King11Didier 916 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I think Zouma will have problems in the beginning but he could be very solid for us in the future. Everyone has to start from somewhere and I think this is the perfect time for Zouma after many, many mistakes form Cahill this season. I don't know what Mourinho thinks and what he'll do, but keeping Cahill im XI will be mistake. EMK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 he has been embarrassing all seasonStop over-exaggerating. You obviously have not watched us for majority of the season.it seems he is a coward as well as a hopeless footballer. nothing to like about him. Sheffield turdYou are the fucking coward. Writing bullshit over the internet about one of our players who even if he makes mistakes, tries to give his all every game. Fucking idiot. Hate comments like this who personally abuse our own players for no valid reason. Abuse him for his football abilities, no need to get personal.He should at least be rested for a few games, Zouma can easily fill his shoes for the interim and it will be valuable experience for the fella. Also bench Ivan indefinitely or retrain him as a CB, we are only cheating ourselves by not using Azpi on the right.Recall Bertrand for next summer please, no need to spend when we have our own in house one ready as a backup.Why can Zouma easily do it? He has looked decent so far but let's be honest, he hardly has faced any stern tests. Cahill is used as the scapegoat far too often. He got run ragged yesterday but was not helped by the majority of his team mates. Cahill has several solid games this season and has some average ones but the extent of criticism is way OTT. Anyone who refuses to accept this is just being one-sided. There is a reason Mourinho continues to play him and I am sure if Mourinho read all these comments on Cahill, he would be laughing. Zouma on the other hand was dropped by St Etienne last season after initially having a place in the starting team. They are much inferior than us so why can he easily fill Cahill's shoes if he was relegated to the bench at St Etienne? We have kept an abundance of clean sheets this season and it seems people are purposely ignoring this and acting as if he has been poor for the whole season which is just not true. I am for giving Zouma a chance but it is not a simple job where he can easily take Cahill's role in the team.Regarding Bertrand I would love to see him here as our LB but the reality is it is not going to happen and Southampton will most certainly buy him on a permanent basis in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Stop over-exaggerating. You obviously have not watched us for majority of the season.You are the fucking coward. Writing bullshit over the internet about one of our players who even if he makes mistakes, tries to give his all every game. Fucking idiot. Hate comments like this who personally abuse our own players for no valid reason. Abuse him for his football abilities, no need to get personal.Why can Zouma easily do it? He has looked decent so far but let's be honest, he hardly has faced any stern tests. Cahill is used as the scapegoat far too often. He got run ragged yesterday but was not helped by the majority of his team mates. Cahill has several solid games this season and has some average ones but the extent of criticism is way OTT. Anyone who refuses to accept this is just being one-sided. There is a reason Mourinho continues to play him and I am sure if Mourinho read all these comments on Cahill, he would be laughing. Zouma on the other hand was dropped by St Etienne last season after initially having a place in the starting team. They are much inferior than us so why can he easily fill Cahill's shoes if he was relegated to the bench at St Etienne? We have kept an abundance of clean sheets this season and it seems people are purposely ignoring this and acting as if he has been poor for the whole season which is just not true. I am for giving Zouma a chance but it is not a simple job where he can easily take Cahill's role in the team.Regarding Bertrand I would love to see him here as our LB but the reality is it is not going to happen and Southampton will most certainly buy him on a permanent basis in the summer.piss off stats. i just dont appreciate our players kicking and stamping on opponents. its cowardly. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 piss off stats. i just dont appreciate our players kicking and stamping on opponents. its cowardly. You know what. I shouldn't have snapped like that. I do value your comments on here so I apologize for snapping like that that but regarding Cahill, it was silly what he done but it was hardly 'violent conduct'. Kane didn't even make anything of it which says it all. He should have been sent off but it was not that violent which is why F.A are not taking retrospective action over it. But the abuse you gave him is a bit OTT mate come on. That is very harsh. Just thought that was unnecessary mate. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 There was a time we had CarvalhoAnd Alex what a beast he was Clevemayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You know what. I shouldn't have snapped like that. I do value your comments on here so I apologize for snapping like that that but regarding Cahill, it was silly what he done but it was hardly 'violent conduct'. Kane didn't even make anything of it which says it all. He should have been sent off but it was not that violent which is why F.A are not taking retrospective action over it. But the abuse you gave him is a bit OTT mate come on. That is very harsh. Just thought that was unnecessary mate.ok im sorry. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Stop over-exaggerating. You obviously have not watched us for majority of the season.You are the fucking coward. Writing bullshit over the internet about one of our players who even if he makes mistakes, tries to give his all every game. Fucking idiot. Hate comments like this who personally abuse our own players for no valid reason. Abuse him for his football abilities, no need to get personal.Why can Zouma easily do it? He has looked decent so far but let's be honest, he hardly has faced any stern tests. Cahill is used as the scapegoat far too often. He got run ragged yesterday but was not helped by the majority of his team mates. Cahill has several solid games this season and has some average ones but the extent of criticism is way OTT. Anyone who refuses to accept this is just being one-sided. There is a reason Mourinho continues to play him and I am sure if Mourinho read all these comments on Cahill, he would be laughing. Zouma on the other hand was dropped by St Etienne last season after initially having a place in the starting