Chelsea 4-0 Portsmouth

[Tomo 21,733]

1 bad example. But look at what he did with Wilshere & Sturridge.

We've never even given the youth players we have a chance. Fair enough if they were given a chance, didn't impress and were dropped. Then we'd understand. But the fact that there's an element of arrogance as to use them is devestating.

With FFP coming up, it's the perfect opportunity to promote some reseve players. They demand less wages, we don't have to pay for transfers etc. Hell we could say 'we don't need a right back' if someone took a gamble on Billy Clifford. We could say we don't need Alvaro Perreira if André tries Van Aanholt in a game.

Don't get em wrong I still back André, but this is ridiculous.

Coyle fucked up with Wiess aswell so it 2-2 in that respect. AVB has done wonders with Danny but so far (can't stress that word enough) hasn't done as good as we hoped with Josh and Ryan so in that respect its 1-2.

Seaking of that surely AVB deserves credit for blooding Sturridge?

Ive heard a lot of people on here mention about how good Fergie is when he brought Cleverly into the team this season but that was on the back off a loan just like Danny's was, yet AVB gets slated for his youth and use Fergie's promotion of Cleverly as an example of what he should be doing even tho AVB did the same with Sturridge.

Yes it would be nice to see Josh, Ryan and co more but Sturridge was the youth, borderline first team player that needed to be uterlised in the team first and AVB has found a place for him and i fully trust that in time he will do the same for those 2.

[Steve 10,227]

Chelsea v Portsmouth

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[termninja 5,290]

Just watched it. Good game, but it could've been much tougher if Pompey scored at the beginning or JT didn't save the goal...

Our overall play has been good, but our attacking movement hasn't. We are still having problems breaking teams when they close up and sometimes we look completely idealess. Rarely someone has the bravery to beat a man and do something and when the teams close down it is difficult to find the final pass and our crossing is weak as usuall.

I'm really happy to see that Ramires has improved his finishing though, his 2nd goal was really good.

Victory, a clean sheet, no injuries and 4 goals. Well done.

[Tomo 21,733]

Its silly how Luiz gets blasted even by his own fans when he makes some mistakes yet Alex's msitake against WBA, FUlham and even the one against Blackburn that yet Yakubu in is worse than any bad thing Luiz has done yet we hardly batted a eyelid in comparision

[termninja 5,290]

Its silly how Luiz gets blasted even by his own fans when he makes some mistakes yet Alex's msitake against WBA, FUlham and even the one against Blackburn that yet Yakubu in is worse than bad thing Luiz has done yet we hardly batted a eyelid in comparision

I usually agree with you on this, but his mistake yesterday at this level of football is just unaccaptable. Instead of a easy game it could've turned into a crazy one had they scored after his mistake. He did well for the most of the match, but that mistake mustn't have happened. He needs to realize sometimes that he is a defender who has the job of keeping the goal secure and not beating players around him. Just blast the bloody thing away is a couple of players are running towards you!

[Tomo 21,733]

I usually agree with you on this, but his mistake yesterday at this level of football is just unaccaptable. Instead of a easy game it could've turned into a crazy one had they scored after his mistake. He did well for the most of the match, but that mistake mustn't have happened. He needs to realize sometimes that he is a defender who has the job of keeping the goal secure and not beating players around him. Just blast the bloody thing away is a couple of players are running towards you!

Im not defending the mistake but if Alex, Ivan or Terry did it it would have just been brushed under the carpet. Even Bosingwa doesnt get derided like that for error's although i guess that's because were use to them

[Sheva. 5,373]

The mistake he made in this game was just so stupid.

[termninja 5,290]

Im not defending the mistake but if Alex, Ivan or Terry did it it would have just been brushed under the carpet. Even Bosingwa doesnt get derided like that for error's although i guess that's because were use to them

Well yeah because they do it less often then our crazy brazilian and because they have a good reputation and big name on them Luiz is still building his own and yes sometimes he receives more criticistm then he should, but he is far from being a secure CB. If he played for 2-3 years consistently well the next time he made a mistake people wouldn't notice it as much as they do now.

Simple comparison today. LUIZ makes a terrible mistake and TERRY saves the goal. Of course people are going to slate Luiz more then JT.

Bosingwa doesn't get slated as much as Luiz? You are not being objective there, I doubt anyone on the forum is feeling calm when he sees him start and he gets slated even when he actually does well. To some people, he is the next person who should leave the club.

[Nic! 301]

@Sh0n3x - In the very little minutes Lukaku got, is there something worth sharing about his game? Positive, negative. On Chelsea TV radio, the commentators said his movement was good but then the action after his good running line when he got the ball was mediocre.

[termninja 5,290]

@Sh0n3x - In the very little minutes Lukaku got, is there something worth sharing about his game? Positive, negative. On Chelsea TV radio, the commentators said his movement was good but then the action after his good running line when he got the ball was mediocre.

Well he barely had the time to do something, but he made a few runs and he looked good. Reminded me of Sturridge last season when he tried really hard to impress. He did fine, but there's not much to say really.

