Vesper 30,195 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: That, according to Peter Kenyon, is what Roman said would eventually happen when he bought the club in 2003. I think a lot of our horrific decisions have come from Arkadiy whispering in daddy's ear and then daddy pulling the board puppet strings Also, in 2003 Roman would have had no idea that in 2019 he would be a globally sanctioned/targeted figure over Putin and have had his net wealth drop from around a 22bn to 25bn high to around 8bn or 9bn, and have been chased out of the UK, and would have pulled the plug on a new stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 18 hours ago, Vesper said: I think a lot of our horrific decisions have come from Arkadiy whispering in daddy's ear and then daddy pulling the board puppet strings Also, in 2003 Roman would have had no idea that in 2019 he would be a globally sanctioned/targeted figure over Putin and have had his net wealth drop from around a 22bn to 25bn high to around 8bn or 9bn, and have been chased out of the UK, and would have pulled the plug on a new stadium Kenyon originally said that Roman's plan was for the transfer to happen in 'ten years'. I can't see how he could have meant that literally but I've long believed that Arkadiy is involved in transfer decisions. In that first summer of heady spending, Bruce Buck made what could have been taken as a throwaway comment but which I think gave a good clue about the owner. Bruce, in an effort to talk Roman up, stated that the owner had a huge database and an encyclopaedic knowledge of players. He claimed that no matter who you mentioned from around the world, Roman could tell you something about that player. Roman certainly had the money to employ people to put together such a database if he wished, but why would he have bothered? The database was obviously Football Manager and a strong knowledge of its contents must mean that Roman enjoyed the game and spent some time playing it. How many of us could have resisted the temptation to play the game for real if we had the dosh? Not me, that's for sure. Also, why not bond with your lad and play your favourite game together? Complete guesswork I accept, but I do think Arkadiy is involved. One thing which I will never be persuaded to accept, outside of absolute evidence, is the notion that Marina plays any part whatsoever in selecting transfer targets. Giving an opinion on how much can be afforded as a recruitment cost, for sure; making a football decision on player x is better for the squad than player y, never in a million years. As for the stadium, we have been prisoners of our location and of the granite like conservatism of football fans. The best thing for the club was, and still is, a move away from Stamford Bridge but the range of options for that move is too small to allow any suitable site to be found. If we fans were more far-sighted the club may be able to widen the search and find that elusive site. CFC's inability to get this done is something our successors as Blues' fans may well live to regret in coming decades. Superblue, Vesper, manpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Sir Jim Ratcliffe may bid for Chelsea next after striking deal to sponsor Team Sky https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sir-jim-ratcliffe-may-bid-for-chelsea-next-after-striking-deal-to-sponsor-team-sky-0zrmlrv72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, the wes said: Sir Jim Ratcliffe may bid for Chelsea next after striking deal to sponsor Team Sky https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sir-jim-ratcliffe-may-bid-for-chelsea-next-after-striking-deal-to-sponsor-team-sky-0zrmlrv72 Can anyone shed some light on Jim Ratcliffe? Like what exactly is he all about? He seems pretty determined to buy us going by reports in recent months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Can anyone shed some light on Jim Ratcliffe? Like what exactly is he all about? He seems pretty determined to buy us going by reports in recent months. According to some reports he's a season ticket holder at Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, the wes said: According to some reports he's a season ticket holder at Chelsea Okay but is he shady person or someone who can be trusted etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jason said: Okay but is he shady person or someone who can be trusted etc? There's some info about him https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6715343/MPs-lead-fury-UKs-richest-man-Sir-Jim-Ratcliffe-heads-Monaco-avoid-4bn-tax.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, the wes said: Sir Jim Ratcliffe may bid for Chelsea next after striking deal to sponsor Team Sky https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sir-jim-ratcliffe-may-bid-for-chelsea-next-after-striking-deal-to-sponsor-team-sky-0zrmlrv72 Hard to believe he can buy us if he isn't willing to pay over 2.5b as the article mention. Roman would like to get all his money back and profit I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, the wes said: There's some info about him https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6715343/MPs-lead-fury-UKs-richest-man-Sir-Jim-Ratcliffe-heads-Monaco-avoid-4bn-tax.html That isn't shady at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Is 22 billion enough money ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, cosmicway said: Is 22 billion enough money ? Yes Jim Radcliffe richer than Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Jason said: Okay but is he shady person or someone who can be trusted etc? Strange question. Not a single person greedy enough to own billions can be trusted. I don't believe there is a single billionaire in world history who is honest and hasn't broken any laws. BlueSunshine, robsblubot and Unionjack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, manpe said: Strange question. Not a single person greedy enough to own billions can be trusted. I don't believe there is a single billionaire in world history who is honest