nadavTKL 1,787 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The great advantage of Yaya TOure is that he is the best box to box in the world, physically he is a beast, he can play well in the DM (like he did in Barcelona) but also can play if needed in the most advanced position of the midfield. Yaya is perfect, and so is Pogba.Yaya can't be the best b2b Cm cause he's super lazy. In his Barca days he was a good DM but not anymore, he never showed he's great at both ends in the same time. With Yaya in their line up as the main guy in midfield, City could have never been as good as the Top 3 of Europe. No matter if they grow some balls or had better AM next to Silva. Scoring lots of goals in the EPL doesn't make Yaya a midfielder that could lead a side to a CL success, that's why he always fails against other good midfields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm from Romania so here is what I know about this thing.As you already know, this matter has been taken to the court and the judges have found Adrian Mutu guilty. Not Juventus. So they have decided that Mutu must be the one to pay the money to Chelsea FC and not Juventus.So this isn't Juventus' problem anymore. They owe nothing to Chelsea FC. Chelsea must deal with Adrian Mutu from now on. Of course, there is now another process ongoing as Adrian Mutu chose to defend himself. And as you know, this kind of things could go on for a long, long time (up to even 15-20 years) until the court takes a final and irrevocable consent.Even if the court would decide tomorrow that Adrian Mutu has to pay the money, it would be impossible. He doesn't have enough money, not even 30% of it.Also another thing - there is this guy, Nicu Gheara. You are from Spain so you might have heard about him. If not, Google will come in handy. Unoficially, he is the king of Ibiza. He controlls everthing on that Island. He is friends with Messi, Cristiano, Pique, Shakira, Cesc, Puyol and many others. He is undoubtedly the most powerful Romanian alive and one of the most powerful man in Eastern Europe for sure. Even though he doesn't live in this part of the world. That classic type of mobster.And he is also Adrian Mutu's godfather. His connections go deep into the Russian underworld and rumours say he is trying to cool things down with Roman Abramovich by himself and save Mutu from paying that money. If he didn't do this already, who knows... Finally, to answer your question, no, Juventus owe Chelsea nothing. I'm afraid Chelsea would have to pay Juventus the exact amount they will be asking for Pogba. Thanks friend for your answer.Yes, I also think it will be impossible for us to recover any money by the type of complaint is. Too bad, I was hoping to use this complaint to force Juventus to negotiate, but it is impossible.Sometimes the press puts the price of Pogba are 70 million, but sometimes comment that are 40. I think the price is closer to 40 than 70.Pogba had his contract with Juventus in 2016, but he has renewed his contract this season. Reports have said that is a strategy representative (the Italian Mino Raiola) to sell this season and he carried his share of signing. It would have been a renewal after they agreed to sell Pogba in 2015. If true, I think we would have to try to recruit Pogba.Again, thank you friend, I took a long time with that doubt about Chelsea-Juve-Mutu. Thank you for solve it.Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/248851.html?Very, very, very complicated as I said.That's an article from 2013. Things have changed a bit since then.A couple of days ago a Romanian TV station called Adrian Mutu to interview him during a live show and he declined to go live and said that there is nothing to talk about football as he is not a football player anymore. He has decided to retire.Nobody knew that because there was some news that he could go back to play for Fiorentina this season. Or go to India.But the Romanian journalists have made some digging in the last few days and found out that there is a possibility in which he could be saved from paying that money to Chelsea FC if he is not an active football player anymore.Things are way too complicated I'm afraid...Could be that Mutu have to pay this amount of money if he wants to continue playing professional football, but if he is not playing professionally again, Chelsea could claim that amount to the Juventu, because it has already been a resolution in which they said that someone, or Mutu Juventus, Chelsea must indemnify by the illegal transfer. Juventus there will probably relied too, and this may be the never ending story. We may get our money, but in many years.I think if there is any possibility that Juventus have to pay us an amount of money for the transfer of Mutu, we should we use that amount to negotiate with Pogba Juventus. Maybe if they, whom should we nearly 23.40 million (€ 30 million), made us a discount on the price Pogba us maybe we could drop the complaint and close the matter.Maybe it's the only way to recover some money. If not, maybe we never see any money.This is a very confusing subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yes, he is a monster. Outstanding player and he's only 21 years old. Its only a dream, but imagine that:Matic - PogbaReus - Cesc - HazardCosta Enormous combination.That team right there can dominate the league and Europe for years. If only we could be more ambitious to go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Chelsea on alert after Paul Pogba’s agent makes Juventus exit