OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 We need class winger (not some young talent, we have Hazard), Hulk is class winger. Every class winger is around 30-40 mio (even Bilbao wants 30 for Muniain) End of story.If Hulk is not right for you or anyone else, no one will be. 25 is not old, he has creativity, team work (assists), goals, speed. strenght, aerial ability, long shots, short/long FKs. He likes to join Chelsea, is worker and can decide match.Some players are made to play in club better than at int level, england players are fine example. Epl suits Hulk very well, if Mata can outplay defenders, Hulk will do it with ease.Nowdays, ball control and speed are very important and Hulk is good at that. Plus we play counters and I can see Hulk easier to escape defenders than Lavezzi or Muniain.I didn't say that Hulk isn't right, I just said for the price we can get Muniain or Lavezzi for less than 38 million and they are both quality players. Muniain would be a long term investment. Hulk would be a good signing don't get me wrong, in fact an amazing signing for us, its just Muniain is going to be wanted by every big club in the next 2 or 3 years so we should really look to invest in him while hes cheaper than he probably will be and he is better than Malouda, Kalou and Danny. Tbh any good winger will do was just trying to put my opinion across... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 According to the UEFA Coefficients Portuguese teams are better than French.Yes, but that is based entirely on one club, Porto, having success in Europe. The French League is definitely deeper and more difficult to play in. Five champions in the last five seasons. Porto has lost one game in 2 years in Portugal. It's a league that is one dominant team, two or three decent teams, and most of the rest of the league would be in the first division in England. So, if you are a player for Marsaille or Lille or PSG, you have a much more difficult test than if you are coming from Porto. As for "I bet you've never seen Hulk play" crap, I've seen him play in about 20 games. He had excellent skills and is very tricky, but in this youtube/fifa12 world, Hulk has gone from being a very skilled winger with a great left foot to a "world-class player" without accomplishing anything. People are trying to make Hulk to be the exact player they want him to be. He isn't. He has some incredible skills, but he has real flaws too. He shoots way too much and from too far (he took way more shots than Sturridge did last year), he goes down very easily, he's suspect defensively, and he's unproven against good clubs. (And if you think he's going to physically dominate Premiership defenders, you're crazy) Yes, it's possible he'll come to Chelsea and turn into a dominant offensive force. It's absolutely a real possibility. But it's also a real possibility that he'll come to Chelsea and find that the speed, trickery, and power that he was able to use against Portuguese defenders is just not good enough to succeed in the Premiership. Considering that David Silva cost £24m two years ago and Mata cost £23.5m last season and they were both younger, more established, and played in a better league than Hulk, this talk of £38m seems ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Porto's official website shows 180cm and 85kg. Looks pretty accurate imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec 33 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Yes, but that is based entirely on one club, Porto, having success in Europe. The French League is definitely deeper and more difficult to play in. Five champions in the last five seasons. Porto has lost one game in 2 years in Portugal. It's a league that is one dominant team, two or three decent teams, and most of the rest of the league would be in the first division in England. So, if you are a player for Marsaille or Lille or PSG, you have a much more difficult test than if you are coming from Porto.I agree and disagree, Portuguese teams have a good track record in the Europa League with the likes of Braga and such. It shows that even though France have a deeper league the quality of the teams who compete for Portugal are better and in terms of Hulk this applies. It is a good learning curve and nice to get the winning mentality and as Chelsea have proved players from Portugal can come into the Premier League and be successful.Porto's official website shows 180cm and 85kg. Looks pretty accurate imo.God bless WhoScored.com and their accurate facts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Soccernet has him at 68 KG which is 150 pounds. It's possible he weighs more. I have no idea. The point is that he's not some physical monster.No I understood your point, just the numbers didn't seem right. Power is a huge part of his game though, but not everything. He is rapidly quick as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7796935/Ramires-hopeful-on-Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ramires hopeful on Hulk Chelsea midfielder believes striker would add a lot to squadhttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7796935/Ramires-hopeful-on-Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ramires hopeful on Hulk Chelsea midfielder believes striker would add a lot to squadhttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7796935/Ramires-hopeful-on-HulkI'm gonna call you 'the breaking news guy'Always first to the breaking news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzi 233 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ramires hopeful on Hulk Chelsea midfielder believes striker would add a lot to squadhttp://www1.skysport...hopeful-on-HulkWhy would Ramires want Hulk to come and take his position, maybe he has been told he'll play in the double pivot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I'm gonna call you 'the breaking news guy'Always first to the breaking news. It's My Job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I agree and disagree, Portuguese teams have a good track record in the Europa League with the likes of Braga and such. It shows that even though France have a deeper league the quality of the teams who compete for Portugal are better and in terms of Hulk this applies. It is a good learning curve and nice to get the winning mentality and as Chelsea have proved players from Portugal can come into the Premier League and be successful.The teams in Portugal are very weak after Porto and Benfica. Sporting and Braga are decent teams and after that, the league is pitiful. Of course, a player can come from anywhere and succeed in the Premier League but success in Portugal (or any lesser league) is not a great indicator of success in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec 33 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 The teams in Portugal are very weak after Porto and Benfica. Sporting and Braga are decent teams and after that, the league is pitiful. Of course, a player can come from anywhere and succeed in the Premier League but success in Portugal (or any lesser league) is not a great indicator of success in England. I agree but when Porto and Benfica do it in Europe against big teams and they also suceed for their national side in which Hulk does it is normally a good indicator of their raw talent.Oh but it begs the question - If League 2 had 10 teams vying for the title on the last week but the Premier League had 2 does that make League 2 a better standard? Not really, so there's a flaw in your logic but I understand what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Believe...Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Believe...Madness I just keep wondering who's going to take on this role: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I just keep wondering who's going to take on this role:Lol, the man behind everything. Perfect role: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 This is going to drag on, isn't it? Hmm at least we got Hazard nice and early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Should have made a CM as the priority this summer. Hopefully we dont end up signing another meireles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Why would Ramires want Hulk to come and take his position, maybe he has been told he'll play in the double pivot or maybe he's a team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,472 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Why would Ramires want Hulk to come and take his position, maybe he has been told he'll play in the double pivot Because Ramires hopefully isn't going to play on the right wing. So much better in the central midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Gonçalo Lopes @_GoncaloLopesHulk in London next week, probably to sign for #cfc. The info comes from the brazilian press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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