Jase 43,479 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: At least he gave them title. And Lyon was no joke. They knocked out City later. I didn't saw Pep getting sacked and City is probably more desperate for CL success. About boring football... Well, even here he said that he needs 2 years to make his football work. Napoli was playing better season by season... In his last 3 jobs he got replaced by managers who did worse. Ancelotti, Lampard and Pirlo. First two got sacked fast and Pirlo is not that far away by looking at results. Now they can enjoy Conte taking title from them. If that is what they wanted 😁 City more desperate for CL success? Why do you think Juventus went all out to sign Ronaldo from Real Madrid? They bought him literally to help them get over the line in the Champions League, a competition they haven't won since 1996 despite reaching 5 finals between then and now. They are bloody desperate to win it considering they are already so successful domestically. Am sure they can survive not winning the Serie A for a season or two. Sarri played nice football at Napoli but never won anything with them. Gattuso came in after Ancelotti and won the Coppa Italia. So, go figure. The stats may suggest Lampard did worse than Sarri but on the flip side, had Sarri stayed, am not sure he would have been able to successfully integrate the youth players into the first team as Lampard did, especially after a season where he largely relied on Hazard to do the business. I guess one could say that we and Juventus made a dumb decision to hire Sarri in the first place. Given the type of our squad and Juventus' - both excelling in pragmatic football - it was never going to work with Sarri's style of play and even more so when he's super rigid in his ways. Both teams would have to likely rebuild the entire squad just to fit his way, which would obviously be more costly and take longer than just sacking one person. Most of the players Sarri had at Napoli were already there and he just bought a few notable players over the 3 seasons to complement with the rest of the squad. So in some ways, the pieces already fell into place for him at Napoli. Plus some managers are better when managing a second-tier side than when managing a top tier side. Less pressure and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 hours ago, DANILA said: These player-manager experiments are NOT working... Lampard, Pirlo, Arteta, Rooney... all failing. They need experience in lower leagues first. Gerrard is doing it right How is Rooney not doing it right by starting in the Championship? How is Rooney even failing? He's won 5 of his 7 games since being appointed permanent manager of Derby. That's a decent start and it's way too early to even judge him. And managing in the Championship is probably similar to, if not tougher than, managing in the Scottish Premier League. The Championship is way more hectic than the Scottish Premier League given how many teams are trying to get promoted, although Gerrard might have more pressure considering he's managing one of the big two there. Is Arteta really failing at Arsenal considering their recent standards? It's kinda par for the course since they are trying to rebuild after years of falling off from the best and their peak years. Different case with Lampard at Chelsea and Pirlo at Juventus where the expectations are higher, there are better players and there's more spending power. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: Is Arteta really failing at Arsenal considering their recent standards? Fuck it i'll bite. Emery finished 5th with a significantly worse squad, we had a worse squad last season and finished 4th. He's also breaking negative record after negative record while extending contracts of his deadwood players (which takes away any excuse he may have had at first about players holding him back). Off the top of my head he begged Xhaka to stay, extended the Ceballos loan deal and now wants to make him permanent, made Bellerin vice captain, kept the wrong keeper, has extended Holding, Luiz, Nketiah while pissing of two of their biggest talents (Saliba and Balogun)- infact think i read on reddit that 16/24 players in the squad are at Arsenal today thanks to his input be it signing, contract extension, convincing them to stay so the not his squad excuse is long gone, he should at a minimum be challenging top 4. Also Moyes went to West Ham at the same time and look at the difference. The excuses being created for Arteta are worse than the Torres one's, the guy is out of his depth and i hope Arsenal keep him for many years to come. DANILA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Tomo said: Fuck it i'll bite. Emery finished 5th with a significantly worse squad, we had a worse squad last season and finished 4th. He's also breaking negative record after negative record while extending contracts of his deadwood players (which takes away any excuse he may have had at first about players holding him back). Off the top of my head he begged Xhaka to stay, extended the Ceballos loan deal and now wants to make him permanent, made Bellerin vice captain, kept the wrong keeper, has extended Holding, Luiz, Nketiah while pissing of two of their biggest talents (Saliba and Balogun)- infact think i read on reddit that 16/24 players in the squad are at Arsenal today thanks to his input be it signing, contract extension, convincing them to stay so the not his squad excuse is long gone, he should at a minimum be challenging top 4. Also Moyes went to West Ham at the same time and look at the difference. The excuses