Ruben Loftus-Cheek

[iseah100 5,612]

Meanwhile we let Colkett play with boys when he would start for a lot of top sides

Colkett is by far my favorite youngster and he is rotting in the youth team. Smh.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

20 hours ago, Tomo said:

As Cesc and Ruben pivot would get destroyed defensively.

As limited as Mikel is he does offer decent stability in that regard and let's be honest our defense need all the protection they can get right now.

Having said that Rubens cameo should warrant him more time now, that what you have to do as a young player, make the most of what ever minutes you get.

As a big club we never had time to give young players a chance. It always came at cost of potential bad results. 

But now, we have all the time. Thats all we have. No pressure and no cost. 

Just from top of my head, Matic was awful in first games at benfica but he got time and soon became best player of portugal league. 

This shit season could be blessing in disguise to give youth a chance, something we cant do when we compete for trophies. But the board is clueless to not see that. Every damn club in world would play young players if they were in our position. Even united is doing it. But not us. We keep playing underperfoming player over and over, ignore young ones and hope something will change, while in reality everything moves downwards.

I agree about that pivot would be overrun. But hey why not try 4:3:3 with Mikel, Rlc and Cesc? But I guess that would be risk too much for Guus and we might lose a game instead of drawing.

[Yeboii 1,844]

On 1/3/2016 at 9:35 PM, LDN Blue said:

So he wouldn't actively be seeking a loan away just yet. But I'm sure if he continues to be messed around by 35s substitutions then he won't be quite the happy chappy he is now. Hiddink seems to be good at the whole man-management thing so I'm sure he's verbally communicating with RLC on a weekly basis about how he wants him to train along with Eddie Newton (Who I believe has been placed especially to work with the u21s).

He is getting back from a big injury

Quoted the wrong post. Was gonna quote Leif on the Colkett thing.

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

As a big club we never had time to give young players a chance. It always came at cost of potential bad results. 

But now, we have all the time. Thats all we have. No pressure and no cost. 

Just from top of my head, Matic was awful in first games at benfica but he got time and soon became best player of portugal league. 

This shit season could be blessing in disguise to give youth a chance, something we cant do when we compete for trophies. But the board is clueless to not see that. Every damn club in world would play young players if they were in our position. Even united is doing it. But not us. We keep playing underperfoming player over and over, ignore young ones and hope something will change, while in reality everything moves downwards.

I agree about that pivot would be overrun. But hey why not try 4:3:3 with Mikel, Rlc and Cesc? But I guess that would be risk too much for Guus and we might lose a game instead of drawing.

But not us? Traore and Kenedy have been getting ample game time since February, Ruben maybe could have got more, but he came one in last two games.

All in all over the course of this season, three youngsters have had some pretty handy game time and made some decent progress, if City have those three the same time their would be raves about Pellegrino youth development in the English Football thread.

[LondonsFinest 692]

On 20.03.2016 г. at 0:17 PM, Muzchap said:

I don't see any lazy players in the Leicester team - that's why they are top of the table. 

Playing a lazy player sets a shitty standard for the rest of the team. 

I'm glad you aren't in charge of making these decisions ???

So you'd prefer a Shinji Okazaki to a Dimitar Berbatov for example? Out of the odd 4, Leicester have taken advantage of the downfall of big teams. They aren't lazy, true, but they have fallen off with pressure getting to them. 

While I never said that Ruben isn't lazy, which I don't know why you jumped the gun in the first place, I also said he is adjusting his body, which I am kind of doubtful you understand, because you either don't play football or if you do, it's never been on a football pitch. My post was with exact sense, he is lazy, but needs time to be seen, whether he can just. On the other hand, I don't know if lazy players set the standards for the team. Eden is lazy in training, according to report,... our best player. 

 

Overall, your post was completely out of blue, knee jerk reaction, without a shadow of doubt, thoughtless. Because Ruben IS one of the best players in our club in terms of technical ability, passing and physique. Just needs that stamina and workrate. HENCE WHY, he should be next to Mikel and Cesc, rather than be played at 10.

[Muzchap 8,966]

12 hours ago, LondonsFinest said:

So you'd prefer a Shinji Okazaki to a Dimitar Berbatov for example? Out of the odd 4, Leicester have taken advantage of the downfall of big teams. They aren't lazy, true, but they have fallen off with pressure getting to them. 

While I never said that Ruben isn't lazy, which I don't know why you jumped the gun in the first place, I also said he is adjusting his body, which I am kind of doubtful you understand, because you either don't play football or if you do, it's never been on a football pitch. My post was with exact sense, he is lazy, but needs time to be seen, whether he can just. On the other hand, I don't know if lazy players set the standards for the team. Eden is lazy in training, according to report,... our best player. 

