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[The Big Drog 1,110]

i am still not convinced that

-------torres

hazard mata hulk

--mikel lampard

will work.

Hulk as a player could be great but will this team work well together or be aware of their defensive duties? i am not sure yet.

Gomez

Ribery, Kroos, Robben

Works and is very effective and puts opposing teams on the back foot, why can't our forward line do the same?

[Superblue 6,372]

So he's much more of a Salomon Kalou type person than a Cristiano Ronaldo style egotist. Good to know, that goes against a lot of my preconceived notions of him and has certainly made me anticipate his signing a bit more.

I saw an interview with him once and they asked him what he does in his free time. He said he goes straight home from the training ground to spend the rest of the day with his wife and young daughter He came across as a very humble family man.

I think the worries about his work rate and going down at times easily can only be determined once he has been here and settled at the club. A lot of the foreign players do not have such qualities when they come here but they embrace the English spirit and that spirit is arguably strongest within Chelsea.

For example look at somebody like Mata. His work rate was tireless and he showed real defensive discipline in 2 games against Barca and the final against Bayern. I wouldn't have expected him capable of showing that when he first joined.

[Strike 7,486]

Gomez

Ribery, Kroos, Robben

Works and is very effective and puts opposing teams on the back foot, why can't our forward line do the same?

yeah. real effective in the final

i get your point though. adds pace and flair to our attack and that will inadvertently help torres but we have to think about defensive duties here. mata can be bypassed too easily and hazard and hulk's defending will not be enough against good opponents.

also, the bayern attack has had its fair share of problems. robben-ribs dispute etc plus, the bayern attack had a solid base to rely on in the form of schweinsteiger while we have lampard who is aging and can't physically out-run or outmuscle opponents.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

yeah. real effective in the final

i get your point though. adds pace and flair to our attack and that will inadvertently help torres but we have to think about defensive duties here. mata can be bypassed too easily and hazard and hulk's defending will not be enough against good opponents.

also, the bayern attack has had its fair share of problems. robben-ribs dispute etc plus, the bayern attack had a solid base to rely on in the form of schweinsteiger while we have lampard who is aging and can't physically out-run or outmuscle opponents.

Actually yes it was rather effective (with Muller playing ina more attacking role than Kroos). It was that forward line that pressed us into defending so deep, maybe our attack next season might make other teams do the same against us, give us the initiative in the game.

I think people are understating Hulk's willingness to work a bit, he is no Ramires but he is also no Robben. Anyway if we are playing against a Barcelona or Real Madrid, the only teams we should have to defend deep against, then you can be confident that Ramires will probably start ahead of one of those 4.

Granted the Bayern midfield is stronger than ours, though Mikel has improved and Lampard has developed well into playing a deeper midfield role.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I think people are understating Hulk's willingness to work a bit, he is no Ramires but he is also no Robben. Anyway if we are playing against a Barcelona or Real Madrid, the only teams we should have to defend deep against, then you can be confident that Ramires will probably start ahead of one of those 4.

What is wrong with your logic man?

We bought Hulk and Hazard to play attacking football including against teams like RM or Barca. Not putting them on bench and play anti-football!

this season, we had to play defensibly against

Barca or Bayern because we had no attack. Now with Hulk and Hazard, we will play against Barca or any team with RM style, possesion, fast moving, counters, attacking, creative football.

And again, you would bench Hulk and Hazard on lets say CL final, most inportant match against Barca or RM and play with Ramires and Kalou just because they can defend better?

Fuck that, you need to start thinking more about attacking football, not just this damn defensive style. I bet Mou isnt thinking, he will bench Ronaldo and play Coentrao just because Coentrao can defend better.

We play defensive because we had shit attack, now with 70mio spend in attack, I expect to see Bayern/City or RM attacking style in all our matches!

[Superblue 6,372]

What is wrong with your logic man?

We bought Hulk and Hazard to play attacking football including against teams like RM or Barca. Not putting them on bench and play anti-football!

this season, we had to play defensibly against

Barca or Bayern because we had no attack. Now with Hulk and Hazard, we will play against Barca or any team with RM style, possesion, fast moving, counters, attacking, creative football.

And again, you would bench Hulk and Hazard on lets say CL final, most inportant match against Barca or RM and play with Ramires and Kalou just because they can defend better?

Fuck that, you need to start thinking more about attacking football, not just this damn defensive style. I bet Mou isnt thinking, he will bench Ronaldo and play Coentrao just because Coentrao can defend better.

We play defensive because we had shit attack, now with 70mio spend in attack, I expect to see Bayern/City or RM attacking style in all our matches!

