Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 9, 2014 And never under estimate the part of corporate media propaganda to keep spinning their agenda :''The recent blanket coverage afforded to the brutal killing of three Israeli teenagers highlights this immutable fact. Major broadcasters, such as BBC News, devoted headlines and extended reports to the deaths, and included heart-rending interviews with grieving relatives in Israel. The Guardian ran live coverage of the funerals for more than nine hours. But when has this ever happened for Palestinian victims of Israeli terror??When has the BBC ever expressed this level of concern for the deaths of Palestinian teenagers? The question matters because consistent empathic bias has the effect of humanising Israelis for the public and dehumanising Palestinians. This is an extremely lethal form of media propaganda with real consequences for human suffering.'' This enforces the labels given above-savages, and generally making Palestinian deaths worth less than Israelis.http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/770-some-deaths-really-matter-the-disproportionate-coverage-of-israeli-and-palestinian-killings.htmlThe propaganda has always been their strongest weapon. How many people in the west know the history of Israel and Palestine? Most think that Hamas is the same as Al Qaeda and that the resistance are only some religious extremists when in fact, throughout most of the Arab world, the secular parties were the first to resist and the right wing religious parties were the traitors. EBH, Mohammed Seif, Dion and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The propaganda has always been their strongest weapon. How many people in the west know the history of Israel and Palestine? Most think that Hamas is the same as Al Qaeda and that the resistance are only some religious extremists when in fact, throughout most of the Arab world, the secular parties were the first to resist and the right wing religious parties were the traitors. First off, I'm neither Pro-Isreal or Pro-Palestine.I can say that I do. And are you saying HAMAS is secular? Have you heard of the TV show "Tomorrow's pioneers?" and the mass indoctrination that goes on in Palestine? The more and more you dig into it, the more you realize it has less to do with politics and more to do with religion. That's the bitter pill I had to swallow. The problem is that you speak of propaganda but the reality is that there is a great deal of propaganda from BOTH sides even more so from the Palestinian side. How is it possible to even discuss the issue when there is so much vested interest towards the Palestinians on your part.Speaking of propaganda, a lot of those pictures circulating twitter are old photos of completely unrelated tragedies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ About the pictures.http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/09/More-False-Images-Hamas-Use-on-Social-Media-Against-Israel/ CFC_4EVER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Exactly the contrary, there is a war going on and you think you will get anywhere by discussing on a football forum?It was good 2-3 pages ago, now both sides are just repeating themselves over and over again. It is quite boring to read! Rmpr, that's not fair. this discussion isn't hostile or anything. It might be on a football forum, but that doesn't mean the forum is limited to football. If it's 'boring' then don't read it?I find this more educational than boring, seeing both point of views without members getting personal. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBH 283 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 "We know there are less rich than poor. That's the entire basis of capitalism. There's only a finite amount of money in the economy: if you have more of it, that means that others have less." lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 No, I'm saying it is VERY clear to anyone who sees that who is the oppressor between the two sides and who is terrorizing who. In fact, just by looking at the types of weapons, any sane person can deduce who the criminals are and who are the people trying to defend what little remains from their basic rights for life with what little they have.I've said before, I do not wish to discuss this with you, so don't quote me