Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Why? What do you have against him???Robinho currently plays in the Milan first team, and he has won several trophies!2 - Spanish League2 - Brasilian league1 - Italian League1 - Spanish Cup1 - Brasilian Cup1 - Italian Cup1 - American Cup1 - Confederations CupSo your "Flop" is no-sense Those cups mean shit when football is a team based game, How the media portrayed him as the next big thing, then once he hit Europe, was average at best. Pele is trying to Protect Neymar by keeping him Brazil while the media continues to kiss his ass, just like pele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Those cups mean shit when football is a team based game,How the media portrayed him as the next big thing, then once he hit Europe, was average at best.Pele is trying to Protect Neymar by keeping him Brazil while the media continues to kiss his ass, just like peleBlablablabla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Blablablabla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Why? What do you have against him???Robinho currently plays in the Milan first team, and he has won several trophies!2 - Spanish League2 - Brasilian league1 - Italian League1 - Spanish Cup1 - Brasilian Cup1 - Italian Cup1 - American Cup1 - Confederations CupSo your "Flop" is no-sense Wes Brown's trophy haul5 Premier League's2 FA Cup's3 League Cup's2 Champion's league'syou were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I like neymar but braziillian does not really thrive in pl, so paying 40 m is too big of a gamble.I think gotze is too expensive for everybody right now.I think we can get Hazard fo 25-30m, so I'll go with hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Whether you agree or not, Neymar is playing in Brazil whilst Hazard will move to the world's strongest league in the summer and Gotze is playing for the champions of Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wes Brown's trophy haul5 Premier League's2 FA Cup's3 League Cup's2 Champion's league'syou were saying?Wes Brown is a "flop"? I think not, same case of Robinho!Whether you agree or not, Neymar is playing in Brazil whilst Hazard will move to the world's strongest league in the summer and Gotze is playing for the champions of Germany.Whether you agree or not, Neymar is playing for the Champions of America Cup whilst Hazard will move to the world's strongest league in the summer and Gotze is playing for the champions of Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wes Brown is a "flop"? I think not, same case of Robinho!Point is you can't judge players on trophy haul's alone, otherwise Benni McCarthy would be better than Fat Ronaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Point is you can't judge players on trophy haul's alone, otherwise Benni McCarthy would be better than Fat Ronaldo.Are you kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wes Brown is a "flop"? I think not, same case of Robinho!Whether you agree or not, Neymar is playing for the Champions of America Cup whilst Hazard will move to the world's strongest league in the summer and Gotze is playing for the champions of Germany.So what? Hazard and Gotze are Champions League quality players. Champions League > Copa LibertadoresPlus Gotze is playing at the European Championships, and the quality of the major European teams (ie. Germany and Spain) currently outweight the best the Latin Americans can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 So what? Hazard and Gotze are Champions League quality players. Champions League > Copa LibertadoresPlus Gotze is playing at the European Championships, and the quality of the major European teams (ie. Germany and Spain) currently outweight the best the Latin Americans can offer.Are you sure? Do you follow America Football??? I think not.. but anyway Neymar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hazard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Do you follow German or French football? I think not, if you consider Neymar to be better than Hazard or Gotze. He is overrated because he is considered the saviour of a Brazil team in decline. He is a very good player, but very selfish and ignorant of his team-mates. His style of play is very much one-dimensional, and if he ever came up against a disciplined defence or a team that employs a destroyer like de Jong, he would end up running off crying. He's not even half as good as Messi was at his age. He is a talented footballer, but he is not an intelligent one like Gotze or Hazard. His play is not mature enough to play regularly for a big European team, and he knows it. Gotze would walk into any midfield bar Barcelona's, and Hazard would be first choice at any club besides the Big Three (Barca, Real and Bayern).I am going to say no more on this because it is clear we will both have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 And honestly, the only one who can stop Messi in Ballon d'Or trophy is Neymar... Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta? no way! Just Neymar!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Do you follow German or French football? I think not, if you consider Neymar to be better than Hazard or Gotze. He is overrated because he is considered the saviour of a Brazil team in decline. He is a very good player, but very selfish and ignorant of his team-mates. His style of play is very much one-dimensional, and if he ever came up against a disciplined defence or a team that employs a destroyer like de Jong, he would end up running off crying. He's not even half as good as Messi was at his age. He is a talented footballer, but he is not an intelligent one like Gotze or Hazard. His play is not mature enough to play regularly for a big European team, and he knows it. Gotze would walk into any midfield bar Barcelona's, and Hazard would be first choice at any club besides the Big Three (Barca, Real and Bayern).I am going to say no more on this because it is clear we will both have to agree to disagree.Brazil team in decline?Neymar...Lucas Moura..Hulk...Ganso...Hernanes...Thiago Silva...Luiz...Dani Alves...Marcelo...Soon Piazon.....Hmmm!!!I am going to say no more on this because it is clear we will both have to agree to disagree.Totally Agree... I will stop too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 JoulJoul might be one of the most illogical, irrational, laughable members so far, way to make an entrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Neymar has more athleticism than the other two? And is he far younger? wtf i never heard about that Neymar.on the age i'll correct myself, neymar is a year younger than hazard and a few months older than gotzeon the subject of athleticism its not really close. gotze has good mobility but he doesn't really have much pace, a good burst but not much flat out. same with hazard, they are both pretty agile players though. in comparison to neymar they don't have the flat out pace, agility or burst of speed that the brazilian does, and neymar also has phenomenal balance and an underrated ability in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Do you follow German or French football? I think not, if you consider Neymar to be better than Hazard or Gotze. He is overrated because he is considered the saviour of a Brazil team in decline. He is a very good player, but very selfish and ignorant of his team-mates. His style of play is very much one-dimensional, and if he ever came up against a disciplined defence or a team that employs a destroyer like de Jong, he would end up running off crying. He's not even half as good as Messi was at his age. He is a talented footballer, but he is not an intelligent one like Gotze or Hazard. His play is not mature enough to play regularly for a big European team, and he knows it. Gotze would walk into any midfield bar Barcelona's, and Hazard would be first choice at any club besides the Big Three (Barca, Real and Bayern).I am going to say no more on this because it is clear we will both have to agree to disagree.its worth considering that all the players mentioned enjoy a league that suits perfectly their style of play, and they're all totally different than the english game.re-reading that post i quoted, messi was being coddled on the wing for a very long time... and he was also taking enormous amounts of testosterone. neymar has comparable technique to messi right now. to be fair, messi has always relied mostly on his outstanding balance, lower body strength and ball control which is a lot different to neymar. the brazilian is more of a trickster, he passes and moves, and uses his agility to create shooting opportunities from anywhere he happens to be whereas messi is more the type to make gutsy runs through the middle of defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 if we stick to 433 i don't see how Gotze will fit. Neymar is off to spain i think. with hazard its strange. If we beat Arsenal for top 4 then that's a plus. If Rednapp leaves spurs for England, that might help us. But I've always rated Di Maria over all 3of these "posers" ooooooooooooooooo did i just say that?!?!?! just kidding, but i do rate Di Maria over these 3 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Brazil team in decline?Neymar...Lucas Moura..Hulk...Ganso...Hernanes...Thiago Silva...Luiz...Dani Alves...Marcelo...Soon Piazon.....Hmmm!!!Totally Agree... I will stop too!The Germans are now better than Brazil but in 2002 Brazil was indeed better than Germany. I don't know if they have been in decline but...NeuerLahmSchweinsteigerGomezGotzeMullerSchurleOzilKhediraHummelsHoltbyTraschReusAnd that is off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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