Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Interesting reading some of the comments in the past. Just shows how quick we are to judge a youngster. I can see the same trend with CHO too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 6 hours ago, killer1257 said: He is our best midfielder we have. Ermmmm, Kante? killer1257 and nyikolajevics 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Ermmmm, Kante? Kante is playing out of position, but yes, Kante is better when he plays as a no. 6. But RLC is in my opinion way better as a no. 8, even though Kante grew on me as a no. 8. If we had a prime Cesc or KDB in our midfield, we would have one of the best midfields in europe. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 5 hours ago, bakayokofan said: Interesting reading some of the comments in the past. Just shows how quick we are to judge a youngster. I can see the same trend with CHO too. Can't speak for anyone else but I stand by the comments back then. He was barely impacting games atall and had little to no tactical nous. His improvement this season has been excellent but previously he looked every bit like one of those "still a prospect at 30" players. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Decision making needs to improve in the final third. Vybz Kartel, xPetrCechx, ja1 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 What exactly is wrong with his back and why is it chronic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jason said: I'm sorry but if the problem is chronic there is no way he should be our long term player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nicco said: I'm sorry but if the problem is chronic there is no way he should be our long term player. Lumbar Lodorsis after doing a bit of research. Will be almost impossible for him to stay fit throughout a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 3.5.2019 at 11:37 AM, Tomo said: Can't speak for anyone else but I stand by the comments back then. He was barely impacting games atall and had little to no tactical nous. His improvement this season has been excellent but previously he looked every bit like one of those "still a prospect at 30" players. The problem is that people judge youth players without ever watching any youth games. I always knew that RLC is going to be an extremly good player, but only as a no. 8. He destroyed players like prime Yaya and Kompany when he played them as a 17 year old kid in a friendly match. Yaya could not handle RLC because RLC was to physical and too fast for him. The problem at Chelsea was that Mou thought that RLC was a no. 6 because of his height and his physique, which is very dumb to think, but that is Mourinho logic. When Conte came, Conte wanted him to play, but he did not have any place for him in a 3-4-3 because there is no real no. 8 in that position, s Conte decided to use him as a striker. When he went on loan playing for Palace, Hodgons played 4-4-2 an he played as a winger, which is also not something he is used to play. So Conte, Mou and Hodgons were not able to give him his best position. RLC will never be an amazing no. 6 or an amazing no. 10. He is an amazing no. 8 because he is fast, can dribble, can tackle, he can shoot and can play good passes. People judged him on performances where he never could show his true value. If they actually watched him play in the youth games, they should have known that he is a no. 8. That is the main issue that people judge youth players without ever watching them play in the youth teams. I see that now with CHO. CHO is not a right winger and he will never be a top class right winger, because he played most of the times as a second striker, main striker or as a left winger. He rarely played as a right winger in the youth team and only in the end of his youth team career. CHO can play as a right winger because he is gifted with amazing talent. He is fast, can cross the ball ( he is the only good crosser in aour entire team), can dribble etc., but when he plays as a left winger or as a second striker, he is a completely different player. manpe and 1905didierblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 2 hours ago, killer1257 said: The problem is that people judge youth players without ever watching any youth games. I always knew that RLC is going to be an extremly good player, but only as a no. 8. He destroyed players like prime Yaya and Kompany when he played them as a 17 year old kid in a friendly match. Yaya could not handle RLC because RLC was to physical and too fast for him. The problem at Chelsea was that Mou thought that RLC was a no. 6 because of his height and his physique, which is very dumb to think, but that is Mourinho logic. When Conte came, Conte wanted him to play, but he did not have any place for him in a 3-4-3 because there is no real no. 8 in that position, s Conte decided to use him as a striker. When he went on loan playing for Palace, Hodgons played 4-4-2 an he played as a winger, which is also not something he is used to play. So Conte, Mou and Hodgons were not able to give him his best position. RLC will never be an amazing no. 6 or an amazing no. 10. He is an amazing no. 8 because he is fast, can dribble, can tackle, he can shoot and can play good passes. People judged him on performances where he never could show his true value. If they actually watched him play in the youth games, they should have known that he is a no. 8. That is the main issue that people judge youth players without ever watching them play in the youth teams. I see that now with CHO. CHO is not a right winger and he will never be a top class right winger, because he played most of the times as a second striker, main striker or as a left winger. He rarely played as a right winger in the youth team and only in the end of his youth team career. CHO can play as a right winger because he is gifted with amazing talent. He is fast, can cross the ball ( he is the only good crosser in aour entire team), can dribble etc., but when he plays as a left winger or as a second striker, he is a completely different player. I saw him at youth level and wasn't sure he would make it, his moments of brilliance where to few and far between and worse, when they came he almost got too satisfied as to say "that's my work done for the next half an hour". I also felt our midfield was a better unit without him playing even though he was the most naturally gifted player there. Johnnyeye and ja1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 17 hours ago, Jason said: Title is a big statement. Hes still got to add more consistency and show he can score 10 and assist 10 goals each sesson from MF at least to be a vital cog in the team so to speak. That was my concern this season for all the dribbling and strength he shows, could he add goals, assists and key passes. He has shown the last few months he is capable. Hopefully next season he kicks on, I think Sarri really has helped him become a very complete player, he can do a bit of everything although I think he can still be ruthless in the final third times he dribbles it or passes it when I think a Lampard or Gerrard would just shoot. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Title is a big statement. Hes still got to add more consistency and show he can score 10 and assist 10 goals each sesson from MF If he can stay fit I can't see it being a problem Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Should be made Captain for next season, definitely the wes and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Should be made Captain for next season, definitely way to early for that but he surely is a great character. you could see how he lifted the team up not only today but numerous times this season and scored some very very important goals. Arguably the goal today and the goal away at cardiff got us back in the CL. When he is fit an in form he really looks like a quicker, bigger, more athletic version of Pogba. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Just go back a year or 2, and look what fans thought of him. Just shows how much we know. Was always talented and showed it at every level that he played. An absolute beast. Keep it up RLC. One of our only bright spots in a season littered with disappointments. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 RLC is such a beast. Loyal, humble and patient now reaping his rewards. Already one of the best young mids in the league. Blue Armour and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 IMO Chick is fundamental for Sarriball. He adds a physical presence that the team lacked for most part of the season. I'm really impressed by this fella. OneMoSalah and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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