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In the last 10 minutes every time he got the ball he booted it out, that really pissed me off... he did the same against Liverpool.

Agreed. When we're leading, after about the 75 mins mark, he often just hoofs the ball away to nobody, even if there are clearly options available to him to whom he is more than capable of making the pass. Maybe Luiz thinks he's being some kind of hero clearing the danger, but the reality is that he's creating more of it by inviting further pressure on the team as opposed to simply keeping the ball and wearing down the opponent and their hopes of making a comeback.

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In the last 10 minutes every time he got the ball he booted it out, that really pissed me off... he did the same against Liverpool.

I hate it as well, but I do wonder, isn't that him trying to be the kind of player that will be appreciated by English fans and pundits? Isn't this kind of seriousness and clearance that people in England like? I'm in no way being ironic, I think maybe he doesn't know how to find balance or what people expect from him, so he's just trying to keep it simple and doing a few things that I don't think are necessary at all. I'm not defending him at all, I'm trying to understand him - and even then can't say I do.

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Its very simple. Mourinho thinks he do a better job there than Mikel or Essien. I know its really hard to imagine Special One using Mourinho as a DM when some folks out there, including you, dismiss it as a silly idea...Thats why he is Special.

Mourinho wanted to win the game today and not "not lose", so mikel did not start.

8 starts in 22 PL games now for our "most important player"

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Oh gawd. Luiz was back to being a loose cannon again yesterday and bloody hell, nearly had an heart attack watching him running around like a headless chicken trying to put challenges in. That challenge on Valencia which led to his yellow card was rather stupid and unnecessary as he wasn't even going anywhere! I'm just surprised that the second yellow didn't come since he was mindlessly charging about and even Mourinho spent much of the first half screaming at Luiz to stay in position..

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Reading the last through pages of this thread... There's this common misconception that the English love this big, strong defender who's technically inapt but will get their body in the way, it's not true.

We don't love these warrior-type defenders, they do the job, which is defending, if they have the technical ability on the ball than that a plus. Bobby Moore, Englands most famous defender, was stylish on the ball, he read the game very well and his positional sense was fantastic. He was not this big, strong, neanderthal type defender who's technically poor but will put their body on the line.

David Luiz was never slated for his ability on the ball, it was his defending. When Luiz first came the the league he was tactically poor, his decision making was awful, clumsy, poor at reading the game and honestly on the verge of getting sent off every game. Reading the last few pages, some people make him out to be this total defender who had it all, i'm sorry he didn't.

pachman40, in particular, making out that Chelsea changed his style for the worse, it's nonsense. He's definitely a better player now, but more importantly a better defender.

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I hate it as well, but I do wonder, isn't that him trying to be the kind of player that will be appreciated by English fans and pundits? Isn't this kind of seriousness and clearance that people in England like? I'm in no way being ironic, I think maybe he doesn't know how to find balance or what people expect from him, so he's just trying to keep it simple and doing a few things that I don't think are necessary at all. I'm not defending him at all, I'm trying to understand him - and even then can't say I do.

He was was booting the ball away in midfield, i'd understand if we was getting pushed back and there was no other options other than kick the ball out. But he was under no pressure at all. It was very strange, I've never seen someone in midfield do that before :lol:

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He was was booting the ball away in midfield, i'd understand if we was getting pushed back and there was no other options other than kick the ball out. But he was under no pressure at all. It was very strange, I've never seen someone in midfield do that before :lol:

It's the result of him being scrutinised for trying to keep possession. Before, him not clearing it was a problem. Now it's the other way around.
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He was was booting the ball away in midfield, i'd understand if we was getting pushed back and there was no other options other than kick the ball out. But he was under no pressure at all. It was very strange, I've never seen someone in midfield do that before :lol:

Yeah. That was fucked up logic. Just buys few seconds before United can regroup and attack again. Unless it is 94:55 in 5 mins of added time, I don't think booting up should even be considered

It's the result of him being scrutinised for trying to keep possession. Before, him not clearing it was a problem. Now it's the other way around.

This was in midfield under no pressure

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