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Attacking football. Both CBs and partly full backs, Cdm (Mikel) to play defense, Lamps central role, Wingers, Mata and striker to play fast attack. Not too much attacking, ala Barca but more like what Real is doing. Counters. Same style we played under Ancelotti!

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I know it's nice to see young players come through but nothing compares to the feeling of seeing us sign the worlds best players. Can't wait til this is complete.

The best feeling is when your own youth player becomes one of best in his position. Beats all superstars you might sign before just because you can say this kid was made by us.

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And that is still possible even if we buy Hulk aswell. Bertrand did a good job as winger in the finals. Ramires can play as DM with Mikel etc.

I doubt Bertrand plays any midfield this season. He played one game as defensive cover in an extreme defensive formation. It's just not his position. Also, we really need Lampard to be in the defensive midfield. Mikel is excellent defensively and Ramires is good, but neither is good at ball movement or is particularly creative and you need to bridge the gap between the defenders and the attackers. Otherwise, you have the attackers coming back too deep to receive the ball.

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The best feeling is when your own youth player becomes one of best in his position. Beats all superstars you might sign before just because you can say this kid was made by us.

I agree although I'd also say that buying a young player for cheap and watching them develop into an excellent player or buying an unknown and watching them excel are excellent.

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I'm not saying we don't and I think Hazard and Hulk (and Marin and De Bruyne) are all excellent additions and should form a potent attack that could lead us to winning the Premier League. I am simply saying that, inevitably, we, like any other side, would have to adopt a more defensive approach than we normally would were we to play Barcelona or Real Madrid.

There are two kinds of defensive style:

1. you keep all regular players, but put them

more defensibly (RM)

2. You take you attackers away and replace them with defenders (Chelsea CL this year)

And with second option everyone shits on your team and you cant perform 5 straight passes and make 5 decent attacks in whole game. I dont want that again. Not when we have Hulk and Hazard.

Borussia style against Bayern was great performance or Real against Barca last time.

Chelsea did nothing against Bayern, except that goal and I dont want us to play like that again.

But if you take Hulk away and play with Ramires we will play like that again.

I wouldnt play straight attack against Barca, but put REGULAR players more back. I would play Hazard, Hulk, Mata and Torres at same time, but more defensibly. Im sure Roman wants us to play like that. That style is more defensible, but allows us to have lot of creation.

People criticise us to play to much defensibly and I want We play more attacking. Including teams like Barca. RM has very attacking team, but they still play against barca, they are just putted more defensibly. That is what we should do if we face barca. Not take away all out creative players and put 10 defenders in penalty area like last time in CL final. We need to start DOMINATE the game, not leave opponent the ball.

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I doubt Bertrand plays any midfield this season. He played one game as defensive cover in an extreme defensive formation. It's just not his position. Also, we really need Lampard to be in the defensive midfield. Mikel is excellent defensively and Ramires is good, but neither is good at ball movement or is particularly creative and you need to bridge the gap between the defenders and the attackers. Otherwise, you have the attackers coming back too deep to receive the ball.

Eh. Ramires doesnt need to be creative from a DM position. He is good at running with the ball forward and perhaps set up Hulk with a nice pass on the wing. Mikel is good at what he does and we should use him. We also got Lampard who's been excellent down there.

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I agree although I'd also say that buying a young player for cheap and watching them develop into an excellent player or buying an unknown and watching them excel are excellent.

Yes, but recently such transfers didnt work for us. Lukaku, Kakuta,...perhaps we need to have top team first (there is less pressure for youth) and slowly replacing older players with our youth players. That could work.

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Eh. Ramires doesnt need to be creative from a DM position. He is good at running with the ball forward and perhaps set up Hulk with a nice pass on the wing. Mikel is good at what he does and we should use him. We also got Lampard who's been excellent down there.

You do need to have some creativity from a deeper position. This was one of the big problems for Chelsea last season. You need to get the ball from the defence to the attackers by passing. If you get the ball to Mata when he's running back for it near midfield, it's hard for him to create anything. You want to be able to hit a player going forward and to be able to hit different attacking players so the opposing defence is uncertain of how you are attacking.

You need to find the proper player for the role. I like Ramires for this Chelsea squad because in a squad of players that need to touch the ball a lot, it is very useful to have a player who can contribute without needing touches. His speed creates space for other players which is fabulous. However, he simply is not the type of player you want setting up your offense. He has 1 or 2 assists (Wikipedia and Soccernet disagree about the total) in 56 Premiership games at Chelsea. He just isn't a very good passer nor does he have very good vision for creating plays. (He has very good timing on when to make runs though.)

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And that is still possible even if we buy Hulk aswell. Bertrand did a good job as winger in the finals. Ramires can play as DM with Mikel etc.

Wtf? Im not against signing Hulk, infect I'm

completely for it, nor gave I ever said anything to make anyone think otherwise, I'm a big fan of Hulk.

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