and will continue to play at top level after he leaves, but there is no denying he is by far our best player and brings 1/3rd of points per season easily. 

If we want to win any title or even finish top 4 anytime soon, he has to stay. He is simply that important even if people dont see it. What makes us serioud title contender is another player like Hazard. Costa was that in some spells, but now we dont have anyone else. Solution to a better team will be to bring more Hazard level players, not selling him to buy 2 promising ones. 

And in the end we dont need to sell Eden to generate money for another star player either. There is enough cash to spend already and plenty of deadwood to get rid of if we need more money.

That said, idealy I would understand Hazard sale, establishing CHO in his role and strenghten other areas too, a process that would take few years like you said, but it would pay off. However the club is a mess at the top and I dont believe they can pull off something like that. They lack knowledge, trust and belief in our youth to do it. At best we would throw all cash at couple players and pray sarri makes them work or fire him if he doesnt. Rinse and repeat.

[Vesper 30,172]

4 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Agree but I would prefer we get someone before Hazard leaves, so the transition will be easier. Having no "star" player will push us at least one place further down. 

We are not Eden Fc and will continue to play at top level after he leaves, but there is no denying he is by far our best player and brings 1/3rd of points per season easily. 

If we want to win any title or even finish top 4 anytime soon, he has to stay. He is simply that important even if people dont see it. What makes us serioud title contender is another player like Hazard. Costa was that in some spells, but now we dont have anyone else. Solution to a better team will be to bring more Hazard level players, not selling him to buy 2 promising ones. 

And in the end we dont need to sell Eden to generate money for another star player either. There is enough cash to spend already and plenty of deadwood to get rid of if we need more money.

That said, idealy I would understand Hazard sale, establishing CHO in his role and strenghten other areas too, a process that would take few years like you said, but it would pay off. However the club is a mess at the top and I dont believe they can pull off something like that. They lack knowledge, trust and belief in our youth to do it. At best we would throw all cash at couple players and pray sarri makes them work or fire him if he doesnt. Rinse and repeat.

Eden is going to leave, I am 90% sure

We also are going to be lucky to get half what he is worth, or even nothing, if he leaves on a free in 17 months.

Nothing good is going to happen in terms of becoming a perennial CL again until the club is sold.

Abramovich is a targeted man.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/07/romanabramovich-list-six-russian-oligarchs-targeted-uk-intelligence/

We may likely get seized if he doesn't sell. Not having a laugh in the slightest. The US/UK/NATO alliance is going to way asymmetrically with Putin and his cronies, and Roman is a huge target. Wait till the Trump shit really starts to blow up and we undergo a hard Brexit (which is going to make the US a huge key to trade, etc).

I expect nothing truly good to happen in January and we will eventually get well and truly fucked over Eden.

I am just going to hope we can finish 3rd or 4th in EPL and have a true go at winning the EL.

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I've no trouble with Eden playing CF regularly --maybe not every single match, but it can work.

I don't think Eden will hit the target as well as Aguero, but I just realized that they are the same size: 5'8" with huge quadriceps. 

Getting another CF soon will do us good, but I think getting Willian and Alonso out of our lineup will be best moves of all.

I hope Eden stays.

[whats happening 1,615]

 

i guess he could be better to satisfy all the chelsea fans needs.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Can we stop dissing Hazard at least while he's still playing here? 

IMO, the most important player for us this season. Yes, more than Kante.

[Unionjack 7,531]

54 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Can we stop dissing Hazard at least while he's still playing here? 

IMO, the most important player for us this season. Yes, more than Kante.

I would agree bud but where does he go on the games where he doesn't show up?

And its not only this season but every one since hes been with us.

Theres not much better sights thab eden in full flow but he will never be in that top rank he covets till he can do it more often.

Sorry but we should have thought about this happening 2 years ago and planned for it.

Now we have no working striker, 5 players over 30 and several players not nearly reaching their potential.

Eden is only a part of our current problem.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

4 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

I would agree bud but where does he go on the games where he doesn't show up?

And its not only this season but every one since hes been with us.

Theres not much better sights thab eden in full flow but he will never be in that top rank he covets till he can do it more often.

Sorry but we should have thought about this happening 2 years ago and planned for it.

Now we have no working striker, 5 players over 30 and several players not nearly reaching their potential.

Eden is only a part of our current problem.

