kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Just because they both played well in the same game does not necessarily mean they'd have to develop identically. They don't even play in the same position I don't think; Chalobah's future belongs at centre half. Ours is a great player to be, the other is a great player now in his own merit.This is why I have not been so keen on chalobah slotting in our midfield. I've watched more games of him as a centreback than midfield. He looks a more assured centreback to me, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I feel Nat could be dominant at both positions, but he's getting at that age where it needs to be decided once and for all what his main position will be though. I don't mind either because the kid is insanely talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I feel Nat could be dominant at both positions, but he's getting at that age where it needs to be decided once and for all what his main position will be though. I don't mind either because the kid is insanely talented.Yeah...We don't want him to be our Phil Jones( without the crazy faces)- insanely adaptive but not settling or very good at any role.He would have been the perfect CB for England if he hadn't been playing RB and CDM intermittently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Express saying Juve have told Chelsea they'll have to pay about £40million for Pogba, and they're willing to sell to fund a bid for Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I don't know what the 4-3-3 has to do with anything because from what I see José has been playing a 4-2-3-1.A 4-3-3 it's the same. Mourinho played with a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-1-1-1-3 or whatever you want to call it in Madrid for example.1 defendive midfielder (Alonso who is not in my opinion the best defensive midfielder a team can have), 1 box to box with Khedira and a number 10.with Ozil.The position where Essien, Mikel, Cambiasso, Makelele play, it's not the same where RAmires, Khedira or Schweinsteiger play.Mostly because the the box to bnox does the connection, but also because they play 10 meters in front of the defensive midfielder and that's really important for examp+le in the way they receive the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1586588/juventus-ordered-pay-mutu-compensation-chelsea?cc=3888They know who to give us to settle this mess :eyebrows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,422 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1586588/juventus-ordered-pay-mutu-compensation-chelsea?cc=3888They know who to give us to settle this mess :eyebrows:agreed subtract that from the price of pogba or vidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1586588/juventus-ordered-pay-mutu-compensation-chelsea?cc=3888They know who to give us to settle this mess :eyebrows:LOL We actually won that?! Roman must know some insanely good lawyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 agreed subtract that from the price of pogba or vidal They'll never give us vidal, not even a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 LOL We actually won that?! Roman must know some insanely good lawyers! its roman we talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 LOL We actually won that?! Roman must know some insanely good lawyers! My thoughts exactly. Won't matter much though, I feel the club will never see any of that money because Juventus and Livorno will appeal again and again as long as it takes and the case will go on and eventually be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 takes and the case will go on and eventually be forgotten Yeah because law cases are just "forgotten" like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Yeah because law cases are just "forgotten" like this! What I meant was that if (when) Juventus and Livorno will keep appealing against this IMO unfair verdict then sooner or later they will get the case thrown or Chelsea give up on the matter, whichever comes first. Would be more than happy to be proven wrong and see the Italian clubs pay what they've been ordered to but I'm afraid this will drag on for at least another few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What I meant was that if (when) Juventus and Livorno will keep appealing against this IMO unfair verdict then sooner or later they will get the case thrown or Chelsea give up on the matter, whichever comes first. Would be more than happy to be proven wrong and see the Italian clubs pay what they've been ordered to but I'm afraid this will drag on for at least another few years.What I ment is you just can't keep appealing, It doesn't work like that, in some time this money wiil be in Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What I meant was that if (when) Juventus and Livorno will keep appealing against this IMO unfair verdict then sooner or later they will get the case thrown or Chelsea give up on the matter, whichever comes first. Would be more than happy to be proven wrong and see the Italian clubs pay what they've been ordered to but I'm afraid this will drag on for at least another few years.They can only appeal once at the CAS, which already is the highest instance. so they case will be resolved within the next 2 years or so. But the amount they owe to Chelsea grows by 4% per year so it won't get any cheaper for them. Didn't we already get 14m fromm Mutu himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 They can only appeal once at the CAS, which already is the highest instance. so they case will be resolved within the next 2 years or so. But the amount they owe to Chelsea grows by 4% per year so it won't get any cheaper for them. Didn't we already get 14m fromm Mutu himself?Okay, I'll take your word for it. And no, Mutu didn't pay anything or otherwise we wouldn't be in this situation now. I don't really understand why he wasn't held responsible for his actions and forced to pay everything he possibly could by selling his house etc. and the rest little by little from his wages. He'd have been properly fucked but no one forced him to do cocaine so hard to feel sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 His potential is very Makelele like. He might have different body structure, but his abilities are same. He has superb ball control, balance and vison, he can tackle and is very strong. At this age, he is showing impressive skills already and seems to have right character (bit cocky, but a hard worker too). Should he stay couple more years in juve and learn from brilliant Pirlo how to control game and tempi and understand tactical part of game (which should, considering he plays in Serie A), he will be hell of a player. This kind of player could eventualy become key to any team, just like Makelele was despite Real having all those stars, he was the motor. And such complete midfielders are very rare nowdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 His potential is very Makelele like. He might have different body structure, but his abilities are same. He has superb ball control, balance and vison, he can tackle and is very strong. At this age, he is showing impressive skills already and seems to have right character (bit cocky, but a hard worker too). Should he stay couple more years in juve and learn from brilliant Pirlo how to control game and tempi and understand tactical part of game (which should, considering he plays in Serie A), he will be hell of a player. This kind of player could eventualy become key to any team, just like Makelele was despite Real having all those stars, he was the motor. And such complete midfielders are very rare nowdays.Makelele was far from a complete midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Makelele was far from a complete midfielder.And Pogba is far from Makalele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Makelele was far from a complete midfielder.I would have him over any CM/DM nowdays. He was master tackler, tactician and also controled game from deep. What else to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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