Agree to an extent. We'll still have a back 4 and 2 defensive minded midfielders to defend for us.

The attacking 4 will press teams further up the field and hopefully win the ball at times in key areas which pins teams in just like real and barca do.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

What is wrong with your logic man?

We bought Hulk and Hazard to play attacking football including against teams like RM or Barca. Not putting them on bench and play anti-football!

this season, we had to play defensibly against

Barca or Bayern because we had no attack. Now with Hulk and Hazard, we will play against Barca or any team with RM style, possesion, fast moving, counters, attacking, creative football.

And again, you would bench Hulk and Hazard on lets say CL final, most inportant match against Barca or RM and play with Ramires and Kalou just because they can defend better?

Fuck that, you need to start thinking more about attacking football, not just this damn defensive style. I bet Mou isnt thinking, he will bench Ronaldo and play Coentrao just because Coentrao can defend better.

We play defensive because we had shit attack, now with 70mio spend in attack, I expect to see Bayern or Barca attacking style in all our matches!

Absolutely we bought them to play attacking football and I think we are in for a treat next season with the style of play we will be employing but no to fight fire with fire against Barcelina or Real Madrid is a ridiculous notion.

Not both, but definitely 1 if we were to play Madrid or Barca so that we could play with a 3 man midfield with Ramiresorividing vital running duties. If course both Hazard and Hulk could start with Msta being sacrificed by Ramures, either way, if we were to play Madrid or Barcelina you won't see Hazard, Hulk, Mata and Torres all in the pitch at the same time unless we are chasing a goal. That sounds great except Mou has a midfield of Alonso and Khedira and the best player in the world on his left flank, also he has occasionally opted for the defensive route in games against Barcelona.

I agree, our attack should be vastly improved and it should concern lots if top teams but, inevitably, Barcelona or Real Madrid would still feel they have the attacking initiative going into a game against us.

[chrismada9 1,948]

So you can be happy, he is not the next Drogba, ne is the next Kalouuuuu.

£30m + for a Kalou mark 2 then eh? .. does that mean we are doomed!?

[The Big Drog 1,110]

Sorry some dreadful grammar mistakes there, my phone is messing me up.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Regarding attack football. What would you prefer:

a) Playing defensively with less attacking seeing more 1-0 and 2-1 games always with the risk of the other team equalizing

or

Still having a solid defense and playing wonderful attacking football seeing more goals scored? 3-1, 2-0,

CHelseas problem in the EPL this season has been that we were often 1-0 or 2-1 and then the other team finds a way to score late in the match and we would most of the time be fucked. We need more offensive ability.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

Regarding attack football. What would you prefer:

a) Playing defensively with less attacking seeing more 1-0 and 2-1 games always with the risk of the other team equalizing

or

Still having a solid defense and playing wonderful attacking football seeing more goals scored? 3-1, 2-0,

CHelseas problem in the EPL this season has been that we were often 1-0 or 2-1 and then the other team finds a way to score late in the match and we would most of the time be fucked. We need more offensive ability.

I'm not saying we don't and I think Hazard and Hulk (and Marin and De Bruyne) are all excellent additions and should form a potent attack that could lead us to winning the Premier League. I am simply saying that, inevitably, we, like any other side, would have to adopt a more defensive approach than we normally would were we to play Barcelona or Real Madrid.

[Superblue 6,372]

Regarding attack football. What would you prefer:

a) Playing defensively with less attacking seeing more 1-0 and 2-1 games always with the risk of the other team equalizing

or

Still having a solid defense and playing wonderful attacking football seeing more goals scored? 3-1, 2-0,

CHelseas problem in the EPL this season has been that we were often 1-0 or 2-1 and then the other team finds a way to score late in the match and we would most of the time be fucked. We need more offensive ability.

Yes i would expect us to be much more like united in that regards, especially at home and turn the screw on weak opponents. 1 or 2 becomes regularly 3 or 4-0

[YouNameIt 1,511]

I'm not saying we don't and I think Hazard and Hulk (and Marin and De Bruyne) are all excellent additions and should form a potent attack that could lead us to winning the Premier League. I am simply saying that, inevitably, we, like any other side, would have to adopt a more defensive approach than we normally would were we to play Barcelona or Real Madrid.

And that is still possible even if we buy Hulk aswell. Bertrand did a good job as winger in the finals. Ramires can play as DM with Mikel etc.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

We are not buying attackers to defend. I guess the Barcelona game has severely deluded some of you...

[diskoviolente 425]

The irony of it all being that Hazard and Hulk are the players that Villas-Boas needed so badly.