 

Honestly don't know the answer to that...but you have to agree that we're screwed 9 times out of 10 whenever that happens, at least based on what we've seen. That's why I made that claim.

I pretty much agree with the rest of your post.

Also, nice to see you back UJ. Love your new sig.

[Unionjack 7,531]

12 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Also, nice to see you back UJ. Love your new sig.

Cheers buddy. Good to see you too mush!

Seen me new stuff I did?

[Unionjack 7,531]

Eden Hazard was the talk of the Brighton dressing room after defeat to Chelsea, says Leon Balogun

Brighton's players were so impressed with Eden Hazard's performance against them on Sunday that the squad were left admiring the "unbelievable" forward after their 2-1 loss to Chelsea at the Amex Stadium.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea/eden-hazard-was-the-talk-of-the-brighton-dressing-room-after-defeat-to-chelsea-says-leon-balogun-a4019591.html

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Hazard was by far better than Morata or Giroud has been in the striker role for us this season. I don't just know whether he will be happy to play that role for us in the long run considering how frustrated he was by Alonso making poor passes and crosses to him.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

4 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

Hazard was by far better than Morata or Giroud has been in the striker role for us this season. I don't just know whether he will be happy to play that role for us in the long run considering how frustrated he was by Alonso making poor passes and crosses to him.

He doesn't need to be happy.  If the team is better off with him at CF, he should play there.  Also, I think he's gone, so keeping him happy doesn't really matter much anymore.  

[Warning_Hazard 156]

11 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

He doesn't need to be happy.  If the team is better off with him at CF, he should play there.  Also, I think he's gone, so keeping him happy doesn't really matter much anymore.  

yay and nay

hazza seems to be a responsible guy, if we keep him happy he may stay not worth having egg on our faces, Same time he ain't signing so...

Dont get why we/he doesnt extend so we get a good price. if real want him theyll pay, instead they are angling for a low ball price..

If i was him id shrug, sign extension and tell real to show me how much.

He wants to win CL

Could end up going cheap, having an average time and end up benched.

 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

1 hour ago, Warning_Hazard said:

yay and nay

hazza seems to be a responsible guy, if we keep him happy he may stay not worth having egg on our faces, Same time he ain't signing so...

Dont get why we/he doesnt extend so we get a good price. if real want him theyll pay, instead they are angling for a low ball price..

If i was him id shrug, sign extension and tell real to show me how much.

He wants to win CL

Could end up going cheap, having an average time and end up benched.

 

I'm not saying we actively try to piss him off.  But (and this goes for everyone) winning is the most important thing.  If playing in goal was the best for the team, then he needs to get himself some gloves.  Right now, he, Pedro, and Willian are our 3 best forwards.  Pedro and Willian work harder defensively, so Hazard at CF with the others on either wing is our team's best line-up.  

We can get in to the whole, "why does he want to go to Madrid when they haven't really shown much interest?" thing is a different discussion.  I don't disagree with you:  Sign a new deal, put a release clause in it that shows your'e one of the 3 best players in the world, and if Madrid think you are, then off you go.  But, again, that's a different story.

[Tomo 21,751]

14 hours ago, whats happening said:

 

i guess he could be better to satisfy all the chelsea fans needs.

I swear only we could defend our best player and have fellow supporters accusing us of putting him before the club.

[Vybzkartel 284]

48 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I swear only we could defend our best player and have fellow supporters accusing us of putting him before the club.

I think most fans have been supporting Hazard he just pushed a few buttons last week with the Madrid talk otherwise everyone loves Eden. 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Him talking about Madrid is like saying water is wet.

If he stays or goes i'm not bothered either way.

[Warning_Hazard 156]

5 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I'm not saying we actively try to piss him off.  But (and this goes for everyone) winning is the most important thing.  If playing in goal was the best for the team, then he needs to get himself some gloves.  Right now, he, Pedro, and Willian are our 3 best forwards.  Pedro and Willian work harder defensively, so Hazard at CF with the others on either wing is our team's best line-up.  

We can get in to the whole, "why does he want to go to Madrid when they haven't really shown much interest?" thing is a different discussion.  I don't disagree with you:  Sign a new deal, put a release clause in it that shows your'e one of the 3 best players in the world, and if Madrid think you are, then off you go.  But, again, that's a different story.

Yeah agreed. 

Fekin Real!

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Just wish he'll sign a new deal. I don't know how we'll be able to replace him, such a great player  

[kellzfresh 7,229]