Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I know Zabaleta touched him but Eden shouldn't have gone down all theatrical like you said.The sticks he gets purely come from people's high expectations of him, like I said in the post match thread, it pains my arse to see him under-performing in big matches like today because we all know he is more than capable to do so much better.He had an off day and I'm sure he will be back to his usual brilliance in no time.I realise that, but I still don't get it. He's still a very young player developing, he will have quiet spells and he will have good spells, that's inevitable.He's no superstar (yet?), yet some people expect superstar performances every week. I wish we payed 10mill pounds less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 In basketball we call that kinda play ankle breaker.And Eden did a "Hot Sauce crossover" there! Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I know Hazard can perform in big games...no doubt about that after performances against Bayern and Utd (last season).That said, he was quiet in today's game, although his work-rate was top notch.Of course, it didn't help him or the team, that both Lampard and Ramires were on yellow cards (else Mata might have come on instead of Mikel), so both wide players had to track back to help with defensive duties. Players like Hazard aren't meant to be work horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppi85 110 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 So you completely contradict yourself.Also I dont agree with you. Hazard did track back a lot but to no use. Rarely intercepted anything, his passing was way off. He just didnt have a good game at all in any aspect. Should have been subbed earlier. This doesnt mean he is shit, we all know he isnt. Just had a bad day at the office.Hazard did intercept a lotta balls. He's was the best interceptor of our attacking players last year. & also this year he's doing great again in intercepting!btw Torres his shot against the woodwork... -> Hazard intercepting the ball. His attacking play wasnt there probably due to playin at left back. I dont like Oscar @ 10. I want to see Mata again. He & Eden link up so good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 No matter how much can Oscar and Eden link, Mata and Eden did it much better. Oscar is different mould of player, he doesnt posses same vision of Mata and cant make double passes with Hazard that well. As for Eden, he needs to step up in big games. He is the flair guy, the dribbler, our Ribery/Ronaldo/Bale.When nothing goes right, he must be the guy who pushes our team forward. It will be hard, but Mourinho needs to tell him that now. He is 22 and will need to pull strings alone. Would be great to see completely solo goals by Eden on regular basis, he hasnt done that yet. Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 No matter how much can Oscar and Eden link, Mata and Eden did it much better. Oscar is different mould of player, he doesnt posses same vision of Mata and cant make double passes with Hazard that well.As for Eden, he needs to step up in big games. He is the flair guy, the dribbler, our Ribery/Ronaldo/Bale.When nothing goes right, he must be the guy who pushes our team forward. It will be hard, but Mourinho needs to tell him that now. He is 22 and will need to pull strings alone. Would be great to see completely solo goals by Eden on regular basis, he hasnt done that yet.You keep telling yourself that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 You keep telling yourself that......Why should I listen to you, everyone has his own opinion. Oscar will probably never have that creativity that Mata has. Never. But Oscar is more complete player and could achieve bigger things and become better player. But as for passing, vision or sheer creativity goes, Mata is much better. At age 21, Mata was already big star in La liga, scoring and assisting on regular basis and he was actualy better than Silva at same age. But Mata is very uncomplete and thats why he isnt useful as Silva or Oscar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Why should I listen to you, everyone has his own opinion. Oscar will probably never have that creativity that Mata has. Never. But Oscar is more complete player and could achieve bigger things and become better player. But as for passing, vision or sheer creativity goes, Mata is much better. At age 21, Mata was already big star in La liga, scoring and assisting on regular basis and he was actualy better than Silva at same age. But Mata is very uncomplete and thats why he isnt useful as Silva or Oscar.People on this board say creativity, but all you guys means assists and stats.....You say all these attributes, but your comparing Oscar playing for a defensive coach rather than Rafa giving him free reigns just to roam around and go forward... In addition, Hazard has taken it to stride and even though his performances aren't that good so far, he has made it his choice to work his azz off.. Even if that meant playing on the right side, his weaker position..On a side note, Silva was the brains of Valencia all those years..... Mata was never better than Silva in Spain, Silva dropped a lot at City cause City has so many guys that can play cam...So, he played on the wings for most of his time at City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapa 11 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Hazard did intercept a lotta balls. He's was the best interceptor of our attacking players last year. & also this year he's doing great again in intercepting!btw Torres his shot against the woodwork... -> Hazard intercepting the ball. His attacking play wasnt there probably due to playin at left back. I dont like Oscar @ 10. I want to see Mata again. He & Eden link up so good!you don't like Oscar but he's the best player atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 He's one of the 23 that are nominated for the ballon d'or this year haranr and Pacquiao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 He's one of the 23 that are nominated for the ballon d'or this yearWhich means Eden Hazard is world class in top 23 of the WORLD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 29, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 29, 2013 Congrats to hazard for that achievement, never easy to be a top 23 player in the world. I got some friends saying he doesnt deserve to be there..... Despiadado.Maleante, mediator, Belgiannutt and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I don't mind him in the list at all but i feel mata deserves to be there more than some players on that list, hazard inclusive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Which means Eden Hazard is world class in top 23 of the WORLD.Congrats to hazard for that achievement, never easy to be a top 23 player in the world. I got some friends saying he doesnt deserve to be there.....I'm sorry but Hazard is not one of the top 23 players in the world right now.Is Hazard one of the top 23 YOUNG players in the world? Yes. Can he make it to the top 23 players in the world in the future? Yes. In fact, he can be amongst top 5 best players in the world in the future.But right now, he is only showing glimpses of his talents and playing well in patches here and there. Hazard's performances and consistency have not justified that claim. If he wants to be regarded as one of the best 20 players in the world at this moment, he needs to show more of his potential/abilities and perform better on the pitch as well as doing so consistently! DJames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Oooh the double standards...When last year FIFA announced their insulting starting eleven, people went nuts. Now that Hazard was nominated, he is automatically in the top 23!I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm sorry but Hazard is not one of the top 23 players in the world right now.Is Hazard one of the top 23 YOUNG players in the world? Yes. Can he make it to the top 23 players in the world in the future? Yes. In fact, he can be amongst top 5 best players in the world in the future.But right now, he is only showing glimpses of his talents and playing well in patches here and there. Hazard's performances and consistency have not justified that claim. If he wants to be regarded as one of the best 20 players in the world at this moment, he needs to show more of his potential/abilities and perform better on the pitch as well as doing so consistently!I meant on paper. Its a fact. Ballon Dor decides who is thebest footballer on the plant and if Hazard is nomanited than he is in the top 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm sorry but Hazard is not one of the top 23 players in the world right now.Is Hazard one of the top 23 YOUNG players in the world? Yes. Can he make it to the top 23 players in the world in the future? Yes. In fact, he can be amongst top 5 best players in the world in the future.But right now, he is only showing glimpses of his talents and playing well in patches here and there. Hazard's performances and consistency have not justified that claim. If he wants to be regarded as one of the best 20 players in the world at this moment, he needs to show more of his potential/abilities and perform better on the pitch as well as doing so consistently!Maybe hazard is a top 30, but I saw people like pique enter that list. So I think hazard can be the surprise name this year. Its not as if there were many people that deserved to enter ahead of him anyways. I know mata deserves to enter there its shocking how they forgot him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Oooh the double standards...When last year FIFA announced their insulting starting eleven, people went nuts. Now that Hazard was nominated, he is automatically in the top 23!I see. DUDDEE. Easy as that. FIFA thinks EDEN HAZARD is in the top 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hopefully this can give him a confidence boost and he starts perfoming like a top-23 player this season aswell. He really needs to work on his consistency,which is the thing I would say that he is missing to really challenge in these kind of rankings. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I meant on paper. Its a fact. Ballon Dor decides who is thebest footballer on the plant and if Hazard is nomanited than he is in the top 23.Are you seriously that passive or perhaps even ignorant to just trust the nomination list? Every year, all these awards throw up a list of players that is in contention to win it but there is always some that doesn't even deserve to be in there. Some are just in there for name sakes or for commercial interest. It's just like how Wenger, every year, seem to make it into the FIFA Coach of the Year shortlist when he hasn't even achieved anything!Maybe hazard is a top 30, but I saw people like pique enter that list. So I think hazard can be the surprise name this year. Its not as if there were many people that deserved to enter ahead of him anyways.I know mata deserves to enter there its shocking how they forgot him.That argument still doesn't really justify Hazard's inclusion in that list. The fact that FIFA disregarded Mata, who if any Chelsea player deserves to be in there, it's him, and have Hazard in there tells its own story.Happy to see a Chelsea player aka Hazard in there but really, his performances and form over the past year doesn't really quality him to be there. Barbara and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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