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They said on Eurosport that Real Madrid have seen their €65m plus two players offer refused today. Apparently Juventus want Di Maria included in the deal.

The guy is worth every penny, no doubt about that, but how much were talking about if Juventus will keep refusing offers like that? I just have a feeling Mourinho won't go that far...

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They said on Eurosport that Real Madrid have seen their €65m plus two players offer refused today. Apparently Juventus want Di Maria included in the deal.

The guy is worth every penny, no doubt about that, but how much were talking about if Juventus will keep refusing offers like that? I just have a feeling Mourinho won't go that far...

Jose don't have a choice, it is the club who will be deciding his price. Jose can only give his recommendations...etc and tell the club the players he wants to bring in. But yh I agree 65m is way too much for him, even then Juve is essentially demanding over 100m worth seeing as Di Maria is 40m alone by himself. So I think we should let this go.

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And for those whining about prices spinning out of control, lets not forget our very own club are part responsible for that occurring.

How is making a comment about the unsustainable transfer prices whining?

What you fail to reference in your comment is that our purchases were Pre-FFP...

The majority of clubs agreed to FFP (us included) - PSG and City are both currently 'under sanction' of FFP - for them to be able to splash out €65 million is absurd.

Yes we wasted the same amount (rough pound to euro conversion) on Torres. But that was out of desperation.

There's also no guarantee that a Seria A player will perform in the EPL - remember Uniteds costly mistake on Veron?

I just don't see this happening - it's going against everything the club has been trying to achieve.

Would I want him here? Maybe

Is he as good as everyone is making out? Possibly...

Is it a huge gamble - Yes...

Am I sick of huge gambles - Yes...

Shaw for £30million + Pogba for £55 million and Costa for £35 million = £120 million (less £40 from Luiz) is still a net spend of £80 million... If we can offload some more players it 'might' happen - but that's a lot of money...

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Would I want him here? Maybe

Is he as good as everyone is making out? Possibly...

Is it a huge gamble - Yes...

Am I sick of huge gambles - Yes...

Shaw for £30million + Pogba for £55 million and Costa for £35 million = £120 million (less £40 from Luiz) is still a net spend of £80 million... If we can offload some more players it 'might' happen - but that's a lot of money...

https://twitter.com/jakefcohen/status/471635799637651456

We can afford that quite comfortably.

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How is making a comment about the unsustainable transfer prices whining?

What you fail to reference in your comment is that our purchases were Pre-FFP...

The majority of clubs agreed to FFP (us included) - PSG and City are both currently 'under sanction' of FFP - for them to be able to splash out €65 million is absurd.

Yes we wasted the same amount (rough pound to euro conversion) on Torres. But that was out of desperation.

There's also no guarantee that a Seria A player will perform in the EPL - remember Uniteds costly mistake on Veron?

I just don't see this happening - it's going against everything the club has been trying to achieve.

Would I want him here? Maybe

Is he as good as everyone is making out? Possibly...

Is it a huge gamble - Yes...

Am I sick of huge gambles - Yes...

Shaw for £30million + Pogba for £55 million and Costa for £35 million = £120 million (less £40 from Luiz) is still a net spend of £80 million... If we can offload some more players it 'might' happen - but that's a lot of money...

Because whining about something when you are apart of the problem is stupid. FFP was implemented to stop teams like Chelsea, City, PSG from driving up market prices... Chelsea agreed to FFP because it basically safeguards them against another team doing exactly what they've done.

Torres was not out of desperation, the owner simply liked him and wanted him... there was nothing desperate about it, luxury buy at its finest.

I really hate when people paint each player from another league with the same brush. I mean its the stupidest argument that can be made... "Player X didn't do well in the Prem so there's no guarantee Player Y will either" Let me tell you something Muzchap, there is no guarantee on ANYTHING, Messi could come here and fail. It has nothing to do with the league just the make up of the player, some adjust and others don't.

What exactly does the club stand for again? I mean according to you of course?

If you can come up with one name that wouldn't be a gamble I would love to hear it. No transfer comes without inherit risk... You basically hedge your bets against risk vs reward and quite honestly, Pogba is the type of player I'd like to see the club gamble on. If he reaches his potential we have a Yaya Toure type figure at the club for maybe 10+ seasons.

I don't want Shaw at £30m, no one knows what Pogba is valued at, I've seen £50m which I wouldn't hesitate to pay. Costa at 32m is not bad if he works out to be the player we need. Chelsea spent 31m on Willian, 20m on Schurrle, 8m on Van Ginkel, 5.5m on Atsu... That was considered a slow summer for Chelsea and we spent something like 63M.... 80M is not a huge amount of money for this club.

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You basically hedge your bets against risk vs reward and quite honestly, Pogba is the type of player I'd like to see the club gamble on.

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How is spending this much money on Pogba 'hedging our bets'? This amount of money is an insane gamble, much like the Torres deal and that had ramifications much further down the line. You said yourself that last Summer we spent this much money on 4 players - that's hedging your bets/spreading the risk.

The figures being bandied about for Pogba would make him the joint-fifth most expensive player of all time yet that seems acceptable to some?

If you can come up with one name that wouldn't be a gamble I would love to hear it.

Chalobah. He's still a gamble but there's no money attached since we own him.

Similarly Tiago would be a smaller gamble since he's free and a proven quantity in more ways.

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How is spending this much money on Pogba 'hedging our bets'? This amount of money is an insane gamble, much like the Torres deal and that had ramifications much further down the line. You said yourself that last Summer we spent this much money on 4 players - that's hedging your bets/spreading the risk.

The figures being bandied about for Pogba would make him the joint-fifth most expensive player of all time yet that seems acceptable to some?

Chalobah. He's still a gamble but there's no money attached since we own him.

Similarly Tiago would be a smaller gamble since he's free and a proven quantity in more ways.

funny Shaw is a lock at 30m but Pogba who is already burgeoning world class at 21 is an insane gamble... Dude your English bias is duly noted.

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funny Shaw is a lock at 30m but Pogba who is already burgeoning world class at 21 is an insane gamble... Dude your English bias is duly noted.

Shaw is not a 'lock'. He's a massive gamble. Pogba at more than twice that price is also a massive gamble.

I'm still intrigued by your use of the phrase 'hedging your bets' when you're talking about committing so much money towards Pogba.

As for my bias towards English players, I think we need an English core at this club. I also like Shaw for purely sentimental reasons as well, which I've never really denied.

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Chalobah who is currently struggling to be a consistent player in the championship is the guy we should hedge our bets on guys. He will come back to Chelsea and save us money(which clearly isn't even required) and perform better than he did at Middlesborough because he's English and that good.

Why spend 50m on Pogba who is considered the next Yaya when we don't have to spend a penny on Chalobah and Tiago???


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If we signed Shaw, Pogba, and Costa we'd dominate and win this league at a canter. We have the funds to do so and some are against that. I understand that some of you want to "bring in the kids," but that should be done on merit and not just "because." If the better ones go on Premier League loans for a year or two and stand out THEN they can be given a shot in the first team. Some of you are talking about taking 17 or 18 year old teenagers who have been playing at Championship or U21 level and throwing them into the first team at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Astounding to me.

Send Chalobah, RLC, Lew Baker, Bamford, etc to bottom table Prem sides for a season or two and see if they're ready. In the mean time we need players who are proven at the highest level and can help us win NOW.

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