Term-X 7,891 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 P.s. We Hate Souse, you're on fire in this thread, keep going!Not really, francozola just smashed his Moyes argument into pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I dont think were mentioning Marcelo Biesa enough. He was (weakly however) linked recently with the possibiltiy of taking over the cfc job. He from what im told is a top draw manager and if we decided to raid atletico biablo (if we get him) we have a good shot and munain and martinez.Of course you been well informed by Justin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 What is the difference between Moyes and AVB? Moyes has more experience in the Premiership, but he is still a wild card at this level. No one knows how he would deal with superstars and prima donnas.There is no way that the club will go for Moyes. They will appoint a someone who has experience at the top levelYou mention about Moyes that he won't take shit from anybody. AVB wasn't just some quiet character who let himself be bullied by the old guard. He tried to fight them. He lost and that cost him his job.Interesting point, but your main point being allured to Superstars, which i take it you mean Cole, Lampard and co?Simple point is sell them this summer.Almost every other player have been very cooperative. These two have been very negative influence to the whole club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Not really, francozola just smashed his Moyes argument into pieces.Well if those Roman 'riot act' 'massive changes' story is true, he [Moyes] may not have to deal with such antics. While francozola is right that the club probably wouldn't consider him, he's still a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The problem with new manager is that we need a big-time and proven manager in top level so that the board and the fans will trust him when he sell our older palyers (Lampard,Drogba,Terry?,cole,etc) similar to when mourinho sold guti and raul in Real. I am not sure there is a manager with that kind of pedigree out there right now (maybe guardiola, but i don't think he will leave barca) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Moyes is a better bet than anyone else on that poll, excluding Jose.Also does anyone know what's the deal with Terry and Jose? i remember when we played inter a couple of years ago Terry just ignored Jose.In Makelele's biography, Makelele said John terry couldn't work with Jose any more and handed in a transfer request... Kenyon then got rid of Jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Not really, francozola just smashed his Moyes argument into pieces.Francozola has been :toke: hot on every thread since yesterday..Hell really has no fury like a woman scorned...Dont wanna be around her when she gets mad, seem like they will be alot of misplaced stuff getting thrown around ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Fan 227 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.tdg.ch/sports/actu/joachim-loew-chelsea/story/15033367 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Ha ha! Rafa's too good for you lot. The cheek of some of you thinking you're too good for him.But hey, Sky say he rotates too much and spent a fortune. Let's not let facts get in the way of what trophies he's won and his achievements, let's listen to Paul Merson salivating all over the desk before his next court appearance.Mongs.Hahaha that cheered me up thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Good news guys, Sven Goran Eriksson wants the job. :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://www.tdg.ch/sp.../story/15033367He would be perfect, he will kick out the old guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 He would be perfect, he will kick out the old guards.I call bluff. He's on the verge of something brilliant with the German NT, a team that's young & full of immense potential. No way do I see him walking away from that just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That would be fucking awesome!!! ...actually fuck it, i'm not getting excited whoever we get, he will be out in under a year.Yawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 No point getting Guardiola at this stage. AVB tried to play passing football and the players didn't want to/ couldn't play that way. The team bar Romeu and Mata are not technically good enough to play tici taca football and it is not something that you can teach overnight. Guardiola inherited a squad which had tremendous technical players, most of whom had come through the La Masia academy meaning that they had been playing passing football together for years. We would have to wait about 10 years from now to see true results from our academy if we want passing football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Also does anyone know what's the deal with Terry and Jose? i remember when we played inter a couple of years ago Terry just ignored Jose.In Makelele's biography, Makelele said John terry couldn't work with Jose any more and handed in a transfer request... Kenyon then got rid of Jose.Yeah JT was supposedly the main reason Jose got the sack. Jose wanted to drop him which angered JT and he complained to Roman. Jose and Roman weren't on the best of terms anyway so Roman got rid of him. This is what I've read but obviously no one knows exactly what happened.That's why I think it's naive of some to turn on lampard and at the same time claim that JT is the 'true Chelsea legend'. Im repeating what I said in the other thread, but let's not forget that JT wasn't dropped by AVB the way lampard was, so we can't compare the two situations. Furthermore because of the racism allegations, JT has stayed in the background.Francozola has been :toke: hot on every thread since yesterday..Hell really