again, please. That is false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 10, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 10, 2014 One side allegedly has ;Antiquated Antiaircraft Missiles and RocketsKalashnikov Guns & StonesAnother gets stuff supplied from the US :Small armsDror light machine gunIMI Negev light machine gunUzi submachine gunUzi pistolDesert Eagle pistolJericho 941 pistolBUL M-5 pistolBUL Storm pistolSP-21 Barak pistolIMI Galil assault rifleIMI Tavor assault rifleM89SR sniper rifleHezi SM-1 semi-automatic PDWAnti-tank rockets and missilesMATADOR Shoulder-launched missile weaponB-300 Shoulder-launched missile weaponShoulder-Launched Multipurpose Assault WeaponShipon Shoulder-launched missile weaponFGM-172 SRAWMAPATS ATGMSpike ATGMLAHAT ATGMNimrod ATGMOther missilesGuided Advanced Tactical Rocket - LaserShafrir air-to-air missileDerby air-to-air missilePython air-to-air missileGabriel naval anti-ship missileADM-141 TALDPopeye AGM-142 air-to-surface missileDelilah cruise missile / anti-radiation missileLORA theater ballistic missileJericho medium-range ballistic missileAircraftIAI Arava cargo aircraftIAI Sea Scan surveillance aircraftIAI Nesher fighter aircraftIAI Kfir fighter aircraftIAI Namer fighter aircraftIAI Lavi fighter aircraftATG Javelin jet trainer aircraftWatercraftShaldag class fast patrol boatDabur class patrol boatDvora class fast patrol boatSuper Dvora Mk II class fast patrol boatSuper Dvora Mk III class fast patrol boatSa'ar 3-class missile boatSa'ar 4-class missile boatSa'ar 4.5-class missile boatSa'ar 5-class corvetteGal class submarineDolphin class submarineSpaceflightShavit spaceflight launch vehicleEROS earth observation satelliteOfeq reconnaissance satelliteTecSAR reconnaissance satelliteWeapon stationsCornerShot SWAT weaponRafael Overhead Weapon StationSamson Remote Controlled Weapon StationTyphoon Weapon SystemActive protection systemsTrophy active protection systemIron Fist active protection systemFlight Guard airborne IR countermeasures systemRadarsEL/M-2032 fire-control radarEL/M-2052 AESA radarEL/M-2075 Phalcon AEW&C radarEL/M-2080 Green Pine target tracking radarEL/M-2083 AEW&C radarOptronicsITL MARS reflex sightLITENING targeting podSpice EO-GPS PGM guidance kitSkystar 300 ISR systemTanksIsherman tankSho't tankMagach tankSabra tankMerkava tankFighting vehiclesM113 variantsNimda Shoet APCTrail Blazer ARVIDF Nagmachon APCIDF Nakpadon CEVIDF Puma CEVIDF Achzarit APCIDF Namer IFVNemmera ARVAIL AbirAIL StormPlasan Sand CatWolf Armoured VehicleGolan Armored VehicleArtilleryDavidka mortarSoltam M-66 mortarSoltam M-68 howitzerSoltam M-71 howitzerSoltam M-120 mortarL-33/39 Ro'em self-propelled howitzerMakmat self-propelled mortarMAR-240/290 rocket artillery launcherLAR-160 rocket artillery launcherLAROM rocket artillery launcherCardom mortarRascal self-propelled howitzerATMOS 2000 self-propelled howitzerSholef self-propelled howitzerUnmanned aerial vehiclesTadiran Mastiff UAVCasper 250 UAVSilver Arrow Micro-V UAVSilver Arrow Sniper UAVIAI Scout UAVIAI Searcher UAVIAI Harpy UAVIAI Harop UAVIAI Bird-Eye UAVIAI I-View UAVIAI Ranger UAVIAI Heron UAVIAI Eitan UAVIAI Panther UAVIAI RQ-2 Pioneer UAVIAI RQ-5 Hunter UAVElbit Skylark UAVElbit Hermes 90 UAVElbit Hermes 450 UAVElbit Hermes 900 UAVAeronautics Dominator UAVAeronautics Orbiter UAVUrban Aeronautics X-Hawk UAVUnmanned surface vehiclesVIPeR UGCVProtector USVGuardium UGVRaam HaShachar unmanned Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozerAir-defense systemsMachbet self-propelled anti-aircraft weaponBarak 1 naval surface-to-air missileBarak 8 naval surface-to-air missileSPYDER air-defense systemArrow anti-ballistic missileTactical High Energy LaserIron Dome short-range rocket defense systemDavid's Sling medium-range rocket defense systemMiscellaneousMitznefet helmet camouflageTomcar all-terrain vehicleMG251/253 smoothbore tank gunKilshon anti-radiation missile launcherIDF Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozerSkunk riot control agentScream riot control agentSIMON breach grenadeEnhanced Tactical ComputerNuclear Weapons Stingray, Dion, Mohammed Seif and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 One side allegedly has ;Antiquated Antiaircraft Missiles and RocketsKalashnikov Guns & StonesAnother gets stuff supplied from the US :Small armsDror light machine gunIMI Negev