Jase 43,479 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Does Willian lose the ball more frequently than Pulisic? Does Pulisic dispossess players at the rate Willian does? Does Pulisic cross the ball as much as Willian? I am a fan of Pulisic and he has great potential, but do you really believe he has as good of an all around game as Willian? Not sure how you can say Willian has 'an all round game' when he's found massively wanting offensively. Put it this way, Willian is basically a defensive winger while Pulisic is an attacking winger. Pulisic has time on his side and can get better on the defensive side of things but Willian has been here for ages and I'm not even sure he has genuinely improved in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Willian is consistent and doesn't dissappear for long stretches of the game. he has TWO league goals since October, both in the same game!!!! he doesn't disappear for stretches in games he disappears for MONTHS I can but take so much of the gaslighting that has went on for multiple years over certain players Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Atomiswave and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, milka said: lololol 150m will barely cover Sancho smdh bigbluewillie, communicate and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, killer1257 said: Willian is One of the worst crossers I have seen Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk up there with Kante, Alonso, Emerson, and Azpi (from the left he is so poor) killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Jason said: Not sure how you can say Willian has 'an all round game' when he's found massively wanting offensively. Put it this way, Willian is basically a defensive winger while Pulisic is an attacking winger. Pulisic has time on his side and can get better on the defensive side of things but Willian has been here for ages and I'm not even sure he has genuinely improved in any way. closest he will get to all-round is if/when he gets that fro truly pimped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaynChelsea 423 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 LOL @people defending Conte. Conte has been an arrogant prick shitting on everything our club stands for. He had his agenda and did fuck all for us but promote his ego. Good riddance. Don‘t even compare him with a legend like Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Look at Inter whilst Conte ‘getting his targets’. Stop gap signings that will expire in a years time. Barella, Sensi, Eriksen and Lukaku are tremendous signings! And none is 'stop gap'. Vybz Kartel, bigbluewillie and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, ZaynChelsea said: LOL @people defending Conte. Conte has been an arrogant prick shitting on everything our club stands for. He had his agenda and did fuck all for us but promote his ego. Good riddance. Don‘t even compare him with a legend like Lampard. Lampard can only dream of ever sniffing a trophy next to him let alone take a club from 10th place to Champions the following. Vybz Kartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 55 minutes ago, milka said: LOL, as Vesper said that shit will barely cover Sancho, if that is to be the truth then we are fucked. 28 minutes ago, ZaynChelsea said: LOL @people defending Conte. Conte has been an arrogant prick shitting on everything our club stands for. He had his agenda and did fuck all for us but promote his ego. Good riddance. Don‘t even compare him with a legend like Lampard. If Conte has shat all over Chels then what do you call Sarii and his comments about us after he got the Juve gig? Now thats shitting asll over Chels, At least Conte thanked us all and was passionate about it. Conte’s statement in full: “I would like to thank all of my friends at Chelsea Football Club for their hard work and support over the past two seasons which enabled us to win the Premier League and FA Cup together. “To the players, whose talent and commitment was so important to our successes, I thank them for everything. It has been a pleasure working with them every day. “To my staff, who always worked so hard, I must say thank you and well done for their professionalism and dedication throughout. “I have enjoyed my time in England and London so much and I want to thank the Chelsea fans who have been amazing to me and my family. “It was fantastic for me to be able to share my emotions, passion and enthusiasm throughout two unforgettable seasons with these amazing Chelsea supporters, who will always stay in my heart. “I hope Chelsea will continue to be successful and I wish everyone well for next season. “I have made many memories during my time with Chelsea, which I will take with me into my next challenge.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Atomiswave said: He did fuck up, but the board fucked up first and fucked up badly. He near revolutionized epl, everyone was copying us, played lovely footy. He deserved much more and got shit in exchange. Average and last sec panic buys. There is no doubt in my mind we would be much stronger had we actually backed him. Even if they took Hazard away for him and replaced him with Townsend it was no excuse to effectively end our season by hitting the ultimate sulk, even Jose who's plight was 10x worse at the end stayed commited to the job until the moment he was fired. Regardless of the tools a manager has they are paid kings ransoms per week to get the absolute best out of what they've got. And regarding the panic buys, if he was so outraged by them he could have told the board to keep the money until better was available given he had the best academy side for decades available to him. If he didn't want Morata he could have given Tammy a shot or even asked for Auba, if he was so outraged by Zappacosta he had James in the academy, even Mount could have been a decent squad player if he was that desperate not to sign Drinkwater. The suits didn't cover themselves in glory that summer but that is not in anyway an excuse for Conte, he was an absolute wanker in those last month's and I love I had for him is well and truly gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: LOL, as Vesper said that shit will barely cover Sancho, if that is to be the truth then we are fucked. If Conte has shat all over Chels then what do you call Sarii and his comments about us after he got the Juve gig? Now thats shitting asll over Chels, At least Conte thanked us all and was passionate about it. Conte’s statement