has no fury like a woman scorned...Dont wanna be around her when she gets mad, seem like they will be alot of misplaced stuff getting thrown around .....Well if those Roman 'riot act' 'massive changes' story is true, he [Moyes] may not have to deal with such antics. While francozola is right that the club probably wouldn't consider him, he's still a good choice.If roman intended on getting rid of these players in the summer, then wouldn't he simply let AVB continue? What's the point in sacking AVB? The only way it makes sense, is if they have changed their minds and decided to appoint an established manager.Because Moyes = AVB in basic terms. So sacking one and then appointing the other makes no sense if the players are out of the equation. Hope you get what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You are desillusional if you think Moyes is the answer.If by "the answer" you mean winning the EPL and taking us to CL glory then no I don't think any manager in the world currently has the answer. But I do think David Moyes is a great manager and if given the money can bring in great players and definitely do better than Rafa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The problem with new manager is that we need a big-time and proven manager in top level so that the board and the fans will trust him when he sell our older palyers (Lampard,Drogba,Terry?,cole,etc) similar to when mourinho sold guti and raul in Real. I am not sure there is a manager with that kind of pedigree out there right now (maybe guardiola, but i don't think he will leave barca)We had it under Carlo.Moyes is a better bet than anyone else on that poll, excluding Jose.Also does anyone know what's the deal with Terry and Jose? i remember when we played inter a couple of years ago Terry just ignored Jose.In Makelele's biography, Makelele said John terry couldn't work with Jose any more and handed in a transfer request... Kenyon then got rid of Jose.Interesting, I did not knew that about Terry!No point getting Guardiola at this stage. AVB tried to play passing football and the players didn't want to/ couldn't play that way. The team bar Romeu and Mata are not technically good enough to play tici taca football and it is not something that you can teach overnight. Guardiola inherited a squad which had tremendous technical players, most of whom had come through the La Masia academy meaning that they had been playing passing football together for years. We would have to wait about 10 years from now to see true results from our academy if we want passing football.Exactly, Pep don't have such extensive CV. Just like AVB.I think even Martin O'Neill will make a better candidate then these two lot, who will just get fired after half a season...well AVB did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 We had it under Carlo. Interesting, I did not knew that about Terry! Exactly, Pep don't have such extensive CV. Just like AVB. I think even Martin O'Neill will make a better candidate then these two lot, who will just get fired after half a season...well AVB did! Nope, Carlo job was to win the league. Our next manager job has to start with rebuilding our squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,575 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Eriksson wants Chelsea job http://www1.skysport.../11668/7571605/ Rafa coy on Chelsea link Ex-Liverpool boss Benitez admits he wants top club for next jobhttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7571601/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 5,333 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 JOSE MOURINHOAge: 49Current club: Real MadridShortest odds: 2/1"The Special One" has never hidden his keenness to return to the Premier League. Speculation of a comeback has risen significantly in recent months, following leaks of strained relations between Mourinho and Real Madrid's Spain stars.The former Chelsea boss has communicated through trusted sources that he is ready to return to England at the end of the season, and last week allowed himself to be spotted house-hunting close to Stamford Bridge. How much of this very public flirtation is a power grab, as opposed to a genuine desire to leave swiftly, remains to be seen.Certainly the obstacles to his return are negligible. Mourinho's relationship with Abramovich was quickly repaired after his sudden departure. The Manchester United and Manchester City posts do not seem likely to open up. The real question is if Mourinho fancies the task of replacing a Cech-Terry-Lampard spine that was in its prime when he inherited it in 2004.PEP GUARDIOLAAge: 41Current club: BarcelonaShortest odds: 4/1It is hard to imagine many head coaches in Guardiola's position being potentially so available. He has enjoyed relentless success in constructing arguably one of the greatest teams in footballing history, but has always kept his options open. Guardiola has always preferred to sign for only one season at a time.Widespread reports in Spain had the Barcelona coach verbally agreeing a deal for next season back in December. Still, nothing is signed and the question remains: how much more can he do at the Nou Camp? Clinching a third Champions League trophy in four seasons might be an ideal way to sign off.The challenge of Chelsea would represent almost a polar opposite to Guardiola's Barcelona brief. He knows Barca inside-out, and has perfectly exploited his knowledge of the club's stellar youth system. The Blues, meanwhile, have been heavily criticised for their relatively unproductive academy. Success at the Bridge would put to an end any doubt over Guardiola's status as an all-time great coach.RAFAEL BENITEZAge: 51Current club: NoneShortest odds: 4/1The difficulties of Benitez's final months at Liverpool should not overshadow his qualities. He is one