claimhttp://metro.co.uk/2015/01/13/chelsea-on-alert-after-paul-pogbas-agent-makes-juventus-exit-claim-5020323/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 When you go after Pogba, you are not merely thinking of the player he is now, but also the player the may become. Unfortunately, "the player he may become" seems to be already accounted for in the price.He's still a bit inconsistent, which is only natural being so young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 To be really honest, if we had to choose between Reus or Pogba. I would take Pogba in a heartbeat, image a midfield trio of Matic/Cesc/Pogba... that would be godlike. Aside from Real, i can't see him going anywhere else than us (maybe City). There is also the fact Mourinho really likes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yes, he is a monster. Outstanding player and he's only 21 years old. Its only a dream, but imagine that:Matic - PogbaReus - Cesc - HazardCosta Enormous combination.As exciting as that team would be, i wouldn't want to be the manager for sure due to the enormous pressure and expectations to win virtually every major titles/competitions with that team. Especially with the retarded English media, they had expect you to win all the 38 games plus the UCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He's not the next Yaya and I doubt he will ever be as good as him either. yaya is one of a kind and a generational talent/player but I do get the comparison as they have similar built and technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 There is also the fact Mourinho really likes him. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Source? https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-rio-report/mourinho-world-cup-picks-why-pogba-caught-eye-113344720.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He's not the next Yaya and I doubt he will ever be as good as him either. yaya is one of a kind and a generational talent/player but I do get the comparison as they have similar built and technique.Is Pogba a fast player?I have never seen him actually in a sprint and Yaya is famous for his 40 meter sprint,which is cause every defense a lot of trouble.I have never seen a player,who is that big,has that kind of technique and can sprint that fast.Moreover,his shooting technique is so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Isn't Pogba more of a 10? What is hos true position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Isn't Pogba more of a 10? What is hos true position?Central midfielder, box-to-box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission 97 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The problem with not looking at Pogba, or any other established central midfielder at the moment, is the fact that there are no pivots in the squad that mirror the quality that Cesc and Matic produce. The strain on those players is as conspicuous as ever; a strain that will only be intensified when the team start encountering double legged fixtures in multiple competitions for the latter half of the year. Splashing the dough in January isn't a necessity, but shows an apathetic attitude for the absence of squad stability, in comparison to say Manchester City's. Mourinho will only be putting all his eggs into one basket if nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,064 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He is the best midfielder in the world at the moment, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission 97 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He is the best midfielder in the world at the moment, IMO.Are you okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,064 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Are you okay?I'm taking all round (whole package). Some players might be better passers, tacklers, etc.P.S. I'm fine. [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 He's not the next Yaya and I doubt he will ever be as good as him either. yaya is one of a kind and a generational talent/player but I do get the comparison as they have similar built and technique.Toure is a great player but he's not that good. His performances in Europe have been very disappointing.Pogba can definitely surpass him. He's already at an incredible level for a player his age. This is the third season he's producing the goods, this is no fluke. Some exaggerate his ability but he is capable of producing some top-notch performances from time to time. That's the sign of a player with outstanding potential. Also very important, he seems to be very level-headed and focused. It doesn't look like the fame and the hype have taken over his life, neither does he seem to be dragged down by the pressure surrounding him. No fitness problems either.Varane and Pogba are the young players I find the most impressing. It's weird how they're both French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Isn't Pogba more of a 10? What is hos true position?Midfielder, but really you can't say more specifically than that.He likes to play with total freedom and he is granted that at Juve. He's played deep in central midfield, box-to-box and as an attacking midfield. Under Allegri he's mostly played at left midfield.But to go back to your question, no, he's not by any means a typical creative number 10. When he has played in that area, he does a role similar to what Yaya used to for City when played in an advanced role under Mancini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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