Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Joker10 946]

Oscar technically limited?

So i would say he is not up there with the most technical no.10s in the world, but he is far from being labeled as technically limited. His technique from a shooting and set pieces is wonderful and among the best at his position. In his Chelsea career he has provided some great magic with his first touch(ex:his Juve goal his first touch was amazing setting up the goal). Some of his passes this season have been really wonderful can't count how many times this i have rewatched what may look like a simple pass but see it again you really appreciate it and difficulty of it. I remember posting Pat Nevin video reviewing Oscar passes against Bolton he does a great job of analyzing his amazing passes. Oscar can make some really difficult passes look simple.

Oscar is good technically, he is not a technical extraordinaire by any means though.

There's nothing laughable about it because it's the truth. Technique reflects all aspects of football : passing, touch/close control dribbling, shooting and oscar is painfully limited in all of these aspects bar shooting which isn't great but better than average.

It's no coincidence that the non technical aspect (workrate) is what people use to rate him as a good player and justify his inclusion in the first team/starting 11. You hear words like, He gives us balance, he helps us keep the shape etc. reminds you of anyone? Ramires.

Mats Hummels is a superb illustration that if you are technically good, people will highlight that aspect of your game more often regardless of the position and role you play in the team.

I have been watching football for a long long time (since the 80's to be precise) and have seen enough of Oscar to know he's technically limited player.

I think you are not seeing it if that all you see from Oscar is his workrate. Oscar imo is the most complete no.10 in the world at the moment. He can have a average game offensively and can change a game defensively with his performance(ex:Arsenal), can score a beautiful and timely goal and provide killer passes. He is vital in our retention of the ball; does very well in pressure and maintain possession. He can drop back and control the midfield with his ability to distribute.

At his form he is undropable, if all he provides is work rate then surely Willian and Ramires can do his job right?

Mourinho would disagree, when asked if he is going to rest Oscar against Maribor,"Maybe yes, but maybe not. You can imagine it's not easy to make a decision to rest a player who in this moment is my best player."

I don't disagree with Mou at the moment he is our best player.

[Eggman 118]

Reus in and we win the PL for sure.

Hell, we even win the CL.

Not going to happen though. If he goes to Bayern in the summer, that would just be so incredibly lame. Although City would be even worse.

[stroey 2,525]

Reus in and we win the PL for sure.

Hell, we even win the CL.

Not going to happen though. If he goes to Bayern in the summer, that would just be so incredibly lame. Although City would be even worse.

Would be a dream signing but not realistic in January since Dortmund are already in the last 16 of CL. Rather see him at Bayern than in the EPL for another club. He is cuptied so won't be able to help us in the CL.

[stroey 2,525]

Reus in and we win the PL for sure.

Hell, we even win the CL.

Not going to happen though. If he goes to Bayern in the summer, that would just be so incredibly lame. Although City would be even worse.

Would be a dream signing but not realistic in January since Dortmund are already in the last 16 of CL. Rather see him at Bayern than in the EPL for another club. He is cuptied so won't be able to help us in the CL.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

IMO there is only one player we should be looking to sign right now and that is a centre-back. We're incredibly weak there. Varane would be an ideal signing.

[Beepu 1,714]

IMO there is only one player we should be looking to sign right now and that is a centre-back. We're incredibly weak there. Varane would be an ideal signing.

Varane would be first choice for me as well, but should've tried to sign him last summer. Not sure how possible it is now after he's signed a new contract. Never say never though! Maybe Mourinho can whisper sweet nothings in his ears.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Varane would be first choice for me as well, but should've tried to sign him last summer. Not sure how possible it is now after he's signed a new contract. Never say never though! Maybe Mourinho can whisper sweet nothings in his ears.

New contracts are usually only offered when other clubs make an offer. He probably signed that because he was approached by another club in the summer. Ultimately money talks and if we offer the right amount then Real will sell.

[the wes 7,212]

i can see chelsea sign Zakaria Bakkali on per agreement in January transfer window and sign him on a free in the summer

[iseah100 5,612]

New contracts are usually only offered when other clubs make an offer. He probably signed that because he was approached by another club in the summer. Ultimately money talks and if we offer the right amount then Real will sell.

