Zone 290 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Luiz is a great player but anywhere near 40 million and "if he wants to leave, sell him. Like Fernando said, I don't want any players here who want to leave. But if he wants to stay then don't sell him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Luiz is a great player but anywhere near 40 million and "if he wants to leave, sell him. Like Fernando said, I don't want any players here who want to leave. But if he wants to stay then don't sell him at all.The problem with selling him to Barca is we might start a trend where they can cherry pick our best talents in the future like Arsenal, we should stick to being a non selling club, United have done it well over the years Beirut_Blues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I have a feeling Luiz's agent is angling for a new contract, using the JT and Lampard strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Luiz is a great player but anywhere near 40 million and "if he wants to leave, sell him. Like Fernando said, I don't want any players here who want to leave. But if he wants to stay then don't sell him at all.Its annoying that clueless people like you believe Luiz want to leave based on one single source: "Mundo Deportivo". Shaan and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I have a feeling Luiz's agent is angling for a new contract, using the JT and Lampard strategy Do you even know who his agent is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone 290 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Its annoying that clueless people like you believe Luiz want to leave based on one single source: "Mundo Deportivo".Instead of calling me clueless read what I wrote careful first. I said "if he wants to leave." And for your information, I don't believe in none of those sources. None of us know how he really feels about a transfer.No need to get personal. Bosnian Blue and Mouri_Matic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Instead of calling me clueless read what I wrote careful first. I said "if he wants to leave." And for your information, I don't believe in none of those sources. None of us know how he really feels about a transfer.No need to get personal.agreed.All players aim to get the best deal they can get and that's why they pay an agent to begin with. David may like playing for Chelsea, and I honestly think he does, but if he is being offered a key player position at Barca with matching wages, and he is unable to get that here, say Mourinho tells him he will be rotated, then he is gone and I would not blame him. There are just too many unknowns.However, right now he is a chelsea player. Just watched him live and it's funny how his technique oozes from him. His first touch, his passing, are of special players. People are just not used to seeing a player with that much ball control playing defense. Don't think he was 100% since he was wearing those muscle tape though. Mouri_Matic and Zone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Decent read for sure and some very interesting stats but also some ridiculous ones. Luiz's dominance in interceptions is no surprise and is, IMO, his main strength but it's nice to see the statistical evidence back up what we can see. Some of the other statistics are baffling to use. "Chances created" for example are based entirely on Luiz taking more shots especially free kicks from dangerous areas, something other no other CB really does. Yes, Luiz creates more chances, but he also took more shots than all the other CBs on the list combined and with a very poor success rate. (2 goals on 56 shots means you are taking far too many shots. Cahill, for example, had the same number of goals on 16 shots.) Like this previous omission the article conveniently ignores the biggest negative aspect of Luiz's game IMO which is that he tries to do too much offensively and is not efficient enough to justify it. Luiz had an 81% passing rate, easily the lowest on the list and a number that is very poor for a central defender. Kompany for example, had an 89% passing rate. Most of that difference comes from Luiz terrible percentage on long balls (55%, Kompany's for example was 73%)) which re-enforces those of us who believe that Luiz's game is much better when he keeps it simple and sticks as being a very good central defender instead of trying to run the attack. (Bad percentage shooter, bad percentage passer means a lot of turnovers for every positive result, way more than I would consider a good trade-off.) Nice and very objective post.Imo, Luiz yet has to improve in many areas of his game and at this moment he does not deserve to be put amongst the best central defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Nice and very objective post.Imo, Luiz yet has to improve in many areas of his game and at this moment he does not deserve to be put amongst the best central defenders.That depends... On requirements. For a team like Barcelona for example David would have to be considered top5 and I reckon #1. Many very solid defenders would never work in a high defense line setup for example.David was also a lot better than thiago silva in the conf cup against strong sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramox 246 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1520367/dani-alves-says-jose-mourinho-makes-barcelona-pursuit-david-luiz-impossible?cc=5739This idiot Alves is one of the most disgusting man on the earth. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Chelsea defender David Luiz has been strongly linked with a move to Barcelona, but the centre-back who is away on international duty with Brazil ahead of this week's friendly with Switzerland is refusing to talk about any possible switch to the Camp Nou. I will only talk about the national team because this is all I can think about when I come here, that's how I think. It was like this in Brazil during the Confederations Cup, and it will be like this here. You (press) can try everything but won't get anything from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishBlue 426 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Why couldn't he just deny going to Barca? Maybe he wants to leave for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 If he does, let him go. Considering it's apparently every players 'dream to play for Barcelona'...Laughable. I hope he doesn't though, Mourinho could turn him into something special rather than pairing up with Piqué and under the guidance of a man who has no experience in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8867429/transfer-news-chelseas-david-luiz-quiet-on-barcelona-linkReally think he is caught in two minds about this and are making his mind up. I hope he stays but if he go for top money it is fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Why couldn't he just deny going to Barca?Maybe he wants to leave for them.In fact its CBF modus operandi. Players cant talk about clubs and possible moves when they are with National Team. Terry stayed quite for 1 month, when City was trying to get him. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moros 86 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I don't believe he will go either. Really hopes he doesn't as well. He's our most gifted defender even though he may make some mistakes sometimes. But I think it will occur less and less, especially under Mou's guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 He owes us another season we stood by him when he was the laughing stock of the league, we lived with our hearts in our mouths when he played sometimes but we stood by him even when the fans began to turn on Torres, so for the support he got from us fans he owes us at least one really good season Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 "I will only talk about the national team because this is all I can think about when I come here, that's how I think," Luiz is quoted as saying by Globo Esporte."It was like this in Brazil during the Confederations Cup, and it will be like this here."You (the media) can try everything, but you won't get anything from me."- David LuizIf he would've stayed in Chelsea he would have said something like '' I am a Chelsea player and I remain as a Chelsea player.''I can see him going to Barca and IF he does then I have lost my respect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 "I will only talk about the national team because this is all I can think about when I come here, that's how I think," Luiz is quoted as saying by Globo Esporte."It was like this in Brazil during the Confederations Cup, and it will be like this here."You (the media) can try everything, but you won't get anything from me."- David LuizIf he would've stayed in Chelsea he would have said something like '' I am a Chelsea player and I remain as a Chelsea player.''I can see him going to Barca and IF he does then I have lost my respect for him.So, he already left? The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri3mChelsea have told today to David Luiz's agent that the price requested for the player is 50m €, according to tomorrow Mundo Deportivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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