light machine gunUzi submachine gunUzi pistolDesert Eagle pistolJericho 941 pistolBUL M-5 pistolBUL Storm pistolSP-21 Barak pistolIMI Galil assault rifleIMI Tavor assault rifleM89SR sniper rifleHezi SM-1 semi-automatic PDWAnti-tank rockets and missilesMATADOR Shoulder-launched missile weaponB-300 Shoulder-launched missile weaponShoulder-Launched Multipurpose Assault WeaponShipon Shoulder-launched missile weaponFGM-172 SRAWMAPATS ATGMSpike ATGMLAHAT ATGMNimrod ATGMOther missilesGuided Advanced Tactical Rocket - LaserShafrir air-to-air missileDerby air-to-air missilePython air-to-air missileGabriel naval anti-ship missileADM-141 TALDPopeye AGM-142 air-to-surface missileDelilah cruise missile / anti-radiation missileLORA theater ballistic missileJericho medium-range ballistic missileAircraftIAI Arava cargo aircraftIAI Sea Scan surveillance aircraftIAI Nesher fighter aircraftIAI Kfir fighter aircraftIAI Namer fighter aircraftIAI Lavi fighter aircraftATG Javelin jet trainer aircraftWatercraftShaldag class fast patrol boatDabur class patrol boatDvora class fast patrol boatSuper Dvora Mk II class fast patrol boatSuper Dvora Mk III class fast patrol boatSa'ar 3-class missile boatSa'ar 4-class missile boatSa'ar 4.5-class missile boatSa'ar 5-class corvetteGal class submarineDolphin class submarineSpaceflightShavit spaceflight launch vehicleEROS earth observation satelliteOfeq reconnaissance satelliteTecSAR reconnaissance satelliteWeapon stationsCornerShot SWAT weaponRafael Overhead Weapon StationSamson Remote Controlled Weapon StationTyphoon Weapon SystemActive protection systemsTrophy active protection systemIron Fist active protection systemFlight Guard airborne IR countermeasures systemRadarsEL/M-2032 fire-control radarEL/M-2052 AESA radarEL/M-2075 Phalcon AEW&C radarEL/M-2080 Green Pine target tracking radarEL/M-2083 AEW&C radarOptronicsITL MARS reflex sightLITENING targeting podSpice EO-GPS PGM guidance kitSkystar 300 ISR systemTanksIsherman tankSho't tankMagach tankSabra tankMerkava tankFighting vehiclesM113 variantsNimda Shoet APCTrail Blazer ARVIDF Nagmachon APCIDF Nakpadon CEVIDF Puma CEVIDF Achzarit APCIDF Namer IFVNemmera ARVAIL AbirAIL StormPlasan Sand CatWolf Armoured VehicleGolan Armored VehicleArtilleryDavidka mortarSoltam M-66 mortarSoltam M-68 howitzerSoltam M-71 howitzerSoltam M-120 mortarL-33/39 Ro'em self-propelled howitzerMakmat self-propelled mortarMAR-240/290 rocket artillery launcherLAR-160 rocket artillery launcherLAROM rocket artillery launcherCardom mortarRascal self-propelled howitzerATMOS 2000 self-propelled howitzerSholef self-propelled howitzerUnmanned aerial vehiclesTadiran Mastiff UAVCasper 250 UAVSilver Arrow Micro-V UAVSilver Arrow Sniper UAVIAI Scout UAVIAI Searcher UAVIAI Harpy UAVIAI Harop UAVIAI Bird-Eye UAVIAI I-View UAVIAI Ranger UAVIAI Heron UAVIAI Eitan UAVIAI Panther UAVIAI RQ-2 Pioneer UAVIAI RQ-5 Hunter UAVElbit Skylark UAVElbit Hermes 90 UAVElbit Hermes 450 UAVElbit Hermes 900 UAVAeronautics Dominator UAVAeronautics Orbiter UAVUrban Aeronautics X-Hawk UAVUnmanned surface vehiclesVIPeR UGCVProtector USVGuardium UGVRaam HaShachar unmanned Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozerAir-defense systemsMachbet self-propelled anti-aircraft weaponBarak 1 naval surface-to-air missileBarak 8 naval surface-to-air missileSPYDER air-defense systemArrow anti-ballistic missileTactical High Energy LaserIron Dome short-range rocket defense systemDavid's Sling medium-range rocket defense systemMiscellaneousMitznefet helmet camouflageTomcar all-terrain vehicleMG251/253 smoothbore tank gunKilshon anti-radiation missile launcherIDF Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozerSkunk riot control agentScream riot control agentSIMON breach grenadeEnhanced Tactical ComputerNuclear WeaponsWoopsie ... Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 First off, I'm neither Pro-Isreal or Pro-Palestine.I can say that I do. And are you saying HAMAS is secular? Have you heard of the TV show "Tomorrow's pioneers?" and the mass indoctrination that goes on in Palestine? The more and more you dig into it, the more you realize it has less to do with politics and more to do with religion. That's the bitter pill I had to swallow. The problem is that you speak of propaganda but the reality is that there is a great deal of propaganda from BOTH sides even more so from the Palestinian side. How is it possible to even discuss the issue when there is so much vested interest towards the Palestinians on your part.Speaking of propaganda, a lot of those pictures circulating twitter are old photos of completely unrelated tragedies. Of course Hamas aren't secular! I said that the first to resist were mostly the secular parties. For example, in Lebanon it was the communist party and the SSNP, in Palestine it was Fateh and the "Public Front" (that doesn't translate too well from Arabic lol). But since the 80s, the region has an increasing religious prominence due to many reasons, including the global religious trend worldwide, the failure of the secular parties, Israel itself (religious extremism creates opposing religious extremism), the Islamic revolution in Iran, the planing and funding by the UK, the US then KSA and most recently Qatar of extremists groups (not talking about funding just for weapons, but funding for the Sheikhs to spread this ideology)...etc. But, NO, the struggle is no way about religion. I can tell you from experience, in Lebanon, the people who died fighting Israel are from all religions and sects.Yes, of course there are propaganda from both sides. The pictures are absolutely disgraceful and disgusting. Even the ones from this attack. To shown the corpse of a child to get "western support" is highly unethical, insulting to the victim and his family, and dehumanizing for all of us. Not to mention that it ends up hurting the Palestinian cause. But that doesn't stop the fact that there are children being killed but the Israeli air-strikes. More than 30 of the 75 martyrs (number has risen to 81, now) are women and children, including 4 infants. The main targets for the airstrikes has been civilian homes.But, like everything in this 'struggle', the power of the propaganda is completely lob-sided. What do the Palestinians have? Some twitter and Facebook accounts and a few websites where they post pictures that, as you pointed out, anyone with some knowledge of the region and half a brain cell can tell are mostly from a previous time or from Syria. They certainly don't have the backing of the Arabic media. Right now, you'll hear more about this in Western media outlets than in Arabic ones which just mention the latest 'score' of martyrs like it's some basketball match being reported on. On the other side, the Israelis have considerable power over the major media sources in the world. Decades and decades of biased coverage of the facts to all who live in Europe and US and most of the world for that matter. The message is that Israelis are people just like you. Palestinians are barbaric animals that want to destroy your scared places in Jerusalem.If you really know the history of Palestine and Israel, then great, but that really makes one of the minorities. Not even we here in Lebanon are taught that history in schools. I don't think it is taught anywhere in the Arab world. You need genuine interest and deep research to know how everything came to be as it is now. Mohammed Seif and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 One side allegedly has ;Antiquated Antiaircraft Missiles and RocketsKalashnikov Guns & StonesAnother gets stuff supplied from the US :Small armsDror light machine gunIMI Negev light machine gunUzi submachine gunUzi pistolDesert Eagle pistolJericho 941 pistolBUL M-5 pistolBUL Storm pistolSP-21 Barak pistolIMI Galil assault rifleIMI Tavor assault rifleM89SR sniper rifleHezi SM-1 semi-automatic PDWAnti-tank rockets and missilesMATADOR Shoulder-launched missile weaponB-300 Shoulder-launched missile weaponShoulder-Launched Multipurpose Assault WeaponShipon Shoulder-launched missile weaponFGM-172 SRAWMAPATS ATGMSpike ATGMLAHAT ATGMNimrod ATGMOther missilesGuided Advanced Tactical Rocket - LaserShafrir air-to-air missileDerby air-to-air missilePython air-to-air missileGabriel naval anti-ship missileADM-141 TALDPopeye AGM-142 air-to-surface missileDelilah cruise missile / anti-radiation missileLORA theater ballistic missileJericho medium-range ballistic missileAircraftIAI Arava cargo aircraftIAI Sea Scan surveillance aircraftIAI Nesher fighter aircraftIAI Kfir fighter aircraftIAI Namer fighter aircraftIAI Lavi fighter aircraftATG Javelin jet trainer aircraftWatercraftShaldag class fast patrol boatDabur class patrol boatDvora class fast patrol