xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 1) Subotic isn't world class.2) Luiz is worth a lot more.3) if Subotic would be the better option, why would Barca not want him instead of Luiz then?Subotic at the very least is better then luiz and luiz's style will suit barca a lot more maybe thats why they are after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Subotic at the very least is better then luiz and luiz's style will suit barca a lot more maybe thats why they are after him.This is down to opinion, but there is one piece of evidence we can always rely on: market value.And concerning Market Value, Chelsea paid Benfica 21m pounds for him.The fact that Luiz' style does not seem to suit Chelsea, and some fans' idea of what a defender should do, worries me. Not for Luiz mind you, but Chelsea and fans. It's as if having a simple robotic (no pun intended) defender is something to aim for, esp a side who's goal is Europe and not a wet pitch at Stoke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Chelsea didn't pay 21M for Luiz, they paid 21M and Matic who was probably worth around 3-5M. (he's a regular at Benfica and was just given a new contract). Luiz is probably our best central defender (especially with Terry's fitness still in question) but he's not elite and 25M or so for a defender is an enormous fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Chelsea didn't pay 21M for Luiz, they paid 21M and Matic who was probably worth around 3-5M. (he's a regular at Benfica and was just given a new contract). Luiz is probably our best central defender (especially with Terry's fitness still in question) but he's not elite and 25M or so for a defender is an enormous fee. You are right, Benfica confirmed that the total value was indeed 25m (value including Matic worth 4m).Interesting: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/david-luiz/mwverlaufgraph/spieler_46741.htmlThe fact that he can also play in midfield will further increase his market value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogzola 283 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 David neads to calm down with the aggression off the ball during games. I like agression but it needs to be controlled aggression. I like the guy and I like his playing style but I dont like the dirty antics. What he did to that Brentfod youngster should have been a red.IMO. And no im not one of these guys that doesnt like contact sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Some will say David needs to tone down the aggression but this is what's been missing at the DM position. This is why many were interested in acquiring an Etienne Capoue, a strong, aggressive tackler to break up opponents' build up and put some fear into them. Barca can fuck off even if they offer 30 million. Why do them any favors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Some will say David needs to tone down the aggression but this is what's been missing at the DM position. This is why many were interested in acquiring an Etienne Capoue, a strong, aggressive tackler to break up opponents' build up and put some fear into them. Barca can fuck off even if they offer 30 million. Why do them any favors? I get what you mean but still you don't want an over-aggressive player in the holding MF player as its easier to pick up bookings and give away needless fouls.Luiz still imo doesn't read the game as well as he could, still dives in when if he could read the situation, he'd probably not give a foul away or whatever. Still good to have him back, his distribution from CB/DM is impressive. Gives us more options and means we are able to rest Mikel/Lampard/Ramires more frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I loved him today when he was on the ball. Impressive passing range and actually showed some poise and was patient. Didn't panic like he was doing in midfield in his first few games there.Still get nervous when I see him charging down an opposing player like a freight train, though. It always just looks like he'll just run through a player without being able to stop himself. I cringe every time. That's one thing he needs to work on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Gino 377 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Viera and Keane were some of the most booked and are considered legends by their supporters. Dirty by others. Luiz had nothing to apologize about imo. Chelsea have lost that bruising, tough identity, made famous under Mourinho and it's nice to see someone bring it back. Mceachran and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted February 18, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted February 18, 2013 Viera and Keane were some of the most booked and are considered legends by their supporters. Dirty by others. Luiz had nothing to apologize about imo. Chelsea have lost that bruising, tough identity, made famous under Mourinho and it's nice to see someone bring it back.It was dirty and pointless. We were up 4-0 and the game was over. Keane was an incredibly dirty player. The Haland incident is one of the worst and Haland should have sued him for assault really. Being tough is good but it means tackling hard but clean. There's no place for that sort of shit. Luiz apologized like he should have and hopefully it will be a one-time thing. Everybody does stupid things. DJames, Liquidator, Amblève. and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'm surprised with his aggresivnes, he seems and from what I've seen is a really really nice guy and a kind soul of the pitch. Kicked ass in that midfield don't forget it was Brentford only though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 No-one's going to condone what he did, but isn't it nice to know he's got that bit of nastiness in him? It's something we've missed **cough**Mikel**cough** for so long and I think players need that in their locker, although using it on a lower division kid when we're 4-0 up is unnecessary.But next time Bale is running at him it might be in the back of his mind. Muzchap and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 No-one's going to condone what he did, but isn't it nice to know he's got that bit of nastiness in him? It's something we've missed **cough**Mikel**cough** for so long and I think players need that in their locker, although using it on a lower division kid when we're 4-0 up is unnecessary.But next time Bale is running at him it might be in the back of his mind.I love a bit of nastiness in players, especially defensive minded players. You need a bit of grit. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The Skipper and Sheva. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/david-luiz-im-not-fake-i-joke-around-to-get-the-best-out-of-people-8504636.html?origin=internalSearchAww David!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 FOBand FOF Ian wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I am not a big fan of luiz's defending even though on his day he can be brilliant but as a person i really admire luiz a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Linked with the Cunts and states he is happy they are interested in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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