He had one great run on the left wing after which he sent a good cross to Frank if I remember right, but Pompey defense cleared it. Besides that, a foul when trying to win a header and a few good runs. Nothing spectacular and nothing bad.

Shame we couldn't score the 2nd goal eariler, he would've had more time to contribute

[The Rising Sun 709]

I Think we should let RDM go at the end of this season and replace him some well established assistant coach....ray wilkins types...

I think RDM adds fuck all to our team and a more authoritative respected and experienced assistant coach will do us a world of good....

That will also allow AVB to flourish and will give him a good balance of both sides.... never thought much of RDM as a coach earlier, still dont .

Our team NEEDS a top quality assistant coach. With all the changes going on, it is the most important, as the manager is making alot of big decisions and changes.... If someone like Ray Wilkins is there to communicate and put those changes into action, the transition will be easier and more successful.

In other news, Just watched the match on CHELSEA Tv..... We are the most boring team in possession to watch.... It is suffocating to watch us in possession.

This is more than just an assumption about RDM.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I Think we should let RDM go at the end of this season and replace him some well established assistant coach....ray wilkins types...

I think RDM adds fuck all to our team and a more authoritative respected and experienced assistant coach will do us a world of good....

That will also allow AVB to flourish and will give him a good balance of both sides.... never thought much of RDM as a coach earlier, still dont .

Our team NEEDS a top quality assistant coach. With all the changes going on, it is the most important, as the manager is making alot of big decisions and changes.... If someone like Ray Wilkins is there to communicate and put those changes into action, the transition will be easier and more successful.

In other news, Just watched the match on CHELSEA Tv..... We are the most boring team in possession to watch.... It is suffocating to watch us in possession.

This is more than just an assumption about RDM.

This is silly as Carlo was rubbish because Ray Wilkins left. Di Matteo was in charge of WBA and did a very good job with them, he was very unlucky to be fired when he was. He started the season really well & was undone by a patch of tricky fixtures. So if anyone's a great coach, I'm sure it's him. And I've seen André & Roberto discuss a lot in games where as Carlo & Clement (for example) did not.

Di Matteo was André's choice. Why would we want to fire his back staff, that he handpicked?

[The Rising Sun 709]

This is silly as Carlo was rubbish because Ray Wilkins left. Di Matteo was in charge of WBA and did a very good job with them, he was very unlucky to be fired when he was. He started the season really well & was undone by a patch of tricky fixtures. So if anyone's a great coach, I'm sure it's him. And I've seen André & Roberto discuss a lot in games where as Carlo & Clement (for example) did not.

Di Matteo was André's choice. Why would we want to fire his back staff, that he handpicked?

Well we differ on that .... i never thought he was good for west brom....

Dont know on what basis AVB chose RDM tho,,, hopefully they knew eachother before,,,, unlikely though...

[eldo 868]

Wow. This guy knows nothing about RDM's job at Chelsea and he says Roberto doesn't bring anything to Chelsea.

Amazing.

Coyle fucked up with Wiess aswell so it 2-2 in that respect. AVB has done wonders with Danny but so far (can't stress that word enough) hasn't done as good as we hoped with Josh and Ryan so in that respect its 1-2.

Seaking of that surely AVB deserves credit for blooding Sturridge?

Ive heard a lot of people on here mention about how good Fergie is when he brought Cleverly into the team this season but that was on the back off a loan just like Danny's was, yet AVB gets slated for his youth and use Fergie's promotion of Cleverly as an example of what he should be doing even tho AVB did the same with Sturridge.

Yes it would be nice to see Josh, Ryan and co more but Sturridge was the youth, borderline first team player that needed to be uterlised in the team first and AVB has found a place for him and i fully trust that in time he will do the same for those 2.

And Romeu too. But he is "going" to Barca anyway so it doesn't matter.

[The Rising Sun 709]

Wow. This guy knows nothing about RDM's job at Chelsea and he says Roberto doesn't bring anything to Chelsea.

Amazing.

Are you talking about me>?

[eldo 868]

Are you talking about me>?

Who else suggested that we need to sack RDM?

you should apply for the job, looks like you know more about it than AVB and RDM together.

[The Rising Sun 709]

Who else suggested that we need to sack RDM?

you should apply for the job, looks like you know more about it than AVB and RDM together.

I used the words LET GO,,,, more like parting ways than sacking,,, but fine ...you can say that,,,,

I dont have the experience of AVB or the tactical brilliance of RDM to qualify for one of the biggest club jobs in the world.

You should become their PR agent.

You surely know alot about what hes doing at Chelsea, better than i do. I must be watching some other team because i cant see much change in the way we play halfway into the season, not even a hint of a change in style,.... the only thing that changed, failed and reverted back to the old way, i,e. high line.

RDM was the manager, whose better abilities were making decisions, while his assistant coach got the team into RDM;s groove. His experience as an assistant before chelsea was zilich. There are people who specialise in Assistant manager positions, and there is a reason for that.

That said, i am not against him. It is upto Everyone at the club to turn it around.

[HRiver 1,512]

Nice victory, but I'm a bit disappointed with Avb in this one for not giving Lukaku a few minutes more.