Stingray 9,441 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Roman in my heroThat sound nasty somehow ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 That sound nasty somehow ...Oh it should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Roman has become a father for the 7th time. His wife gave birth to a baby girl.Congratulations Mr. Boss. 7th??? My boy likes to get it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I'm not saying he will, just that he could. And even if he does want to sell, what do you think is more attractive to businessman wanting to make an investment: a club with half a billion pounds debt to the previous owner or a club with almost no debt? It's not as black and white as that... Even with the debt, Chelsea remain one of the biggest money making football clubs on the planet. Roman would be stupid to walk away and call in his debt, which would take years to be paid back, court etc. than just selling the club off for a huge amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 And I don't think people realize either that should he decide to leave one day, how much the club will owe him money. That's why some people actually care about how much we spend because the more profit we as a club make the less we owe Roman money. Yes we can spend 150m for two players in the market right now through Roman's money, and we can probably even still by pass FFP rules while doing it, but if he ever decides to pick up and leave, we will be in shitload of trouble. He can't just leave, he will have to sell and now we have established ourself as a global brand their will be big interest.The way we could get introuble is if we end up with owners like Hicks+Gillett, and given the way Roman is even bashed by supporters (especially after the RDM sacking) i would stay away from SW6 for my own safety if that ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 It's not as black and white as that... Even with the debt, Chelsea remain one of the biggest money making football clubs on the planet. Roman would be stupid to walk away and call in his debt, which would take years to be paid back, court etc. than just selling the club off for a huge amount of money.Just assume for the sake of discussion that Roman decides one day that he does not want to own a football club anymore, what business man wants to come buy a club that is constantly losing money unless, like Roman, he has love for the sport and has a couple of billions he does not need? I'm not saying that Roman is leaving tomorrow. But in fact, if the club does start to spend more wisely and actually start making money, or at least not losing, that will make it much more likely that Roman actually stays for a very long time because he would have absolutely no reason to sell a club that is making him money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 He can't just leave, he will have to sell and now we have established ourself as a global brand their will be big interest.The way we could get introuble is if we end up with owners like Hicks+Gillett, and given the way Roman is even bashed by supporters (especially after the RDM sacking) i would stay away from SW6 for my own safety if that ever happened.The thing is, practically, we as a club, owe Roman no money. All the money we spend are loans from an intermediate company he's set up. So he can leave and we as a club would still owe his company A LOT of money.That is at leats my understanding of the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 The thing is, practically, we as a club, owe Roman no money. All the money we spend are loans from an intermediate company he's set up. So he can leave and we as a club would still owe his company A LOT of money.That is at leats my understanding of the matter. Really i thought it was the other way around. That we ,Chelsea, don't owe Roman any money but that the intermediate company owes the money to Roman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Just assume for the sake of discussion that Roman decides one day that he does not want to own a football club anymore, what business man wants to come buy a club that is constantly losing money unless, like Roman, he has love for the sport and has a couple of billions he does not need? I'm not saying that Roman is leaving tomorrow. But in fact, if the club does start to spend more wisely and actually start making money, or at least not losing, that will make it much more likely that Roman actually stays for a very long time because he would have absolutely no reason to sell a club that is making him money.There are a lot of richer people than Roman around. There will be a lot of people interested in the CFC brand and they'll use that to potentially promote their business just like the Sheikhs do with their constant promotion of Etihad through City. Even a shrewd business man who has a decent amount to spend would look at a club who bring in £200m+ of revenue every year. As I've said before - Roman would be dumb to just walk away without even selling Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Really i thought it was the other way around. That we ,Chelsea, don't owe Roman any money but that the intermediate company owes the money to Roman.No I'm pretty sure about that part. We owe Roman no money but we owe a lot of it to the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 There are a lot of richer people than Roman around. There will be a lot of people interested in the CFC brand and they'll use that to potentially promote their business just like the Sheikhs do with their constant promotion of Etihad through City. Even a shrewd business man who has a decent amount to spend would look at a club who bring in £200m+ of revenue every year.As I've said before - Roman would be dumb to just walk away without even selling Chelsea.I"m not saying that he would, just that we would be in a better position if we did not lose money every year. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I"m not saying that he would, just that we would be in a better position if we did not lose money every year. Hence why Gourlay has been busy getting us partnering with other business companies AND having more (draining) pre and post season friendlies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Hence why Gourlay has been busy getting us partnering with other business companies AND having more (draining) pre and post season friendlies!Yes the board has done very well in the past couple of years in terms of sponsorship deals (though I can't see how you could credit Gourlay alone). But all that would count for very little if we don't change our transfer policies. We've seen glimpses of that change with signings like Moses, Romeu and Azpi, but this window has been alarming so far with the signing of Schurrle for 23m and our reported interest in paying 50m for Cavani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Yes the board has done very well in the past couple of years in terms of sponsorship deals (though I can't see how you could credit Gourlay alone). But all that would count for very little if we don't change our transfer policies. We've seen glimpses of that change with signings like Moses, Romeu and Azpi, but this window has been alarming so far with the signing of Schurrle for 23m and our reported interest in paying 50m for Cavani. Guess if we want to spend big, now it's the time to do it when the FFP has not necessarily kicked in to full effect yet. We have already got a young and talented squad that will develop and drive the club forward to more success in many years ahead. Unless we have 1-2 players leaving then, then we don't really have to spend big in any way then. It's just that at this moment, we still need some quality reinforcements, which invariably will cost a bit. Also, it does look like we are in better place than the Manchester clubs and others in the league in terms of having young talented players that will become better and dominate the league in the future. Both look like they will have to continue buying players while we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Guess if we want to spend big, now it's the time to do it when the FFP has not necessarily kicked in to full effect yet. We have already got a young and talented squad that will develop and drive the club forward to more success in many years ahead. Unless we have 1-2 players leaving then, then we don't really have to spend big in any way then. It's just that at this moment, we still need some quality reinforcements, which invariably will cost a bit. Also, it does look like we are in better place than the Manchester clubs and others in the league in terms of having young talented players that will become better and dominate the league in the future. Both look like they will have to continue buying players while we don't.That's why I did not mention the signings of Hazard and Mata and such because those signings were necessary. But spending big does not always mean getting better quality. I don't want to get into the Schurrle discussion here, but I think we can all agree that we could have someone similar to him in may be half the price. And spending 60m on one player is just ridiculous. That is what I mean with change of transfer policy, I'm not saying we should become Everton and never spend more than 10m, just that for every Mata there should be an Azpi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRECHO 432 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 UEFA give Gill power to punish United's rivals... if they fall foul of financial fair playhttp://www.7msport.com/news/newsdata/20130618/89653.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 LOLOLOLOur president Shimon Peres celebrates his 90th birthday today in a huge event in Israel with lots of the worlds leaders, celebrities and such, and guess who also came?Our own Roman! Just saw him on the news, they said "as alwyas, he didnt gave an interview".His wife is gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 OMG!!!!11! i cant belive what i just sawHe just stole the reporter's mic and said "Cavani is done deal bitches!!!"oh roman.. what a legend. thank you very much sir. Thendo, 11Drogba, Blue Roar and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRECHO 432 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 OMG!!!!11! i cant belive what i just sawHe just stole the reporter's mic and said "Cavani is done deal bitches!!!"oh roman.. what a legend. thank you very much sir.Really ? . which channel Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Really ? . which channelMan seriously He's winding you up.. Roman ain't doing that this Israeli guy has staked his world on Cavanni coming - so he's desperate now Even Mosad have given up on him nadavTKL, Heisenberg and Duppy Conqueror 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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