Surely we'd have to fork up the largest fee ever for a defender?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Surely we'd have to fork up the largest fee ever for a defender?

Maybe. £40m, I'd guestimate.

[lucio 5,418]

Arsenal and Chelsea target Mateo Kovacic has revealed he is no closer to signing a new contract with Inter Milan.

http://talksport.com/football/arsenal-and-chelsea-target-no-closer-new-inter-milan-contract-141106123093

i would pay BIG money for him...

[illmatic 901]

We need a Central Defense but which that can play Champions League?.

IMO there is only one player we should be looking to sign right now and that is a centre-back. We're incredibly weak there. Varane would be an ideal signing.

Buff, Varane is a dream, the best defense for the next 10 years, but i dont think that Madrid sell him. The only way is that he continue and the bench and Mou can convince him.

if there is any chance, we can not miss.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Liverpool to buy Charlie Austin next summer, you hear it first.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Liverpool to buy Charlie Austin next summer, you hear it first.

Lmao I was just thinking this! He's a big fish in a small pond right now, definitely a Liverpool sort of signing. Either them or Tottenham.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Rumour said Monaco urge MU to pay 46m to make Falcao move permanent, and MU not sure they willing to at the moment. Falcao linked to move to Real Madrid.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Nothing with rumours realy, but I just wanted to point out that Bernat is certainly one of most underrated signings of summer. He was brilliant for Bayern, improving every game and very tacticaly sound.

To say, he is just 20 and already broke into bayern lineup after few months...

We are stacked with full backs, but he realy impressed me at bayern, shame we didnt try to get him for 10mio only.

[didierforever 7,349]

Nothing with rumours realy, but I just wanted to point out that Bernat is certainly one of most underrated signings of summer. He was brilliant for Bayern, improving every game and very tacticaly sound.

To say, he is just 20 and already broke into bayern lineup after few months...

We are stacked with full backs, but he realy impressed me at bayern, shame we didnt try to get him for 10mio only.

does he play as a LB or a LW. i have seen bayern just a couple times or maybe thrice. everytime i saw them, alaba and bernat played together on the left with bernat play higher up.

[Joker10 946]

Nothing with rumours realy, but I just wanted to point out that Bernat is certainly one of most underrated signings of summer. He was brilliant for Bayern, improving every game and very tacticaly sound.

To say, he is just 20 and already broke into bayern lineup after few months...

We are stacked with full backs, but he realy impressed me at bayern, shame we didnt try to get him for 10mio only.

Bernat is pretty good and a good singing for Pep. But his successor at Valencia is truely the special LB and the future of Spain. Jose Gaya is amazing, only 19 already better then Bernat. Valencia knew that, and which is why it was easy to swallow the loss of Bernat. They also have Salva Ruiz, same age as Gaya not as good but definitely has the potential to play for numerous sides in La Liga in the near future.

minor mistake but Bernat is 21.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Arsenal and Chelsea target Mateo Kovacic has revealed he is no closer to signing a new contract with Inter Milan.

http://talksport.com/football/arsenal-and-chelsea-target-no-closer-new-inter-milan-contract-141106123093

i would pay BIG money for him...

Truly love Mateo but we don't need him here. Would block the path for some of our promising CMs.

[didierforever 7,349]

I don't want any additions in the winter window unless we are getting one of messi, CR, vidal, bastian. This will be specially tru if we are 10+ points ahead of the chasing pack ans the way things have gone, I think we ll be 10+ points ahead easily.

Buying a cup tied player like reus would compromise our CL ambitions (considering its a swap).

So hopefully we do that transfer in the summer.

Summer outs - cech, mark, mikel, salah, Dd, schurrle, bertrand, kakuta.

Summer ins - good 2nd GK (guzan), reus, bamford(loan return), moses (loan return).

Squad

Courtois, 2nd GK, beeney/blackman (Hg)

JT (HG), GC (HG), zouma (u21), azpi, iva, luis, ake (HG), ?

Matic, cesc(Hg), rambo, romeu/mvg, ?

Oscar, hazard, willian, reus, moses(Hg), ?

Costa, remy, banford (Hg)