Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Pizy said: The risk with him staying but not agreeing a new contract is that with a year left the likes of City and United will come sniffing around offering him the moon to join one of them on a free. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Its true. I forgot that madrid have been buying younger players recently. Madrid may not be willing to shell out big cash for Hazard by next year when he'll be 28. Hazard made a mistake declaring his love for only Madrid in my opinion. He could have easily gotten a transfer to Barcelona, his style of play is perfect for a team like them (and Sarrismo ) Would be great if he does stay but at the same time, it would be like a marriage made in convenience. Not saying his commitment level would drop but him staying because he couldn't get his dream move to Real feels somewhat wrong and like he's forced to settle for second best, after spending years eyeing a move to there. It's like having a girlfriend/boyfriend who's forced to remain with you because she/he couldn't find a better partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jason said: Would be great if he does stay but at the same time, it would be like a marriage made in convenience. Not saying his commitment level would drop but him staying because he couldn't get his dream move to Real feels somewhat wrong and like he's forced to settle for second best, after spending years eyeing a move to there. It's like having a girlfriend/boyfriend who's forced to remain with you because she/he couldn't find a better partner. Hardly the same thing, said girlfriend/boyfriend could decide to be single, it makes no financial sense for footballers to pull a move like that. There's been many players in the past that would have died for the shirt but we would have happily thrown under a bus for an upgrade (Cahill), we can't moan when it happens in reverse!!! Also Hazard played for months with a hip injury, i doubt his commitment would wane even if we are his second best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jason said: Would be great if he does stay but at the same time, it would be like a marriage made in convenience. Not saying his commitment level would drop but him staying because he couldn't get his dream move to Real feels somewhat wrong and like he's forced to settle for second best, after spending years eyeing a move to there. It's like having a girlfriend/boyfriend who's forced to remain with you because she/he couldn't find a better partner. I would keep hazard even if he still wants to move out. A poor form Hazard is better than a lot of players. We cant get any better player than him honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jason said: Would be great if he does stay but at the same time, it would be like a marriage made in convenience. Not saying his commitment level would drop but him staying because he couldn't get his dream move to Real feels somewhat wrong and like he's forced to settle for second best, after spending years eyeing a move to there. It's like having a girlfriend/boyfriend who's forced to remain with you because she/he couldn't find a better partner. I've not read any quotes or interviews from ZZ about the situation have you? Would love to hear his thought on why Perez seems to now have gone back on the whole reason he supposedly left RM/ so just waiting to hear what hes got to say. I think on one hand its a shame we didn't sell him. Perfect time with a new system,manager, getting some new young faces that can grow,gell and be together for a few years. But that would have been easier a few weeks ago so we could shop around for a LW Rob Green. Hes going to be £50mill next summer. 2 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: would keep hazard even if he still wants to move out. A poor form Hazard is better than a lot of players. We cant get any better player than him honestly. Come on. Edens the bollox WHEN hes on form we all know that but when the pouting,chin dragging,hands on hips Eden comes out its pointless him being on the pitch. I'd have sold him if we had more transfer time. But then if we had sold all of our deadwood we wouldn't need to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tomo said: Hardly the same thing, said girlfriend/boyfriend could decide to be single, it makes no financial sense for footballers to pull a move like that. There's been many players in the past that would have died for the shirt but we would have happily thrown under a bus for an upgrade (Cahill), we can't moan when it happens in reverse!!! Also Hazard played for months with a hip injury, i doubt his commitment would wane even if we are his second best. How is it not the same or similar for that matter? He has been talking about wanting to go to Madrid for years and if/when that move does't happen, he'll like stay and "forced" to settle for second best. Would be great for us and all but it just wouldn't feel fight. It would be a blot in the copybook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: How is it not the same or similar for that matter? He has been talking about wanting to go to Madrid for years and if/when that move does't happen, he'll like stay and "forced" to settle for second best. Would be great for us and all but it just wouldn't feel fight. It would be a blot in the copybook. Because most people would rather be single than with someone they don't love. If Hazard staying doesn't feel right for us, would Cahill feel the same about being here? knowing fans would happily upgrade on him. If Hazard does the business on the pitch he could be a secret Spurs fan for all i care, players being "one of our own" is nothing more than a nice bonus, especially in the modern day. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tomo said: Because most people would rather be single than with someone they don't love. If Hazard staying doesn't feel right for us, would Cahill feel the same about being here? knowing fans would happily upgrade on him. If Hazard does the business on the pitch he could be a secret Spurs fan for all i care, players being "one of our own" is nothing more than a nice bonus, especially in the modern day. Look, I already said I doubt Hazard's commitment will drop if he does stay and that's not even the point. I don't even know why you're comparing Hazard's situation with Cahill. Put the analogy earlier aside for a second, how is Hazard would be "forced" to stay if he can't get his Madrid move and us replacing Cahill with someone better even the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Look, I already said I doubt Hazard's commitment will drop if he does stay and that's not even the point. I don't even know why you're comparing Hazard's situation with Cahill. Put the analogy earlier aside for a second, how is Hazard would be "forced" to stay if he can't get his Madrid move and us replacing Cahill with someone better even the same? The point is loyalties work both ways. We are the best Cahill's ever going to get and it's likely Hazard is the best (in his position) we are going to get for the foreseeable future at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: The point is loyalties work both ways. We are the best Cahill's ever going to get and it's likely Hazard is the best (in his position) we are going to get for the foreseeable future at least. Not sure how saying "it doesn't feel right if Hazard stays only because he couldn't get his Madrid move" suddenly becomes all about loyalty. You read too much into the analogy, Tomo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Â Daily Mail also reporting the same thing... Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Excellent move it would be, i think too much generally is made of the armband. Because in every locker room everyone knows who the leaders are and they don't need an armband to direct them to. In this case it would be a great motivational tool, to make Eden take ownership of the team. Challenge Hazard to take his performances even further and make him feel responsible for the team performances and result. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Taking the captaincy, signing that new contract and committing to spending the prime years of his career at the club could well end up making Hazard a club legend right up there with the likes of Drogba, Lampard, JT etc. At the moment he's not even close to that status tho. Even if the likelihood of winning trophies is bigger at Real Madrid, he'd still be just one of the regular guys there but at Chelsea he can be a real club icon. If the man has any affection to the club that should at the very least make him consider it. Johnnyeye, Vesper, FabHazard and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 So happy his going to get the arm band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 azpilicueta robbed Sir Mikel OBE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Jype said: At the moment he's close to that status tho. Corrected that for you to my opinion mate 😉 In 30 years Hazard will always be mentioned besides Frank, Didier and Jt imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Corrected that for you to my opinion mate 😉 In 30 years Hazard will always be mentioned besides Frank, Didier and Jt imo IMHO one of our biggest mistakes was losing Mata. He would have been one of our all time bests if it wasn't for Mou. He started as he meant to go on. sLOVEnian Blue and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mccg 1,528 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: IMHO one of our biggest mistakes was losing Mata. He would have been one of our all time bests if it wasn't for Mou. He started as he meant to go on. Yeah some of the attacking footie we played with him hazard and co was a real pleasure and joy to behold ,the way we should be playing Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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