David Luiz

[Sidzeret 2,257]

We keep complaining about the lack of depth we have most times, that we lack a DLP and we're completely right about that.

But watch this match (entire Spain x Brazil match) and keep up how many deep/long passes by David Luiz that were not only successful but brilliant!

I hope we see many of those from him next season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TNdvY0F7Qw

Works well in our 2 man pivot

[magic weeds 446]

Thiago Silva to stay at PSG. Really don't want Barca to come up with a better bid for the geezer.

Barca will go for Marquinho.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Works well in our 2 man pivot

Who? Luiz?! That experiment failed a while ago.

[Barbara 15,149]

I think he works well as a FB who can do what he did against Spain... it was impressive

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think he works well as a FB who can do what he did against Spain... it was impressive

I think you mean CB, dear.

I've stated this numerous times in the past: David can best influence our attack when he plays at CB where he can have much more time and space to pick passes out and where he can make a bigger difference when makes a forward run and gives us an extra man in midfield.

[Barbara 15,149]

I think you mean CB, dear.

I've stated this numerous times in the past: David can best influence our attack when he plays at CB where he can have much more time and space to pick passes out and where he can make a bigger difference when makes a forward run and gives us an extra man in midfield.

full back, center back. I will go crazy any other day with all those positions in English. I think he's where he should be, I don't want him to move to the midfield, that's what I meant

[CHOULO19 24,332]

full back, center back. I will go crazy any other day with all those positions in English. I think he's where he should be, I don't want him to move to the midfield, that's what I meant

Haha. Fullbacks are the players that play on either the right or the left of the defense like Marcelo and Dani Alves. Center backs are just as the name implies.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Who? Luiz?! That experiment failed a while ago.

you mean aside from the spectacular goals and assists from a player playing completely out of position and on CB training schedule (no focus on stamina, midfield movement, etc). Or our absolutely fantastic win ratio while he played in the midfield?!

In my view, and apparently several articles out there, as an experiment it was a rotund success! Whether it should be pursued or not depends on a number of different factors though.

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

you mean aside from the spectacular goals and assists from a player playing completely out of position and on CB training schedule (no focus on stamina, midfield movement, etc). Or our absolutely fantastic win ratio while he played in the midfield?!

In my view, and apparently several articles out there, as an experiment it was a rotund success! Whether it should be pursued or not depends on a number of different factors though.

It was no way a success. He played in the midflied mostly agaisnt shittty teams, flopped hard against benfica and any decent opposition.

[robsblubot 3,595]

It was no way a success. He played in the midflied mostly agaisnt shittty teams, flopped hard against benfica and any decent opposition.

We clearly have a very different understanding of what an experiment is. I frankly do not understand what people were expecting of him, considering again, he does not practice in that position.

Perhaps people who don't like fantastic goals and assists and prefer sideways passing would rather see other type of player there for sure - not my case though.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

you mean aside from the spectacular goals and assists from a player playing completely out of position and on CB training schedule (no focus on stamina, midfield movement, etc). Or our absolutely fantastic win ratio while he played in the midfield?!

In my view, and apparently several articles out there, as an experiment it was a rotund success! Whether it should be pursued or not depends on a number of different factors though.

He had more goals and assists on average playing from the back. And of course our win ratio was better because he only played there against weaker sides. The experiment was an absolute failure because he was constantly out of position, gave the ball away too easily and a bunch of other problems I won't get into again. I've already made these points countless times on here. It was evident for everyone that the performance of our midfield was terrible against any half decent side when Luiz played in there.

[robsblubot 3,595]

He had more goals and assists on average playing from the back. And of course our win ratio was better because he only played there against weaker sides. The experiment was an absolute failure because he was constantly out of position, gave the ball away too easily and a bunch of other problems I won't get into again. I've already made these points countless times on here. It was evident for everyone that the performance of our midfield was terrible against any half decent side when Luiz played in there.

that's a very personal opinion to which you are entitled to, of course. However, you write as fact while a mere quick google search will provide very different views.

I've read a few like this one: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1654066-david-luiz-why-chelsea-should-play-him-solely-in-midfield-next-season

[CHOULO19 24,332]

that's a very personal opinion to which you are entitled to, of course. However, you write as fact while a mere quick google search will provide very different views.

I've read a few like this one: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1654066-david-luiz-why-chelsea-should-play-him-solely-in-midfield-next-season

Those are just trends among pundits. There is hardly any analysis in there. I bet half those article writers only watch the highlights of our matches at most. The opinions of our own fans account for much more, imo. Most our fans wanted Luiz tried in midfield before last season and by the end of it most of them were convinced that he can't play there and only belongs in defense because we saw his weaknesses there.

In terms of why I think that experiment has failed, we've discussed this for a very long time in the past. Here is a previous post of mine that explains my point: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13527-04-david-luiz/?p=658954

[robsblubot 3,595]

Those are just trends among pundits. There is hardly any analysis in there. I bet half those article writers only watch the highlights of our matches at most. The opinions of our own fans account for much more, imo. Most our fans wanted Luiz tried in midfield before last season and by the end of it most of them were convinced that he can't play there and only belongs in defense because we saw his weaknesses there.

In terms of why I think that experiment has failed, we've discussed this for a very long time in the past. Here is a previous post of mine that explains my point: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13527-04-david-luiz/?p=658954

Don't get me wrong, I also prefer David in defense, BUT I still think it's absolutely crazy to say the *experiment* was an "absolute failure."

In other words, give him a proper preseason along with time training in that position and he may address many of his deficiencies. Because, in my opinion, and many others apparently, David as a gifted natural footballer could indeed do exceptionally well in midfield. Again, whether Chelsea have the need, time, or inclination goes beyond the merits and conclusion of the experiment, which by the way, was repeated over and over again.

Since we have completely opposite views on Mikel, it may be that we value completely different things in a midfielder. Which might explain our different positions concerning David in midfield.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Don't get me wrong, I also prefer David in defense, BUT I still think it's absolutely crazy to say the *experiment* was an "absolute failure."

In other words, give him a proper preseason along with time training in that position and he may address many of his deficiencies. Because, in my opinion, and many others apparently, David as a gifted natural footballer could indeed do exceptionally well in midfield. Again, whether Chelsea have the need, time, or inclination goes beyond the merits and conclusion of the experiment, which by the way, was repeated over and over again.

Since we have completely opposite views on Mikel, it may be that we value completely different things in a midfielder. Which might explain our different positions concerning David in midfield.

Fair enough.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Who? Luiz?! That experiment failed a while ago.

Not really.

[Tomo 21,741]

Don't get me wrong, I also prefer David in defense, BUT I still think it's absolutely crazy to say the *experiment* was an "absolute failure."

In other words, give him a proper preseason along with time training in that position and he may address many of his deficiencies. Because, in my opinion, and many others apparently, David as a gifted natural footballer could indeed do exceptionally well in midfield. Again, whether Chelsea have the need, time, or inclination goes beyond the merits and conclusion of the experiment, which by the way, was repeated over and over again.

Since we have completely opposite views on Mikel, it may be that we value completely different things in a midfielder. Which might explain our different positions concerning David in midfield.

David is 27 next season, if he was still 21 or under we could maybe look at it, but it's too late now and i really do not see the issue of him at CB just because he is good at football, if anything that makes us more unpredictable.

The in general "luiz in midfield" thing with all the British pundits shows why England are so far behind the other top footballing nation's. They don't take to defenders unless their a put your body on your line and lump it forward kind off defender, proper old school.

[-Kaplan- 410]

I would be really upset if DL4 left. He's just too good.

Just look at his hair and tell me you don't want that around CFC.