team. They are much inferior than us so why can he easily fill Cahill's shoes if he was relegated to the bench at St Etienne? We have kept an abundance of clean sheets this season and it seems people are purposely ignoring this and acting as if he has been poor for the whole season which is just not true. I am for giving Zouma a chance but it is not a simple job where he can easily take Cahill's role in the team.Regarding Bertrand I would love to see him here as our LB but the reality is it is not going to happen and Southampton will most certainly buy him on a permanent basis in the summer.I don't have enough knowledge of the French league to refute this point, but the fact is that in the games he's played for us, he has been rock solid. Sporting are not a shit team, and in EPL terms they would be at least in the top half of the table. Derby are a strong contender for promotion from the Ch'ship, not exactly the worst team out there, and although his spell in the Derby game was cut short, he was again solid throughout. You cannot deny that Cahill at least needs a game off, and it shows. Once Terry and Matic go below exemplary performances, the right side completely collapses due to Ivanovic believing he's a winger in disguise and Cahill simply not being above par.It's true Cahill is a decent defender, and could happily play off the bench if we were to buy, say, Varane, but Chelsea are not an average team. We're supposed to be up there with Real and Bayern, but yet people accept a defence that can only prop up the team when Matic is shielding them. Willian and Schurrle are average attackers, and people here are asking them to be crucified for their failure to support Hazard and Costa.I know Bertrand almost certainly won't be coming back...but he should be, and the board are fools not to have kept him here, after all, how much longer can Ivanovic fill in for RB?I miss Desailly... The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Simply not good enough. Needs to be replaced but by who ? World class CD's are a rare breed to find these days. Zouma is a good prospect but i think he still has plenty to learn before we make him a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kaplan- 410 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 People calling for injuries on their own player....wtf. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 People calling for injuries on their own player....wtf.It's for the greater good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 needs to sit a few games out and contemplate life Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthKorea 38 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I could of swore people calling me an arsenal loving cu** for saying Kos was better than cahill and best in the epl and how the chelsea setup hide his mediocrity....Interesting few comments on the last few threads... People see what I saw a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Torres, Ramires, Oscar, Mikel, now Cahill. Who's next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I could of swore people calling me an arsenal loving cu** for saying Kos was better than cahill and best in the epl and how the chelsea setup hide his mediocrity....Interesting few comments on the last few threads... People see what I saw a long time ago.LOL, yet Kosciely had a nightmare in his last PL outing himself. Koscielny is a very good defender but has made several errors himself. He leads the list iirc for the amount of penalties conceded. Koscielny is not helped by the two CM in front of him and neither was Cahill. didierforever and jeronimo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthKorea 38 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 LOL, yet Kosciely had a nightmare in his last PL outing himself. Koscielny is a very good defender but has made several errors himself. He leads the list iirc for the amount of penalties conceded. Koscielny is not helped by the two CM in front of him and neither was Cahill.Kos is 10x better than cahill ever was.Like I said a few months ago, put Kos on Chelsea, and he will be labeled as "world class." Kos is the epl's best defender now and for the past few seasons. You can say that kompany is great and all, but demichellis is holding his weight up well without him.Difference is matic and cesc vs chambers and coquelin.... When you are a proactive defender, you concede pks and fouls.. When your gary cahill, who is far from a proactive defender, you don't. People criticize proactive defenders like kos, ramos, pepe, mascherano, puyol, benatia and boateng, when they make mistakes, but I rather take a proactive defender than gary cahill. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lol you people bashing Cahill ?Haha this forum..Had a bad game but what about this whole season ?Cahill has been shit since the season started..he should be playing for stoke or another bottom team.. Unfortunately he is probably still A tad bit better than zouma is at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! didierforever 7,349 Posted January 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 5, 2015 did people even see soton vs arsenal? koscielny and world class, 2 things i never thought i would read together. grass is greener effect at its best. MichaelDance, Mana, pHaRaOn and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I could of swore people calling me an arsenal loving cu** for saying Kos was better than cahill and best in the epl and how the chelsea setup hide his mediocrity....Interesting few comments on the last few threads... People see what I saw a long time ago."Better than Cahill" and "best in the EPL" are two VERY distinct things. If you say that Koscielny is better than Cahill then I'd say that that's a fair-minded observation. But if you say that he's the best in the EPL a head of JT and Kompany, then, yes, I would probably think you're a deluded Arsenal fan. Blue Armour and MichaelDance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthKorea 38 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 "Better than Cahill" and "best in the EPL" are two VERY distinct things. If you say that Koscielny is better than Cahill then I'd say that that's a fair-minded observation. But if you say that he's the best in the EPL a head of JT and Kompany, then, yes, I would probably think you're a deluded Arsenal fan.Kompany hasn't been good for 2 years. John terry has a lot of physical limitations at his age. Kos would start on chelsea and be titled world class as luiz was for a period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 From hero to zero in less than 4.34 milliseconds. This forum tho. Svita 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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