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[Vesper 30,270]

 

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[Atomiswave 6,119]

On ‎14‎-‎04‎-‎2019 at 3:50 PM, Vesper said:

I disagree , you are pulling it out of political critique context. Any criticism of zionism and the barbarous acts of Israel automatically become anti-semitic when it is run through their spin machine.

Meanwhile they talk about the Palestinians in the most vile, de-humanising terms and then act out on that paradigm they have created.

https://www.palestineadvocacyproject.org/quotes/

Sources:
http://imeu.org/article/extremism-incitement-to-racial-hatred-senior-israeli-officials-in-their-own
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.702318
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/39692/fibi-netanyahu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TG0vdzrmt4
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192309#.Vmr_z7-udSE
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/10/israeli-foreign-minister-says-disloyal-arabs-should-be-beheaded/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-election-lieberman-idUSKBN0M71PN20150311
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/soldiers-protesters-occupied
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/world/middleeast/rashomon-on-the-west-bank-israelis-and-palestinians-debate-images-of-soldier-and-child.html?_r=0
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/01/nabi-saleh-images-illustrate-changing-asymmetry-of-israeli-palestinian-conflict
http://www.thenation.com/article/prominent-israelis-flatten-gaza-or-send-it-back-middle-ages/
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/israel-s-minister-of-incitement-1.479125
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-lawmakers-call-genocide-palestinians-gets-thousands-facebook-likes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/05/07/israels-new-justice-minister-considers-all-palestinians-to-be-the-enemy/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-deputy-defense-minister-called-palestinians-animals/
http://972mag.com/next-head-of-civil-administration-said-palestinians-are-sub-human/106533/
https://books.google.com/books
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/27/israel
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4369335,00.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2010/07/quote-for-the-day/184582/
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.663151
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.663151

 

from an older (2002) article

Comments made over the years by Israeli leaders

 
Note: Only Ben-Gurion honestly admitted why Palestinians were so upset by Israelis; and only he, among Israel's Prime Ministers hoped to reconcile Zionism with minimal disruption to the indigenous population. 
 
Nevertheless, Ben-Gurion and many of his successors have long strings of anti-Palestinian remarks which have been documented. . . among them. . . .

https://al-bushra.org/updates/091012commentsofisraelileaders.htm

 

David Ben-Gurion
Prime Minister of Israel
1949 – 1954

1955 – 1963

----  : "We must expel Arabs and take their places." 

 

----  : David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

----  : “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

----  :  David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff.   From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that
their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their
country. Why would they accept that?"
 Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp.
121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even
know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because
geography books no longer exist. Not only do the =2 0books not exist, the Arab
villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz
Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and
Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place
built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
 David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann,
Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

 

----  : "Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they [the Palestinians] defend themselves...

 

----  : “The country is theirs [the Palestinians], because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

----  : David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by
transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land
of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the
numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of
Israel."

David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a
slightly different translation).

 

Golda Meir
Prime Minister of Israel
1969 - 1974

 

----  : "There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."

 

----  : Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

----  : "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."

 

----  : Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

----  : "Any one who speaks in favour of bringing the Arab refugees back must also say how he expects to take the responsibility for it, if he is interested in the state of Israel.. . . .

 

----  : “It is better that things are stated clearly and plainly: We shall not let this happen."

----  : Golda Meir, 1961, in a speech to the Knesset, reported in Ner, October 1961

"This country exists as the fulfilment of a promise made by God Himself. It
would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy."
Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971

 

Yitzhak Rabin
Prime Minister of Israel
1974 - 1977,
1992 - 1995

 

----  : "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, ‘What is to be done with the Palestinian population?'

 

----  : “Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!’"

 

----  : Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

----  : "[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan.. .  .

 

----  :. . . To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat."

 

----  : Yitzhak Rabin (a "Prince of Peace" by Clinton's standards), explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry.

 

----  : (Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen's remarks to the Knesset's foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)

 

Menachem Begin
Prime Minister of=2 0Israel
1977 - 1983

----  : "[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."

----  : Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

----  : "The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized ....

----  : . . . .“Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever."

----  : Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.

 

Yizhak Shamir
Prime Minister of Israel
1983 - 1984,
1986 - 1992

----  : "The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the River Jordan for future generations, . . .

 

----  :. . . for the mass aliya (=Jewish immigration), and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country."

 

----  : Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service.

----  : "The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."

----  : Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.

----  : "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

----  : Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

 

Benjamin Netanyahu
Prime M inister of Israel
1996 - 1999

----  : "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

 

----  : Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

 

Ehud Barak
Prime Minister of Israel
1999 - 2001

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they
want more"....
 Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000.
Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

----  : "If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."

----  : Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.

----  : "I would have joined a terrorist organization."

 

----  : Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

 

Ariel Sharon
Prime Minister of Israel
2001-

----  :  . .  and now the current Prime Minister, a favorite of mine because he speaks plainly on this issue you deny.

 

----  : "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. . . .

 

----  : . . .The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

----  : Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

----  : "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
----  : Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

----   "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . .. .

 

----  : . . .  I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

 

----  : Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

----  : "Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."

----  : Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online

I so detest the fake Israeli state. Imagine someone coming in your country and just keep on eating all the land Little by Little. You have nothing to fight with but stones and they get billions after billions in aid and weaponry. I have been in Nato forces for over 6 years, have seen and done Things you cant imagine, I know of experiance what the fuck is going on. Dirty scum. I dont hate on jews, but that Israeli state is beyond staggering. All high.level 33 degree fremasons........you wont believe the inhuman shit they do everyday.