being created for Arteta are worse than the Torres one's, the guy is out of his depth and i hope Arsenal keep him for many years to come. For the record, I wasn't making excuses for Arteta and I could care less about whether he's out of his depth or not. The point is, Arsenal's expectations are at their lowest in ages. They seem content with taking the long road back to the top and content with being an "experimental playground" for Arteta. Not sure if anyone would be batting an eyelid if they finish outside the Top 4 or even the Top 6 this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jason said: For the record, I wasn't making excuses for Arteta and I could care less about whether he's out of his depth or not. The point is, Arsenal's expectations are at their lowest in ages. They seem content with taking the long road back to the top and content with being an "experimental playground" for Arteta. Not sure if anyone would be batting an eyelid if they finish outside the Top 4 or even the Top 6 this season. BIB: Both true but that's mainly because of Edu and Arteta brainwashing the fans and outsiders. Wenger's head was on a stick for only finishing top four and winning FA Cups, Emery was hounded out for 3 loses in 18 but Arteta's getting a free pass on the guise on the rebuild even though he's dropped Arsenal to depths those two didn't even sniff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Edu is def not liked amongst Ars fans, most of their fans I know have realized Arteta aint good enough in the end, though their squad is not top 4 worthy imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2020-21 UEFA Europa League, Round of 32 Real Sociedad Manchester United http://www.sportnews.to/mysports/2021/europa-league-real-sociedad-vs-manchester-united-s2/#! https://www.totalsportek.com/page-3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Spurse ahead 1-3 United 0-2 ahead....of course bruno the olympic diver scored both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 The deeper United, Spurs, and Leciester go in the Europa league, the better news for us. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Looking at Barca the other day and now Sociedad and we know what happened to Real against Shakhtar, I think that Atletico is nothing special just all others are so bad. With Lampard I did not have any hope against them but now with Tuchel I think we have great chances. We need to attack them, they dont score a lot and away goal in Romania is essential next week. Edited February 18, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Tomo said: BIB: Both true but that's mainly because of Edu and Arteta brainwashing the fans and outsiders. Wenger's head was on a stick for only finishing top four and winning FA Cups, Emery was hounded out for 3 loses in 18 but Arteta's getting a free pass on the guise on the rebuild even though he's dropped Arsenal to depths those two didn't even sniff. But let's not pretend as if Arsenal weren't already falling down the pecking order under Wenger. He regularly got them into the Champions League but they don't make any impact at all, constantly crashing out in the last 16. Winning the FA Cup is always nice but no one is gonna be satisfied with just winning FA Cups if the team aren't doing anything in the other competitions. It's Arsenal, not Newcastle. Because of what happened in the latter years of Wenger's regime, Arsenal have basically found themselves in a position where (a) sane, top quality players will not join them and (b) no sane, top clubs will buy any of their players except maybe Partey and at a push, Aubameyang and Lacazette. Couple those with an owner who is reluctant to spend big money on players, although strangely (to put it kindly) committing to big money contracts on old players, you end up with a club that have to scrape the barrels for players. If Arsenal want to seemingly take the long road, pursue a road that doesn't seem to be leading to anywhere and with a newbie in charge, then I'd say let them have their "fun" with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just seen Leicester's lineup in their Europa League game. Seems like Brendan Rodgers is taking the competition seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2020-21 UEFA Europa League, Round of 32 Benfica Arsenal http://www.sportnews.to/mysports/2021/europa-league-benfica-vs-arsenal-s1/#! https://www.totalsportek.com/arsenal-streams/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Leicester got nothing for going full strength. Villa will be well rested on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Arsenal is full strength today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I so hope Benfica take them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Kenedy goal and assist already against Napoli. He is on fire lately. Scored against Barca and Villarreal as well. Amazing goal against Valencia. Edited February 18, 2021 by NikkiCFC Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Funny how both Pep and Arteta started using Portuguese RBs as LBs. Also ESR never impressed me. Why are they playing him every time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I'm watching Atletico right now and they actually look worse than us. That's the only good news we have today 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 They didn't beat Levante the other day and now losing. We have good chance, they are nothing special just benefiting from other teams being shit. Azul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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