Atomiswave 6,119 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Vesper said: I am an atheist there is no satan nor god in my worldview Pence is a psychotic born-again RW xian They all fucking horrible man...clowns and liers. Dont trust criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 09/10/2019 at 8:20 PM, Atomiswave said: What a disgusting move by Turkey.......if I were Assad I would fire missiles right onto Turkey. Turkey is NATO all of NATO would be treaty-bound to parking lot the country (Syria) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Vesper said: Turkey is NATO all of NATO would be treaty-bound to parking lot the country (Syria) Yeah I know mate, been there for 6 years ( Nato ). Still does not mean other countries have to follow suit. If its the wrong move then they wont do shit regarding joining in. THis was a bad move by Erdogan, one he may come to regret. Iran and Russia is still in Syria. You cant just attack and invade part of a country just cuz you believe there is a security risk ( there aint none ). Kurds have no power to fuck Turkey up, if anything kurds inside Turkey are a much higher risk. Its BS is what it is mate, and it could easily escalate if Assad fires back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Yeah I know mate, been there for 6 years ( Nato ). Still does not mean other countries have to follow suit. If its the wrong move then they wont do shit regarding joining in. THis was a bad move by Erdogan, one he may come to regret. Iran and Russia is still in Syria. You cant just attack and invade part of a country just cuz you believe there is a security risk ( there aint none ). Kurds have no power to fuck Turkey up, if anything kurds inside Turkey are a much higher risk. Its BS is what it is mate, and it could easily escalate if Assad fires back. Turkey has been in NATO since 1952 The Cuban Missile Crisis was over the US deployment of PGM-19 Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey (and Italy) so the Союз Советских Социалистических Республик (CCCP aka USSR) retaliated by trying to put R-14 Chusovaya nukes in Cuba As for the other NATO countries not doing anything, au contraire. The key section of the treaty is Article 5. Its commitment clause defines the casus foederis. It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all. Collective defence - Article 5 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm The principle of collective defence is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty. It remains a unique and enduring principle that binds its members together, committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance. Article 5 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: Turkey has been in NATO since 1952 The Cuban Missile Crisis was over the US deployment of PGM-19 Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey (and Italy) so the Союз Советских Социалистических Республик (CCCP aka USSR) retaliated by trying to put R-14 Chusovaya nukes in Cuba As for the other NATO countries not doing anything, au contraire. The key section of the treaty is Article 5. Its commitment clause defines the casus foederis. It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all. Collective defence - Article 5 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm The principle of collective defence is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty. It remains a unique and enduring principle that binds its members together, committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance. Article 5 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security . Yeah but this time its Nato member attacking....and not the other way around. You cant just attack another country just cause you feel like it or on shady basis and then expect your friends will come helping. It doesnt work like that, and certainly not now. If Assad fires back then Nato will swiftly try to find a solution for Peace, and not immediately join the fight and bombard Syria........if it escalates after that then yes you are right. WHats written in a piece of paper is one thing, joining a war that likely will show to be a big mistake is another. They will try to solve it first, then act if needed......anything other and its bad for business and rep. Thats my experience anyway. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Atomiswave said: Yeah but this time its Nato member attacking....and not the other way around. You cant just attack another country just cause you feel like it or on shady basis and then expect your friends will come helping. It doesnt work like that, and certainly not now. If Assad fires back then Nato will swiftly try to find a solution for Peace, and not immediately join the fight and bombard Syria........if it escalates after that then yes you are right. WHats written in a piece of paper is one thing, joining a war that likely will show to be a big mistake is another. They will try to solve it first, then act if needed......anything other and its bad for business and rep. Thats my experience anyway. The US attacks the shit out of other nations for no legal reason, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc etc etc. NATO wont do shit to stop them, hell they HELP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,350 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Wouldn't be surprised if theres a disruption, political stunt at the Turkey v Albania game tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,270 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Tice is such a pure CUNT. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fulham Broadway 17,350 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 0:42 PM, Vesper said: Tice is such a pure CUNT. Hassan had him in a headlock Agree about Tice. Left his wife and kids for that whatsherface, posh twat that wrote Camerons bio ? A biography saying Cameron put his cock in a dead pig. Just your typical upper class tradition I suppose Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Trump is trying to stir up mass murder, this was played at Mar-A-Lago, at a big RW fundraiser this weekend Trump Kills Fake News (Church of Fake News) 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Saturday Parliament (first time in 40 years or so) live stream BREXIT deal votes live now our nation in the balance https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/8cab9d4a-f095-4ab7-8454-7e5e8fd8f9cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10-10-2019 at 11:19 PM, Vesper said: The US attacks the shit out of other nations for no legal reason, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc etc etc. NATO wont do shit to stop them, hell they HELP. Sorry about the late reply mate, been out of country. Yeah US does that and most of us know the reasons. Nato condemed Turkey and wont help out, even talks of sanctions etc, as I said they wont get involved this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,590 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The Washington Post faces backlash for headline calling ISIS terrorist 'austere religious scholar' https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/28/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-washington-post-austere-headline/2483340001/ Washing Post is a joke. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Jonathan Pie - Election 2019 week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 The Guardian view on Prince Andrew: entitled, obtuse and shamefully silent over Epstein’s victims https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/17/the-guardian-view-on-prince-andrew-entitled-obtuse-and-shamefully-silent-over-epstein-victims can he just fuck off!!! I detest the royals manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Vesper said: I detest the royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,590 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Trump War Room (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TrumpWarRoom) Tweeted: House Democrats can push their sham impeachment all they want. President Trump's re-election is 𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲. https://t.co/O7o02S26nS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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