[Fulham Broadway 17,350]

26 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I so detest the fake Israeli state. Imagine someone coming in your country and just keep on eating all the land Little by Little. You have nothing to fight with but stones and they get billions after billions in aid and weaponry. I have been in Nato forces for over 6 years, have seen and done Things you cant imagine, I know of experiance what the fuck is going on. Dirty scum. I dont hate on jews, but that Israeli state is beyond staggering. All high.level 33 degree fremasons........you wont believe the inhuman shit they do everyday.

It's difficult isn't it -criticize Israel and you get accused of anti-semitism. Not even sure it is as clear as that- it's more their foreign policy, which is driven by billionaire arms industry shareholders. There are some Israeli guys on here, Drogba11 and Petrcech top guys, they live in Israel but don't determine their governments policies.

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1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

It's difficult isn't it -criticize Israel and you get accused of anti-semitism. Not even sure it is as clear as that- it's more their foreign policy, which is driven by billionaire arms industry shareholders. There are some Israeli guys on here, Drogba11 and Petrcech top guys, they live in Israel but don't determine their governments policies.

Absolutely.....its the folks behind the scenes, those with power I detest. Not ordinary folks, if you generalize then you are not much better. Figure out whom you cant diss in this world, and you will see who is running it. 

[Vesper 30,270]

21 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Absolutely.....its the folks behind the scenes, those with power I detest. Not ordinary folks, if you generalize then you are not much better. Figure out whom you cant diss in this world, and you will see who is running it. 

 

1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

I so detest the fake Israeli state. Imagine someone coming in your country and just keep on eating all the land Little by Little. You have nothing to fight with but stones and they get billions after billions in aid and weaponry. I have been in Nato forces for over 6 years, have seen and done Things you cant imagine, I know of experiance what the fuck is going on. Dirty scum. I dont hate on jews, but that Israeli state is beyond staggering. All high.level 33 degree fremasons........you wont believe the inhuman shit they do everyday.

Empire Files: Israelis Speak Candidly to Abby Martin About Palestinians

I have many LW non zionist, secular Jewish friends, great people, I have zero quarrel with them at all. They are appalled at what goes on there too.

[Vesper 30,270]

So, May is out on June 7th

and, lolol, the clown may be in

 

Next Tory leader betting odds: Boris Johnson 'streets ahead' in race to replace Theresa May

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/next-tory-leader-betting-odds-boris-johnson-streets-ahead-in-race-to-replace-theresa-may-a4149606.html

 

[Special Juan 28,187]

She will probably get the Chelsea job now.

[Laylabelle 9,539]

Boris?!?! Boris?! Really?!?! 

Wow... 

[nyikolajevics 2,707]

1 hour ago, Laylabelle said:

Boris?!?! Boris?! Really?!?! 

Wow... 

Love this guy, especially the videos where he plays football and kick children's asses, happened multiple times

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[Supermonkey92 1,428]

On 5/25/2019 at 7:59 PM, nyikolajevics said:

Love this guy, especially the videos where he plays football and kick children's asses, happened multiple times

Your probably thinking of rugby where he bulldozed them like skittles with his magic roundabout hair blowing in the wind 

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6 hours ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Your probably thinking of rugby where he bulldozed them like skittles with his magic roundabout hair blowing in the wind 

Nope, there are football ones aswell:

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2014/oct/15/boris-johnson-trips-child-football-match-video

 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

10 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:

Nope, there are football ones aswell:

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2014/oct/15/boris-johnson-trips-child-football-match-video

 

It looks like Boris was thinking of Rugby there 

 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Tsipras eats dust in Greece.
May resigns,
May (the month) was a good month.

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,350]

On ‎25‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 7:59 PM, nyikolajevics said:

Love this guy, especially the videos where he plays football and kick children's asses, happened multiple times

Alexander de Pfeffel Boris Johnson is an unmitigated Grade A cunt. Don't be fooled by the 'buffoon' persona.

A few of his quotes;

''Black people are grinning piccanninies with water melon smiles''

''Orientals have larger brains and IQs, blacks are at the other end of the spectrum''

 

 

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18 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Alexander de Pfeffel Boris Johnson is an unmitigated Grade A cunt. Don't be fooled by the 'buffoon' persona.

A few of his quotes;

''Black people are grinning piccanninies with water melon smiles''

''Orientals have larger brains and IQs, blacks are at the other end of the spectrum''

 

 

Johnson's 'piccaninnies' apology

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/jan/23/london.race

Boris Johnson has apologised for referring to black people as "piccaninnies" and talking about "watermelon smiles".
During a debate for the London mayoral contest on Monday, the Conservative candidate said he was "sad" that people had been offended but insisted the words had been taken out of context.

In a column published in the Daily Telegraph six years ago, Johnson mocked Tony Blair's globetrotting: "What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies," he wrote. It also mentioned "watermelon smiles".

snip

 

Boris says sorry over 'blacks have lower IQs' article in the Spectator

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/boris-says-sorry-over-blacks-have-lower-iqs-article-in-the-spectator-6630340.html

Boris Johnson apologised again over race issues today after he was accused of condoning an article that claimed black people have a lower IQ.

The Tory mayoral candidate came under fire from Ken Livingstone and a leading black lawyer over pieces published in the Spectator magazine when he was editor.

In one, columnist Taki wrote that "Orientals ... have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole." In another, he described black American bastketball players as having "arms hanging below their knees and tongues sticking out".

snip

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[Vesper 30,270]

Jonathan Pie - The Race to NUMBER 10   it's a good rant!!!!!!!!

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

In the three years since Brexit this is the only person to talk any sense.