and hasn't broken any laws. Have faith in humanity, manpe. Laylabelle and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, manpe said: Strange question. Not a single person greedy enough to own billions can be trusted. I don't believe there is a single billionaire in world history who is honest and hasn't broken any laws. Charlie Chester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, cosmicway said: Charlie Chester Don't know who that is Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, manpe said: Strange question. Not a single person greedy enough to own billions can be trusted. I don't believe there is a single billionaire in world history who is honest and hasn't broken any laws. Thats true Jim Radcliffe move to Monaco to save himself a £4b tax bill in England thats the reason why some people are billionaires cause they are smart with their money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I'd welcome the idea. He being English is a big part of it. Is he a fan? Would be a beautiful sight seeing him come in the first day, and the likes of Marinia and co leaving the club with boxes that have their personal belongings. I'd pay to see that. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 4:40 PM, manpe said: Don't know who that is He would fit in well mate. Old time variety hall comedia/actorn even before my time! Cant find owt of him 'acting' On 3/19/2019 at 4:25 PM, manpe said: Strange question. Not a single person greedy enough to own billions can be trusted. I don't believe there is a single billionaire in world history who is honest and hasn't broken any laws. I agree mate. I've never met anyone who was self made that didn't bend as many rules as they could to breaking point. but maybe that says more about commercialism than peeps morals. I thank Roman for what we have done together and would like to see him become more involved and back in the stands. But it might just be time to start fresh with EVERYTHING. From the top down. I'd like to see us goto someone who is already a large sports club owner with the experience of taking a broken club apart and rebuild them WHOEVER that may be! Billionaire Abramovich dumps Russian assets in preparation for sanctions The billionaire Roman Abramovich, who was blacklisted by the US in April last year, had his British visa revoked and was forced to acquire an Israeli passport in the summer, has systematically been selling off his Russian assets. On 7 March, Abramovich, the 11th wealthiest person in Russia with $10.8 billion, sold the Russian bank VTB his 20% share in Channel One that he had owned since the early 2000s, after acquiring a package of shares from Boris Berezovsky. One week later, on 13 March, Abramovich’s Crispian Investments fund disposed of 2.7 million shares of Nornickel – 1.7% of the company’s capital. The deal was done through an accelerated collection of bids, and the securities were dumped on the market at a 7.5% discount to the market price. Another five days later, on Monday 18 March, it was learned that Abramovich had decided to sell 0.8% of his primary asset – the metallurgical and mining company Evraz. Abramovich’s offshore fund Greenleas International Holdings Ltd., Alexander Abramov’s Abiglaze Ltd., Alexander Frolov’s Crosland Global Ltd. and Toshi Holdings Ltd. announced on the London Stock Exchange website that they intend to sell 25.4 million Evraz shares (1.8%). Abramovich’s company will account for 42.25% of the shares being sold. As with Nornickel, the deal will take place through an accelerated collection of bids. The placement will be organized by Citigroup Global Markets Ltd., Credit Suisse Securities and UBS Europe. The sellers must undertake not to sell any more Evraz shares for 60 days after the deal. At present, Abramovich holds 30.5% of Evraz shares, Abramovich holds 20.69% and Frolov has 10.33%. It is possible that the billionaire is preparing for US sanctions by getting rid of assets linked to the Kremlin (e.g. Channel One). Abramovich may also be trying to withdraw from his position as a major stakeholder in Evraz, an analyst from a major rating agency believes. However, it is not impossible that the oligarch has simply decided to cash out on shares while Evraz’s results are good and there is a large demand for its stocks, he notes. On the other hand, the three consecutive deals to sell Russian assets do not make this option likely. The hard cash at Abramovich’s disposal is needed by the Kremlin. RBC reported in December that the president’s administration has considered the billionaire and Evraz as a source of funding for the construction of the Moscow-Kazan high-speed railway. His funds will be used to fill in the financing gap for the railway project, which has been rejected by Chinese investors twice in the last three years. Russian Railways estimates that the project will cost 1.7 trillion rubles. The government is prepared to provide 700 billion from the federal budget, but around 1 trillion rubles ($15 billion) will need to come from other financing sources. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 10:25 AM, manpe said: Strange question. Not a single person greedy enough to own billions can be trusted. I don't believe there is a single billionaire in world history who is honest and hasn't broken any laws. Agreed, but they can't break the laws when the laws are written by them and for them, can they? Can you have democracy when billionaires (includes companies and groups) exert far more influence in the political system than the voting population? Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueblue9877 6 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I don't know why people are so obsessed with claiming that Roman has lost interest, he literally can't enter the country if he wanted to because of political reasons, just seems like fans who are angry that we aren't breaking the transfer record every other season that want him to go and for the club to be sold imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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