 

Overall, your post was completely out of blue, knee jerk reaction, without a shadow of doubt, thoughtless. Because Ruben IS one of the best players in our club in terms of technical ability, passing and physique. Just needs that stamina and workrate. HENCE WHY, he should be next to Mikel and Cesc, rather than be played at 10.

Dude - I like RLC but he must have a fundamental flaw to be continually left on the bench. 

Fine - you call it adjustment, I call it lack of work rate (lazy)

As for Leicester - you can only beat what's in front of you and for a whole team that cost £22 million they have done an exceptional job, I'm sorry but you cannot degrade their achievement this season. 

It wasn't knee jerk - it was more tongue in cheek and/or pisstake - sorry if it upset ya  

if Hazard is lazy in training, then one day he will realise the unfulfilled potential of his career and be sad about it... But if Hazard is lazy and off form, and potentially injured and still plays over RLC what does that say? I also notice that RLC is a similar build to Traore - yet he doesn't appear to suffer from adjustment problems  - not having a go at you - just saying what I see - I will be more than happy to be proven wrong - would love 4-5 Acadamy players to break-through it would be amazing, especially if we also delivered silverware!  

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12 hours ago, Muzchap said:

 I also notice that RLC is a similar build to Traore - yet he doesn't appear to suffer from adjustment problems  - not having a go at you - just saying what I see - I will be more than happy to be proven wrong - would love 4-5 Acadamy players to break-through it would be amazing, especially if we also delivered silverware!  

RLC is similar built to Traore?RLC weighs 10 kg more than Traore,while RLC is at least 12 cm bigger than him.RLC has it much harder to built a decent stamina.Traore is skinny as hell,but RLC has a very strong built physique.

Furthermore,it is hard to build stamina in the PL due to the fact that the training is not as hard as Bundesliga Training.Schürrle once said that in PL,you get your overall fitness through the games you play,while in Bundesliga,you get your fitness in training.The training shedule in Bundesliga is much harder,but the match shedule in PL is much more intense,so PL teams will not train that hard in training in order to get 100% out of the hard PL shedule they  have to face.RLC does get zero match fitness,he never plays for youth anymore and he never plays in PL matches and that is why he will always struggle getting a decent stamina.

 

[chelseafan26 293]

He is Lazy, right guys?

This is the problem with this day and age. A manager can say something unwanted in the heat of the moment and every fan in the world would try to make it true even if the truth is light years different from it. Time and again I see people dissecting RLC's minutest mistakes and making it sound like he is sitting on his ass the whole time we dont have the ball. BULLSHIT!!!

This is what RLC is capable of given a start rather than a 5 minute cameo while we are a goal down. His ball control, ball retention, passing in the close quarters, runs into the box make him a brilliant player. Yes, he is not a "workhorse", but i would take RLC over Ramires. Also, people need to understand that there is a massive difference between not being a work horse and being "LAZY". I even read a post sometime ago which said that since kenedy and traore were starting that proved that RLC must not be "good enough" or must be "lazy". HOGWASH!!!

I just hope managers and players "speak" responsibly because they can have a major impact on such young players. Also, I hope people actually watch rather than making judgements on players. Anyways, I hope the kid keeps on proving his doubters wrong. Onward and Upwards, KID. Get In!!!

[manpe 10,861]

His first full 90 and best game in the first team yet imo. Very well done. And both goals he's scored have been Lampard-esque.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Better, much better.

His natural position has to be where he started today, I think he's really limited sitting deep with Mikel, Matic or whoever the fuck will come as our double-pivot. Playing higher up the pitch you could see the freedom he had to stay that high. Could've walked away with a hat trick today in all honesty. 

Proud of him!

[Last Sicarius 610]

He looks like Lampard when he get into box ^^ Our young future.

[LondonsFinest 692]

Unreal game. Honestly. Great distribution, use of physicality. Yes, he often walks around the pitch. Reason why, IF we invest in him, I hope we Naingollan, so you have a dynamic workhorse, who will free him from 60% of his defensive duties. His one touch passing, his sheer use of body strength to outmuscle opponents and his technique are all there for him to be a bang on box-to-box mid.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

3 minutes ago, Last Sicarius said:

He looks like Lampard when he get into box ^^ Our young future.

Michael Ballack according to Glenn Hoddle, no a bad shout either.

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[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Bench him for Oscar next game.