Jase 43,479 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 What was Eden like last year? What was Mata like? With more responsibility you get drop off. Hazard, when he's at his best doesn't have to do the dirty work. Furthermore, what you were initially asking for is for another player to take the pressure off of him, I agree, but that player SHOULD be our striker.Hazard has more responsibility now than before but that still hasn't stopped him from having impact and making difference in games. The likes of Oscar, Willian etc are not having too dissimilar role either in the team and they still have not produced it, at least consistently. I agree that our strikers should be contributing (but they are crap anyway) but our system is not confined to everything on the ST only. The AMs still gotta produce it. The burden/responsibility is shared amongst the 4. Mufassir08 and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Apparently Wilshere also thought his injury was not serious however he is believed to be out for 6 weeks now.Yeah, but Wilshire is made of glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hazard doesn't get injured. He's like Ronaldo in that regard. He'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hazard has more responsibility now than before but that still hasn't stopped him from having impact and making difference in games. The likes of Oscar, Willian etc are not having too dissimilar role either in the team and they still have not produced it, at least consistently. I agree that our strikers should be contributing (but they are crap anyway) but our system is not confined to everything on the ST only. The AMs still gotta produce it. The burden/responsibility is shared amongst the 4.Okay, Eden Hazard is a special player. Still don't see why you think that because Eden is Eden why the others aren't good enough. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DDA 9,939 Posted March 6, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hazard doesn't get injured. He's like Ronaldo in that regard. He'll be fine.Don't tempt fate like that bro! dee25, The Chels, sdrcfc and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted March 7, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hazard has more responsibility now than before but that still hasn't stopped him from having impact and making difference in games. The likes of Oscar, Willian etc are not having too dissimilar role either in the team and they still have not produced it, at least consistently. I agree that our strikers should be contributing (but they are crap anyway) but our system is not confined to everything on the ST only. The AMs still gotta produce it. The burden/responsibility is shared amongst the 4.You started the post well, but then you missed the point again that others involved in the discussion keep trying to show you.Not even Hazard replaces Hazard. Yes, he's been our best player this season, but he's had a lot of quiet matches too, including some of which recently, and that Hazard doesn't come close to the best version we had in many matches. There's no other Hazard in the team and chances are there won't be any time soon. It's like expecting to have two Messis or two Ronaldos in a squad. It's unlikely, even if Hazard is not there yet in terms of fulfilling his potential. Still he's a rare talent, one a club is lucky to have, not the kind of player any club can afford to collect in their squad.Hazard can't be replaced by Oscar, William or by 99% of players right now. He's one of the very best, evolving into becoming a Ballon d'Or material. Expecting others to develop as farther as him is not only unfair to them - as they're not naturally talented as he is - but also delusional, as his talent can't be easily found.In a team with Hazards, Messis, Ronaldos, Zidanes, Ronaldinhos, etc... expect the 'burden' to be shared even remotely equally between the players is not realistic imo. It doesn't mean Oscar and Willian as well as the rest of the AMs shouldn't raise their level, especially the Brazilians. They should and they will (they're all very young with the exception of Willian), but the reference isn't Hazard. The reference is their own capability at this point of their careers and their adaptation to English football. communicate, kellzfresh, Coop and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 You started the post well, but then you missed the point again that others involved in the discussion keep trying to show you.Not even Hazard replaces Hazard. Yes, he's been our best player this season, but he's had a lot of quiet matches too, including some of which recently, and that Hazard doesn't come close to the best version we had in many matches. There's no other Hazard in the team and chances are there won't be any time soon. It's like expecting to have two Messis or two Ronaldos in a squad. It's unlikely, even if Hazard is not there yet in terms of fulfilling his potential. Still he's a rare talent, one a club is lucky to have, not the kind of player any club can afford to collect in their squad.Hazard can't be replaced by Oscar, William or by 99% of players right now. He's one of the very best, evolving into becoming a Ballon d'Or material. Expecting others to develop as farther as him is not only unfair to them - as they're not naturally talented as he is - but also delusional, as his talent can't be easily found.In a team with Hazards, Messis, Ronaldos, Zidanes, Ronaldinhos, etc... expect the 'burden' to be shared even remotely equally between the players is not realistic imo. It doesn't mean Oscar and Willian as well as the rest of the AMs shouldn't raise their level, especially the Brazilians. They should and they will (they're all very young with the exception of Willian), but the reference isn't Hazard. The reference is their own capability at this point of their careers and their adaptation to English football.Bravo! Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 You started the post well, but then you missed the point again that others involved in the discussion keep trying to show you.Not even Hazard replaces Hazard. Yes, he's been our best player this season, but he's had a lot of quiet matches too, including some of which recently, and that Hazard doesn't come close to the best version we had in many matches. There's no other Hazard in the team and chances are there won't be any time soon. It's like expecting to have two Messis or two Ronaldos in a squad. It's unlikely, even if Hazard is not there yet in terms of fulfilling his potential. Still he's a rare talent, one a club is lucky to have, not the kind of player any club can afford to collect in their squad.Hazard can't be replaced by Oscar, William or by 99% of players right now. He's one of the very best, evolving into becoming a Ballon d'Or material. Expecting others to develop as farther as him is not only unfair to them - as they're not naturally talented as he is - but also delusional, as his talent can't be easily found.In a team with Hazards, Messis, Ronaldos, Zidanes, Ronaldinhos, etc... expect the 'burden' to be shared even remotely equally between the players is not realistic imo. It doesn't mean Oscar and Willian as well as the rest of the AMs shouldn't raise their level, especially the Brazilians. They should and they will (they're all very young with the exception of Willian), but the reference isn't Hazard. The reference is their own capability at this point of their careers and their adaptation to English football.I know what others have said but I never said that they should take Hazard as the reference point. I apologize if I didn't make my point clear to begin with. What I was trying to say then that if Hazard is injured (which now he isn't obviously), then it highlights that we lack another player that makes an impact and the difference in our team. Hazard is Hazard. He is a special talent, one of a kind (if you like) yes but I don't mean others needed to be like him. The other players can still have a similar impact and make a difference to our team, in their own way, just like Oscar did earlier this season. Moreover I then pointed out that if say Oscar and/or Willian is/are in form now, then it would help to at least alleviate a potential loss of Hazard is the starting XI because they would still produce the goals/assists and make an impact to the team in their own way. However, the problem is Oscar is out of form right now while Willian is still inconsistent in terms of his final product in the attacking third. And yes I am aware that in time, the likes of Oscar, Willian etc would develop into a better player than they are now and contributing better as well as more consistently to the team but I was speaking about the current situation. Barbara and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 HAZARD: A PLEASURE TO PLAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 HAZARD: A PLEASURE TO PLAYI remember saying Eden is the kind of guy needing a LOT of minutes (it is a belgian thing - see KDB or Courtois for the opposite). He is not one to burn out, more like one that is about to really lift off. You heard it here first. Period :-) Believe me this time ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I remember saying Eden is the kind of guy needing a LOT of minutes (it is a belgian thing - see KDB or Courtois for the opposite).He is not one to burn out, more like one that is about to really lift off. You heard it here first. Period :-) Believe me this time !Yea as Hkibou said a few pages back, his patches of "subpar" performances at times aren't due to fatigue, it's his state of mind.It's no coincidence he racks up the dribbles and passes once he gets going in a game. For every dribble he succeeds he gains confidence, and at full confidence the magic happens. Stingray, Barbara, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Yes. It is determined by the amount of touches and the movement around. It will be a challenge for narcissists ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Man,his composure at shooting penalties is frightening.He always slots the ball with no hesitation home and sends the GK to the false corner.I really like this technique.Keep it up,Eddie! Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAF 162 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Man,his composure at shooting penalties is frightening.He always slots the ball with no hesitation home and sends the GK to the false corner.I really like this technique.Keep it up,Eddie!think he missed one in his Chelsea carreer. not sure how many he's taken though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 8, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 8, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgp4RhUUpskAnother brilliant performance from the young master. Not quite a complete compilation as I remember him toying with the Spurs defense with a series of sweet defense splitting passes. This guy is head and shoulders above any player his age in world football and is one of the best players in the world. Beigl, Coop, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 That Willian long pass + the touch to set it for Eto was lovely! The Chels and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 think he missed one in his Chelsea carreer. not sure how many he's taken though.I think it's 6 from 7, but not entirely sure. MAF, BlueLion. and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I think it's 6 from 7, but not entirely sure.Spot on mate. Missed against Nordsjalejejdnoefjwojland last season. Blue Armour, Barbara, Stingray and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 He always seem to try the same type of penalty, it will eventually get find out by the GK imo. Need to learn to put them hard in the top corner too in case when coming up the bests like Lopez, Neuer, Casillas...etc. Neuer especially best in the world at stopping pen, trying lazy or deceiving pens with him won't work like Ozil did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 9, 2014 He always seem to try the same type of penalty, it will eventually get find out by the GK imo. Need to learn to put them hard in the top corner too in case when coming up the bests like Lopez, Neuer, Casillas...etc. Neuer especially best in the world at stopping pen, trying lazy or deceiving pens with him won't work like Ozil did.It's not like he randomly picks a corner though... he waits for the keeper to make a move. I see no reason to complain before he starts missing Rmpr, Stats, yuvala and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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