in full: “I would like to thank all of my friends at Chelsea Football Club for their hard work and support over the past two seasons which enabled us to win the Premier League and FA Cup together. “To the players, whose talent and commitment was so important to our successes, I thank them for everything. It has been a pleasure working with them every day. “To my staff, who always worked so hard, I must say thank you and well done for their professionalism and dedication throughout. “I have enjoyed my time in England and London so much and I want to thank the Chelsea fans who have been amazing to me and my family. “It was fantastic for me to be able to share my emotions, passion and enthusiasm throughout two unforgettable seasons with these amazing Chelsea supporters, who will always stay in my heart. “I hope Chelsea will continue to be successful and I wish everyone well for next season. “I have made many memories during my time with Chelsea, which I will take with me into my next challenge.” Actions speak louder than words, if he really loved us he would have got his head down done what he was paid for and got us CL football. In January we were second, we only had to have average results from then on to make CL, but he hit self destruct and we miss out (which also indirectly started Liverpool's current dominance). Sarri won't ever be my idol but the season he had with this squad while trying to change our football was as good as anything that could have been realistically expected, he didn't do any better because he couldn't do much if any better under the circumstances, I can accept that, but I will never accept what Conte did in those last six months, especially at City, because it was so preventable. Milan and ZaynChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Our next 5 games: Man United (h) Spurs (h) Bayern (h) Bournemouth (a) Liverpool (h) That's our season right there... Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Barella, Sensi, Eriksen and Lukaku are tremendous signings! And none is 'stop gap'. And I’ll raise you Godin, Sanchez, Young, and Moses. Even worse when you look at the average age of Inter and the players Inter are rumored with under Conte. He’s looking for immediate success and doesn’t care of the precautions for the future. ZaynChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: And I’ll raise you Godin, Sanchez, Young, and Moses. Even worse when you look at the average age of Inter and the players Inter are rumored with under Conte. He’s looking for immediate success and doesn’t care of the precautions for the future. TBF, this Inter side lack winners and it's hardly a surprise Conte decided to add a few players who have had success in their career or experienced players like those you mentioned. It's not like he went full out on getting old, experienced players only. Plus, Sanchez, Moses are only there on loan while Young is on an 18-month contract. And Godin, ironically, isn't exactly first choice in the XI. Has played like only half of the games and has been supplanted by Alessandro Bastoni, who is only 20 years old. I think the current Inter side have a good mixture of young players/players in their mid 20s and some more experienced players. Atomiswave and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Alabama said: Your evaluation of Willian is absolutely contradictory....willian and consistency should not appear in the same line... In the final 3rd Willian is horrid, extremely inconsistent. However outside out it, he is quite consistent. His ball retention, ball progression, pressing and track back are really consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Jason said: Our next 5 games: Man United (h) Spurs (h) Bayern (h) Bournemouth (a) Liverpool (h) That's our season right there... 😑🔫 Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, communicate said: In the final 3rd Willian is horrid, extremely inconsistent. However outside out it, he is quite consistent. His ball retention, ball progression, pressing and track back are really consistent. If last weekend's starting XI at Leicester is any indication, Lampard's patience with Willian's lack of offensive output might soon run out. Alabama and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 15 hours ago, Tomo said: Even if they took Hazard away for him and replaced him with Townsend it was no excuse to effectively end our season by hitting the ultimate sulk, even Jose who's plight was 10x worse at the end stayed commited to the job until the moment he was fired. Regardless of the tools a manager has they are paid kings ransoms per week to get the absolute best out of what they've got. And regarding the panic buys, if he was so outraged by them he could have told the board to keep the money until better was available given he had the best academy side for decades available to him. If he didn't want Morata he could have given Tammy a shot or even asked for Auba, if he was so outraged by Zappacosta he had James in the academy, even Mount could have been a decent squad player if he was that desperate not to sign Drinkwater. The suits didn't cover themselves in glory that summer but that is not in anyway an excuse for Conte, he was an absolute wanker in those last month's and I love I had for him is well and truly gone. I agree he did sulk too much but thats beacuse he felt way let down, he is a passionate man, emotional, he gives his all and expects the board to support him, I think he would have been content if we just had given him 2 of HIS players. And you want him to use a kid Tammy and James in 17-18 season? Nahh would never have worked, cant see it mate, we were freaking title winners by rocking the League. And somehow I doubt we would have given him Auba, I doubt it. Yup didnt cover himself in glory, he sure didnt, but will go down as one of the best we will ever have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, Jason said: If last weekend's starting XI at Leicester is any indication, Lampard's patience with Willian's lack of offensive output might soon run out. I don't think it is about his output but it made more sense to play pedro over willian across from Reece. Willian just doesn't make enough quality run to the box. However, Pedro imo is pretty much done here. I don't understand why Alonso is not starting on the left with Willian in front of him. This combination made sense . Let Willian sit and Alonso attack the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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