BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Why would that matter ? If i was to marry a white woman would that make me less proud of my race (black) ? I know you are an older person but people seriously don't think like that anymore. Biracial people from black and white backgrounds are now one of the fastest growing populations in the land you cant stop people from interacting. If an Indian likes a white girl for example and he marries an Indian just to satisfy his parents then i think that is a travesty.You'd be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Back to JT ...Rather than highlight a huge problem with racism, I think it's stirred up something which wasn't actually there.If no YouTube video had appeared then Ferdinand/QPR/the ref, and therefore the police, media and general public, wouldn't have even noticed anything.I do think there's other reasons involved as to why the Terry incident got to the stage we're at now, there is an agenda there and I think there's people involved who probably couldn't give two shits about racism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Back to JT ...Rather than highlight a huge problem with racism, I think it's stirred up something which wasn't actually there.If no YouTube video had appeared then Ferdinand/QPR/the ref, and therefore the police, media and general public, wouldn't have even noticed anything.I do think there's other reasons involved as to why the Terry incident got to the stage we're at now, there is an agenda there and I think there's people involved who probably couldn't give two shits about racismThey will try and drag this as far as they can. This is the program that the media always start when they want to derail our season with JT taking center stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 They will try and drag this as far as they can. This is the program that the media always start when they want to derail our season with JT taking center stage.Spot on BBOn one side there's a big media campaign to drive hatred towards JT (yet again) with every news bulletin covering the story, phone ins aplenty and every pundit being asked for and giving an opinion. Then on the other side we have someone alleged to have been racist towards someone "at least 10 times" playing for the second biggest club in the country and that's deemed hardly worth a mention....eg in the Sun today you cant leave comments on the Suarez guilty story -but the world and his dog can have their say on the unproven JT gossip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 backward is the very last adjective Id ever use to describe my Asian friends and their culture. They are intelligent , educated hard working and extremely polite.They value education much more highly than we do and teach their children to show respect to teachers and older people.They do discriminate in what they take from our culture while retaining what is best from their own . We have much we could learn from them . I certainlybenefit highly from their friendship.I didn't mean the people themselves. I mean the culture. This is perhaps not the best thread to discuss it, but trust me.. From first hand experience, I know how badly outdated the methods are of the elder generation. Though the one thing I will always have a great deal of respect for about my culture is the family values we hold so dearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I see people are trying to say why media is targeting JT and not Suarez. This is an English media and JT is an England and Chelsea Captain. Allegations against your national team captain is far more serious than allegations against some south American player in only his second season in the country. Obviously that would grab more headlines. Is the England captain JT a racist? Is some south American Liverpool player a racist? Your guess on which one sounds more appealing to read to the general public.There is no agenda and no conspiracy theory. The things r blown out because it involves the England captain at the center stage.The media and the ex black players are still cunt though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 On the other hand I support PART of Blatters comments." Sort it out on the field". Calling a black player a black cunt is NOT racist. If you keep victimizing yourself you will have people targeting you. If you ignore it people won't target you cus you show it doesn't affect you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 On the other hand I support PART of Blatters comments." Sort it out on the field". Calling a black player a black cunt is NOT racist. If you keep victimizing yourself you will have people targeting you. If you ignore it people won't target you cus you show it doesn't affect you.Too right. The Suaréz & Terry incidents are drawing out all the hypocrites at the moment. Defending Suarez's actions then criticising Terry's?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 True, warnie... Suarez has no real obligations to be anything at all, he can be a racist cheating diving cunt all he wants, nobody expects him to be anything but a player for liverpool anyway... But JT is an icon and his duties include being the perfect role model, and when he slips, then leeches are on to him. It's all about how much papers sell. Still don't understand the metro police involvement though, that was uncalled for by the FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 True, warnie... Suarez has no real obligations to be anything at all, he can be a racist cheating diving cunt all he wants, nobody expects him to be anything but a player for liverpool anyway... But JT is an icon and his duties include being the perfect role model, and when he slips, then leeches are on to him. It's all about how much papers sell. Still don't understand the metro police involvement though, that was uncalled for by the FA.Absolutely. JT is an ICON. If he does something wrong the media is going to be all over it as people are more interested to read what the national ICON has done wrong. Who is Suarez? Not even an English player let alone being an English ICoN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 True, warnie... Suarez has no real obligations to be anything at all, he can be a racist cheating diving cunt all he wants, nobody expects him to be anything but a player for liverpool anyway... But JT is an icon and his duties include being the perfect role model, and when he slips, then leeches are on to him. It's all about how much papers sell. Still don't understand the metro police involvement though, that was uncalled for by the FA.Tax-payers' money being used wisely there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 On the other hand I support PART of Blatters comments." Sort it out on the field". Calling a black player a black cunt is NOT racist. If you keep victimizing yourself you will have people targeting you. If you ignore it people won't target you cus you show it doesn't affect you.Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 . Calling a black player a black cunt is NOT racist. .Like to see how long you'd last saying that at Stamford Bridge, or trying to splutter to Mike Tyson after you'd said it...''Bbbbbbut iiits not rrrrracist , Mikey, honest''LMFAO as they say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Like to see how long you'd last saying that at Stamford Bridge, or trying to splutter to Mike Tyson after you'd said it...''Bbbbbbut iiits not rrrrracist , Mikey, honest''LFAO as they sayI know I would be escorted out and probably end up with a black eye and a broken jaw thanks to Mike 'I'm a rapist' Tyson.But it's all right to call Gareth Bale a monkey or a Chimp. Isn't it? How about I call Anton a Chimp? I would be crucified and tagged a racist.Why the bias towards one race in this day and age when we all consider ourselves equal to each other?Would you be offended if you were called a Caucasian cunt? Or a white cunt? I haven't met a single white guy who would say yeah I would e and I would call the black guy racist. As they say I'd LMFAOBlack people make too much of an issue of the color. FFS stop playing victims. If a brown or white man doesn't mind being called a brown or white cunt why should a black man mind? If you have been discriminated based on color then I'd say it's an issue and people responsible should be punished. But that doesn't happen anymore. So what's the big fuss even if JT called Anton a black cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogba11CFC 108 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 What the Sun always tries to do to our title challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Black people make too much of an issue of the color. FFS stop playing victims. If a brown or white man doesn't mind being called a brown or white cunt why should a black man mind?If you have been discriminated based on color then I'd say it's an issue and people responsible should be punished. But that doesn't happen anymore. So what's the big fuss even if JT called Anton a black cuntI agree with the rest of your post, but the bits I quoted.. Really? Come to the UK. Racism is very much alive in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I agree with the rest of your post, but the bits I quoted.. Really? Come to the UK. Racism is very much alive in this country.Ok. I was wrong to say it doesn't happen ANYMORE. But I haven't come across a case for a while where a deserving black player is not selected cus of his color by his white coach who instead selects a less deserving white player.In India it happens too when it comes to caste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I know I would be escorted out and probably end up with a black eye and a broken jaw thanks to Mike 'I'm a rapist' Tyson.But it's all right to call Gareth Bale a monkey or a Chimp. Isn't it? How about I call Anton a Chimp? I would be crucified and tagged a racist.Why the bias towards one race in this day and age when we all consider ourselves equal to each other?Would you be offended if you were called a Caucasian cunt? Or a white cunt?I haven't met a single white guy who would say yeah I would e and I would call the black guy racist. As they say I'd LMFAOBlack people make too much of an issue of the color. FFS stop playing victims. If a brown or white man doesn't mind being called a brown or white cunt why should a black man mind?If you have been discriminated based on color then I'd say it's an issue and people responsible should be punished. But that doesn't happen anymore. So what's the big fuss even if JT called Anton a black cuntI dont know what the law is in the US or India with regard to calling someone a Black Cunt or Black Bastard, but in the UK it is racist.Black people have been the subjugated race for centuries, and the general ruling if I remember from my studying law days is that the ethnicity that is largest can not be a victim of racism. eg calling someone a white bastard would not be considered racist. This may have changed now however as hate crimes encompass all ethnicities.Calling someone a Black cunt in this country is an offence of racism if proven -hence the Police were obliged to investigate the JT case because a member of the public complained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 . But JT is an icon and his duties include being the perfect role model, and when he slips, then leeches are on to him. It's all about how much papers sell. Still don't understand the metro police involvement though, that was uncalled for by the FA.True but you know had it been Rooney or Gerrard not as much been said mean Rooney's affair!! Yeah he may not be England Captain and all but he is still seen for some reason as a good role model...had an affair but yet it was made out it was okay etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Black people have been the subjugated race for centuriesSo? They now have equal rights don't they? What happened centuries ago is past. In this day and age we are all equals. It's the law that different races have in their favor is what makes people hate each other. Hate crimes are different. Hate crimes, discriminating a person based on color are much more serious. In india there are different laws for lower caste people, there are reservations for them in universities and jobs. All this because their ancestors centuries ago were treated like slaves and untouchables. This has made people hate them even more now. As these lower caste people get all the benefits because of reservations ahead of a more deserving upper caste man. A lower caste can get an admission into the best MBA school with a percentile of 85 while a non lower caste misses out even after scoring a percentile of 98.If you want to be considered equal then there should be same laws and regulations for everyone irrespective of their religion, caste, color or ethnicity. You can't have a separate law in favor or a black man or a lower caste indian man and then expect others to treat you equally.Sorry if I digressed from the original topic but people who like playing victims fucking get on my nerves.In other news, Neil Warnock says Anton has been greatly affected by the race row and the international break was a welcome break for him.No Shit Warnock that cunt bought it upon himself. Things could have been sorted out maturely but instead he decided to play victim in the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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