of the game's sharpest tactical minds, with painstaking attention to detail. He also produced Liverpool's most attractive side in a generation, the 2008/09 side which ran Manchester United close for the Premier League.He does know how to succeed in the Champions League. In 2005 he won the trophy with a borderline dysfunctional squad, so could offer Abramovich short-term gratification as well as good prospects. European know-how is surely an attractive feature for the owner.The greatest problems with a potential Benítez appointment are image-based. Chelsea fans associate him both with his latter-day failure at Liverpool, and the attritional football of the 2005 and 2007 Champions League semi-finals against Chelsea.Abramovich may be put off by Benitez's difficult relationships with the boards of Valencia and Liverpool. In both cases, the coach campaigned diligently for greater transfer autonomy.FABIO CAPELLOAge: 65Current club: NoneShortest odds: 6/1England's loss could be Chelsea's gain. Capello has plenty of critics for his stewardship of England but his club track record is peerless, with title wins in Italy and Spain.Respected rather than liked in his native Italy, he is ostensibly the perfect fit for Chelsea in many ways. He is unemotional and business-like. Dealing with international-class stars is second nature. In short, he has the experience, hard-headedness and status to successfully complete the needed squad transplant.Capello is a pragmatist. His masterminding of Milan's stunning 1994 Champions League final win over Barcelona does, however, show that he cannot be totally typecast.Importantly, he never lets pride inform his decisions. A good example is his reincorporation of David Beckham into Real Madrid's side in 2007 to great effect - he had previously said he would never pick the England captain again.ROBERTO DI MATTEOAge: 41Current club: Chelsea (caretaker boss)Shortest odds: 5/1Di Matteo retains a sizeable portion of goodwill among Blues fans. As a player, he was part of what made Chelsea fashionable pre-Abramovich. Cosmopolitan, good-looking and stylish, he was one of the key figures of the Matthew Harding era. His two FA Cup final-winning goals live on in Chelsea legend.His initial coaching career cut a similar dash, with impressive work at Milton Keynes Dons and West Bromwich Albion. Yet a good Premier League start with West Brom morphed into struggle, and he was ruthlessly cut from his post in February last year.It is therefore hard to see how Di Matteo has the authority to oversee a major rebuild at the Bridge. This is a job for an experienced authority figure. He is also tainted by association with the Villas-Boas era; a similar situation to the background which tainted Steve McClaren's tenure as England coach.DAVID MOYESAge: 48Current club: EvertonShortest odds: 12/1Moyes's principal qualities are clear. He has extensive Premier League experience, authority and durability. He has also consistently overachieved at Everton over a tenure spanning a decade. Given his limited budget on Merseyside, Moyes could aid Chelsea in adapting to Uefa's new Financial Fair Play model.The Scot has also rebuilt his Everton side on a number of occasions, following departures as varied as David Unsworth, Wayne Rooney and Mikel Arteta. Securing a Champions League place in 2005 was, meanwhile, little short of a miracle. He has probably taken Everton about as far as he can.Chelsea would, however, represent a huge step. That 2005 qualifying round defeat to Villarreal is the closest Moyes has come to Europe's biggest competition. It represents a huge hole in his CV. Grappling with the egos of an established squad packed with big names would be a leap into the unknown.DIDIER DESCHAMPSAge: 43Current club: MarseilleShortest odds: 16/1Another former Chelsea player, Deschamps convinced far fewer fans than Di Matteo in his time at the Bridge. He has proved himself as a top coach, however.He guided Monaco to the 2004 Champions League final at Chelsea's expense before taking Juventus to an impressive promotion in 2007, after the Calciopoli scandal. In his current post, Deschamps guided Marseille to their first silverware in 17 years, winning the Ligue 1 title and the French League Cup in his first season in charge, in 2010.His position has come under strain this season, with open warfare between the coach and sporting director Jose Anigo. Deschamps left Monaco and Juventus after similar disputes with the board, so he would not be a "yes" man.His defensive style could also be a turn-off for Abramovich. Criticised for his circumspect tactics, the stubborn Deschamps went on to buy three defensive players among his four major signings last summer.LAURENT BLANCAge: 46Current job: FranceShortest odds: 20/1Blanc has much less club experience - limited to only three seasons at Bordeaux - but has undeniably made waves in his short coaching career. He took his time before choosing his first managerial post, joining the club in 2007.In the meantime Blanc had studied extensively. He made a huge impact at Bordeaux. The club won their first league championship in 10 years, and he inspired Yoann Gourcuff and Alou Diarra to heights they have not touched since.A disastrous last six months at Bordeaux led many to question if Blanc had the experience to turn around a stricken France national side, but he has done superbly. France are unbeaten in 18 matches ahead of Euro 2012, and Blanc has integrated some excellent young players, including Arsenal target Yann M'Vila.His coaching career does, however, lack the continental breadth of his playing career. Blanc has heavily favoured home-based players for France - questioning whether he has the skills to manage a multi-national squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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