boatSuper Dvora Mk II class fast patrol boatSuper Dvora Mk III class fast patrol boatSa'ar 3-class missile boatSa'ar 4-class missile boatSa'ar 4.5-class missile boatSa'ar 5-class corvetteGal class submarineDolphin class submarineSpaceflightShavit spaceflight launch vehicleEROS earth observation satelliteOfeq reconnaissance satelliteTecSAR reconnaissance satelliteWeapon stationsCornerShot SWAT weaponRafael Overhead Weapon StationSamson Remote Controlled Weapon StationTyphoon Weapon SystemActive protection systemsTrophy active protection systemIron Fist active protection systemFlight Guard airborne IR countermeasures systemRadarsEL/M-2032 fire-control radarEL/M-2052 AESA radarEL/M-2075 Phalcon AEW&C radarEL/M-2080 Green Pine target tracking radarEL/M-2083 AEW&C radarOptronicsITL MARS reflex sightLITENING targeting podSpice EO-GPS PGM guidance kitSkystar 300 ISR systemTanksIsherman tankSho't tankMagach tankSabra tankMerkava tankFighting vehiclesM113 variantsNimda Shoet APCTrail Blazer ARVIDF Nagmachon APCIDF Nakpadon CEVIDF Puma CEVIDF Achzarit APCIDF Namer IFVNemmera ARVAIL AbirAIL StormPlasan Sand CatWolf Armoured VehicleGolan Armored VehicleArtilleryDavidka mortarSoltam M-66 mortarSoltam M-68 howitzerSoltam M-71 howitzerSoltam M-120 mortarL-33/39 Ro'em self-propelled howitzerMakmat self-propelled mortarMAR-240/290 rocket artillery launcherLAR-160 rocket artillery launcherLAROM rocket artillery launcherCardom mortarRascal self-propelled howitzerATMOS 2000 self-propelled howitzerSholef self-propelled howitzerUnmanned aerial vehiclesTadiran Mastiff UAVCasper 250 UAVSilver Arrow Micro-V UAVSilver Arrow Sniper UAVIAI Scout UAVIAI Searcher UAVIAI Harpy UAVIAI Harop UAVIAI Bird-Eye UAVIAI I-View UAVIAI Ranger UAVIAI Heron UAVIAI Eitan UAVIAI Panther UAVIAI RQ-2 Pioneer UAVIAI RQ-5 Hunter UAVElbit Skylark UAVElbit Hermes 90 UAVElbit Hermes 450 UAVElbit Hermes 900 UAVAeronautics Dominator UAVAeronautics Orbiter UAVUrban Aeronautics X-Hawk UAVUnmanned surface vehiclesVIPeR UGCVProtector USVGuardium UGVRaam HaShachar unmanned Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozerAir-defense systemsMachbet self-propelled anti-aircraft weaponBarak 1 naval surface-to-air missileBarak 8 naval surface-to-air missileSPYDER air-defense systemArrow anti-ballistic missileTactical High Energy LaserIron Dome short-range rocket defense systemDavid's Sling medium-range rocket defense systemMiscellaneousMitznefet helmet camouflageTomcar all-terrain vehicleMG251/253 smoothbore tank gunKilshon anti-radiation missile launcherIDF Caterpillar D9 armored bulldozerSkunk riot control agentScream riot control agentSIMON breach grenadeEnhanced Tactical ComputerNuclear WeaponsAgain, what is your point?? CFC_4EVER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Again, what is your point??Well it seems silly when the corporate media call it a 'war'. Still I suppose it keeps the arms manufacturers shareholders happy in the US with nice dividends. CHOULO19, Mohammed Seif, Kieran. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Well it seems silly when the corporate media call it a 'war'. Still I suppose it keeps the arms manufacturers shareholders happy in the US with nice dividends.Also helps the Republicans for the next elections, as their foreign policy depends in striking fear of security on the American public. And fear sells very well Kieran., Fulham Broadway and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Also helps the Republicans for the next elections, as their foreign policy depends in striking fear of security on the American public. And fear sells very well Too right. Ok lets look at the UK my country for a minute. The government have just rushed through some immediate legislation that makes all communication companies keep all communications between people, and accessible to the government. These are texts, phone calls, and all social media. The reason cited ? Fighting "terror". For fucks sake they must think we're stupid. There is another spin off of fear if they can make their populace scared of an unseen enemy, for governments. Studies have shown people actually consume more in a state of fear. Mohammed Seif, The Skipper and Kieran. