Styles 9,790 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, BlueLion. said: It appears more and more of you have bought into the Hazard Myth. It looks like you're happy with little 5-minute cameos here and there. He is not world class, in my eyes. I'd go as far as saying he was our worst attacking player yesterday. The amount of times he lost possession was hilarious! People still trolling in 2018? Wow. Belgiannutt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, Styles said: People still trolling in 2018? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riquelme 4 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 With William and Pedro, I can understand him playing higher but for me it's clearly not what's the best for him or the team. William can drive with the ball into the space that players following Hazard leave and Pedro can attack space behind. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, Riquelme said: With William and Pedro, I can understand him playing higher but for me it's clearly not what's the best for him or the team. William can drive with the ball into the space that players following Hazard leave and Pedro can attack space behind.  Woah, didn't know prince William was so good in driving with the ball.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riquelme 4 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 But you understand my point of view, it's also why I would have wanted Luiz coming of the bench seeing how players from the back were doing nothing positive with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget 126 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This man is insane we need to get him (and Tibo) to sign a contract to stay. Also need to get some quality to assist Eden in the summer. Prioritise a top RW and at least 1 quality full back. Id rather 2 top end pricey summer transfers than 6 average squad players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Wait here is a theory....Sack Conte, get Zidane keep Hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,206 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Special Juan said: Wait here is a theory....Sack Conte, get Zidane keep Hazard Do you think Zidane is actually a decent manager? Also if the board didn't get the players he wants he would headbut Marina into oblivian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,090 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, DDA said: Do you think Zidane is actually a decent manager? Also if the board didn't get the players he wants he would headbut Marina into oblivian. Haha. Not like Zidane is picking players to sign at Real, hes obviously a yes man. He'd probably fit here alright in that regard. But we need somebody willing to demand a shake up of the club from top to bottom if Conte goes in the summer (ideally he would be the man to do it and has probably tried to get more power in that regard). Only way to make progress is to implement changes at the top, not get rid of Roman before somebody thinks that what I mean but he gets rid of the deadwood like Maria, unless she does an Emenalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, BlueLion. said: It appears more and more of you have bought into the Hazard Myth. It looks like you're happy with little 5-minute cameos here and there. He is not world class, in my eyes. Wrong thread, this is Hazard's page not Willian's Amblève. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, BlueLion. said: It appears more and more of you have bought into the Hazard Myth. It looks like you're happy with little 5-minute cameos here and there. He is not world class, in my eyes. I'd go as far as saying he was our worst attacking player yesterday. The amount of times he lost possession was hilarious!  Hilarious indeed. Haven 't laughed this hard since Mourinho got sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, BlueLion. said: It appears more and more of you have bought into the Hazard Myth. It looks like you're happy with little 5-minute cameos here and there. He is not world class, in my eyes. I'd go as far as saying he was our worst attacking player yesterday. The amount of times he lost possession was hilarious! Oh yes it's insane that he has managed to become our 13th all-time top scorer despite being so mediocre. 🙄 I can understand some unpopular opinions but yours is pushing it.   Blue Armour and Belgiannutt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Azpinator said: Oh yes it's insane that he has managed to become our 13th all-time top scorer despite being so mediocre. 🙄 I can understand some unpopular opinions but yours is pushing it.   Not to mention he was key in our last 2 PL titles. Blue Armour and Azpinator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, Azpinator said: Oh yes it's insane that he has managed to become our 13th all-time top scorer despite being so mediocre. 🙄 I can understand some unpopular opinions but yours is pushing it.   I never said he's mediocre. Another typical Chelsea fan who is blinded by the odd backheel. I said he isn't world class - there's a difference. Certainly not anywhere close to the levels of Ronaldo and Messi. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,206 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 hours ago, BlueLion. said: It appears more and more of you have bought into the Hazard Myth. It looks like you're happy with little 5-minute cameos here and there. He is not world class, in my eyes. I'd go as far as saying he was our worst attacking player yesterday. The amount of times he lost possession was hilarious! Even though Eden is easily our best player and I love the guy to peices... I have to agree with you here. He is World Class but the bias towards him on thsi forum is nothing short of sheer ignorance at times. Some actually believe he is the 3rd best attacking footballer in the World..... he isn't even close. BlueLion. and OneMoSalah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlueLion. said: I never said he's mediocre. Another typical Chelsea fan who is blinded by the odd backheel. I said he isn't world class - there's a difference. Certainly not anywhere close to the levels of Ronaldo and Messi. Oh you had me figured out! The term world-class is debatable, but still there are things to consider here. The main one is the fact he has arguably been our best player post-2012 with qualities almost every expert in the world of football has acknowledged. You saying he isn't world class might be the most judgemental remark I've ever read by a football fan, let alone a Chelsea fan. And you know, even Messi and Ronaldo have bad days. Your argument isn't convincing at all. Belgiannutt, Mufassir08 and Blue Armour 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted January 25, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted January 25, 2018 If Hazard played for Atletico, Dortmund or Monaco (ie, where there could be small hope we could still get him) there would be a 1,000 page spread of universal pleading for his signing. Beepu, Amblève., Mufassir08 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, BlueLion. said: I never said he's mediocre. Another typical Chelsea fan who is blinded by the odd backheel. I said he isn't world class - there's a difference. Certainly not anywhere close to the levels of Ronaldo and Messi. Noone's close to Messi or peak Ronaldo. At least the top 10 players in the world should be defined as world-class. Give me 9 attacking players who are better than Eden. You can't. On redcafe theres a poll going on "who is better, sanchez or Hazard" 60% pick Hazard and they just signed sanchez ffs Azpinator and 11Drogba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,090 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, BlueLion. said: I never said he's mediocre. Another typical Chelsea fan who is blinded by the odd backheel. I said he isn't world class - there's a difference. Certainly not anywhere close to the levels of Ronaldo and Messi. I wouldn't say hes not world class but I get what you mean, he doesn't have those goals and assists to put him up there with world class attacking players and quite frankly I don't think he ever will even hit over 20 a season in a league season. Which is why I think as a second striker he can do better. He is just too laid back, sure he will play excellent in some games and look at a level above everybody in the PL but the guys like Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo, Dybala... they are constantly striving to beat somebodies goal tallies or to beat their previous tallies. Ronaldo and Messi are superhuman in comparison to everyone else (well Messi is a different level to Ronaldo entirely for me but), I think somebody like Neymar or Dybala has more chance of winning the Ballon D'Or than Hazard, because they are driven to be the number 1 player in the world, Neymar left for PSG so he wasn't in Messi's shadow.. that says it all. Dybala is probably going to leave Juventus in the summer or next for a huge club and become a top 3 or top 5 player in the world. Defenders are also extremely underappreciated when it comes to these sort of things but different story for a different day.  Its frustrating because we all know how good Eden is and he clearly knows but he seems very comfortable to stay at the level hes on. Not that hes lazy or that etc but its just a minor flaw I think, hes confident but he isn't looking to surpass what hes done in football, sure it may sound like he should be more selfish yeah and it might hurt the team but Ronaldo and Messi have won these awards churning out these amazing numbers and consistency for years when their teams win massive titles or not. Like mentioned in other threads, on this forum and other social media platforms as well as the fanbase at games, there is a percentage who seem to believe than Eden cannot get any better because hes at Chelsea as opposed to what I think, that hes not as driven or ambitious as a Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo etc. He could become a top 3-5 attacking player in the world here, only he can do it though. Which is why I laugh every time I see "he needs to leave to play with players of a similar quality" but for me, the great players can make those around them look good. BlueLion. and robsblubot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,206 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Weckerz said: Noone's close to Messi or peak Ronaldo. At least the top 10 players in the world should be defined as world-class. Give me 9 attacking players who are better than Eden. You can't. On redcafe theres a poll going on "who is better, sanchez or Hazard" 60% pick Hazard and they just signed sanchez ffs There isn't much in it between Hazard and Sanchez for me. Hazard is in the top 10 players but i would place Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Neymar maybe even De Bryune (current form) in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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