David Luiz

[robsblubot 3,595]

Certainly, Chelsea should use the cash. However, him gone, Chelsea´s defense won´t be shattered, I feel.

It won't be shattered, but our defense would look a bit pedestrian with very simple CBs. All our rivals (always except Arsenal) would have better options than us.

What is really scary to me isn't us losing him - life goes on - but Barcelona getting him. He would solve all their CB problems and they would go back to being the best side in the world IMO. Their biggest problem recently has been that they did not have a CB who could make the defense to midfield transition (hello David!), so they've been employing midfielders in teh CB position which hurts them when they actually have to defend in the box. David is the perfect player for them.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Even Cristiano Ronaldo, one of the greatest living player of all time is replaceable. Luiz is nothing compare to him. Maybe the only player that is truly irreplaceable atm is Messi because no one can score 50+ goals every season like he does.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

It won't shattered, but our defense would look a bit pedestrian with very simple CBs. All our rivals (always except Arsenal) would have better options than us.

What is really scary to me isn't us losing him - life goes on - but Barcelona getting him. He would solve all their CB problems and would resume being the best side in the world IMO. They had to problems last season: no CB who could make the defense to midfield transition (hello David!), so they've been employing midfielders in teh CB position which hurts them when they actually have to defend in the box. David is the perfect player for them.

Is that any difference from we trying to sign Rooney to solves our striker problem? From we signing Hazard to help our creativity problem before?

Who are we to deny the other clubs the chance to improve? Sure I hate Barca as much as you are but we cannot have this one sided view. We are trying to sign Rooney is alright while Barca trying to get Luiz is unacceptable?

[zolayes 14,489]

Ferdinand cost 30million about 10 years ago I think ..looking at transfer inflation it is ridiculous to rate at Luiz at 30 million or less ...

Bale 100 million and Luiz 30 million .....not in my book.

[bushman 2,043]

They are bound to be, they have had the biggest success in the Premier League, however that's all over now Fergie is gone.

They will probably turn into Liverpool fans banging on about history soon enough when they can't compete for the title anymore.

Exactly, Manures are banging about their 20 PL titles, history....repetitiously.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Is that any difference from we trying to sign Rooney to solves our striker problem? From we signing Hazard to help our creativity problem before?

Who are we to deny the other clubs the chance to improve? Sure I hate Barca as much as you are but we cannot have this one sided view. We are trying to sign Rooney is alright while Barca trying to get Luiz is unacceptable?

Well, you are barking at the wrong tree... I'm not too fond of Rooney's current form. Would have signed him a couple of years ago, but not right now.

And Rooney's not #1 striker for United -- even his Manager said so -- while Luiz is our absolute best CB; I think his CV/resume is already kind showing that, for club and country.

[bushman 2,043]

It won't be shattered, but our defense would look a bit pedestrian with very simple CBs. All our rivals (always except Arsenal) would have better options than us.

What is really scary to me isn't us losing him - life goes on - but Barcelona getting him. He would solve all their CB problems and they would go back to being the best side in the world IMO. Their biggest problem recently has been that they did not have a CB who could make the defense to midfield transition (hello David!), so they've been employing midfielders in teh CB position which hurts them when they actually have to defend in the box. David is the perfect player for them.

No, it won´t. Plenty of folks there. Azpi, Iva, Cahill, JT, Cole, Bertrand, soon Kalas. If Jose needs to buy, he will.

If I were Jose, I would ask Luiz the similar question as Roman asked him. LUIZ DO YOU WANT TO PLAY FOR CHELSEA ?

[Toli 977]

If he does go, these are the candidates to replace him imo that we could get:

1. Diego Godin

2. Fazio

3. Mangala

4. Sakho

5. Chedjou

6. That Greek CB from Schalker who I cba to search his name

7. Howedes

8. Rami

All are good CB, all quite young apart from Chedjou and none should cost more than £15-£20m max. Well maybe apart from Mangala who we would need to pay his release clause of £30m seeing it is Porto.

godin- quite a good defender but not world-class. also too slow and technically limited

fazio- already 26 and hasnt achieved nothing till yet. solid defender but nowhere near luiz class

mangala- he is a beast. but porto want 50 m for him.

sakho- dont rate him at all. stagnated really in his progress and makes way too much errors.

papadopoulos- good CB, but injury-prone as hell. also schalke dont really want to sell him and he still has to learn a lot.

höwedes- schalke wont sell him, unless for a really high offer.

rami- is awful. have seen enough from him at Valencia and against half-way good strikers he looks embarrasing.

so, most of the options you listed, arent really good at all or would be expensive. mangala would be really the only one who could replace him quite well, but he would be really expensive.

[chrismada9 1,948]

don't see why selling Luiz is even an option. We don't need the money and I don't think they can/will offer enough where the money would be better than keeping Luiz. I realize anything can happen. But we don't need to be a selling club and Luiz is making it clear as of late he wants to stay here. Everyone wants him now after the Confederations Cup and they'll want him even more after the World Cup. If Luiz wants to stay we shouldn't even consider selling. To me he's a big part of the current positive image of the Chelsea squad. Everyone loves him, kids, adults, the other players. The longer he stays he'll only become more important to and more of a leader to the club.

Very true!

David has a contract until 2017 and has already said he's not nterested in talking to another club.. the performance he showed in the Confederations Cup final against Spain proves why we musn't sell him. He is a big future for the long run, and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes our new captain after JT chucks it in.

I actually consider Barca to be a rival club seeing as we've faced them so many times in Europe, so selling Luiz to them shouldn't even cross anyone's mind!

[mediator 2,026]

Don't forget that omoreu got his work permit.

Is really another CB needed if Luiz wants to move?

Ivan

Terry

Cahil

Kalas

Omoreu

[DustinC 136]

Right. And JT himself has even mentioned Luiz as a preference for the next captain. I really see him and Mata being the next JT and Lampard for our club if we keep them around.

[chrismada9 1,948]

Don't forget that omoreu got his work permit.

Is really another CB needed if Luiz wants to move?

Ivan

Terry

Cahil

Kalas

Omoreu

Romeu could make his Valencia move permament next summer, so that would be him out of the equasion.

Besides, Romeu is more of a CDM than he is a centre back, though he can play there.

[Special Juan 28,122]

Talk shit reckon the bid was 25M....We should offer them a tenner and a Toffee Crisp for Messi!!!

[drog.ba 239]

£40m+ and he can go, bring in Hummels

[Toli 977]

£40m+ and he can go, bring in Hummels

because dortmund will sell him, you know. the same as Lewandowski