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Too right. Ok lets look at the UK my country for a minute. The government have just rushed through some immediate legislation that makes all communication companies keep all communications between people, and accessible to the government. These are texts, phone calls, and all social media. The reason cited ? Fighting "terror". For fucks sake they must think we're stupid.There is another spin off of fear if they can make their populace scared of an unseen enemy, for governments. Studies have shown people actually consume more in a state of fear.The U.K, U.S and other top technological countries have the technology already to do all you said. They have been doing it for a while, tracking calls, hacking emails.....etc. But for the sake of having authoritarian power under the disguise of democracy they sell fear. Before, they would do it to suspects or certain people who are thought to be threatening. They would do it for a certain period until they are caught or cleared of suspicions. But now, they are just spreading their power span over their civilians to gain an iron grip. Can you imagine the blackmailing and manipulation any person can have with that sort of power? Putting the words "fighting terror" makes it SOUND acceptable to some people. Kieran. and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The U.K, U.S and other top technological countries have the technology already to do all you said. They have been doing it for a while, tracking calls, hacking emails.....etc. But for the sake of having authoritarian power under the disguise of democracy they sell fear. Before, they would do it to suspects or certain people who are thought to be threatening. They would do it for a certain period until they are caught or cleared of suspicions. But now, they are just spreading their power span over their civilians to gain an iron grip. Can you imagine the blackmailing and manipulation any person can have with that sort of power? Putting the words "fighting terror" makes it SOUND acceptable to some people.Yes, since Edward Snowdon blew the whistle on the UK and US snooping on all our communications, people have been asking for their data from communication companies to be wiped. Now there is Emergency legislation going through in 3 days to keep all our communications. Again do they think we're mentally deficient ? If a major drug deal now is going down, or if someone wants to blow up parliament, are they going to text or e mail their plans ?The main reason they want control over it is theyre terrified of people getting together and bringing down their corrupt, greedy, morally bankrupt regime. Its getting more like that film V for Vendetta every day Blue-in-me-Veins and Mohammed Seif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kaplan- 410 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Israel and The USA own the world. We want war. Can we end this topic now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Israel and The USA own the world. We want war. Can we end this topic now?Again, why? These guys are having a discussion about it.. No one's forcing you to rea it? Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kaplan- 410 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Again, why? These guys are having a discussion about it.. No one's forcing you to rea it?Gee, no one offers an opinion that favors israel. Its good to have a forum where the admins favor something. Every jew is satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Gee, no one offers an opinion that favors israel. Its good to have a forum where the admins favor something. Every jew is satan.Why do you insist on turning these discussions into a religious issue?????!!!!! Man, chill. It is politics no more. The Skipper and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Gee, no one offers an opinion that favors israel. Its good to have a forum where the admins favor something. Every jew is satan.Like Seif just said.. Why do you insist on turning these discussions into a religious issue?????!!!!! Man, chill. It is politics no more.this is politics, religion is scarcely mentioned. the word zionist was mentioned, but the rest of discussion is about the current issues. I don't know why you keep mentioning mods being involved.. are they not allowed an option like the rest of us? The Skipper, Mohammed Seif and Fulham Broadway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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