Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[yuvala 2,167]

Agree on all but getting another AM, we may also need a new CB if Luiz is sold (assuming Zouma is out on loan next season).

I wouldn't mind seeing Courtois back next season but would understand if he spent another season @ Atletico (provided he signs a new contract).

A LB, CM and ST will be good. If we got another AM: who would/could we get and whose place will he take? Won't it will inevitably be the no 10 role, meaning oscar is either pushed out wide or (as some on here would like) sold? Just interested on your thoughts on that.

I think he'll just replace the less-good AM I guess? we'll have to see who performs better next season.

IMO we need a player like Reus to work with Hazard, because Schurrle, Willian or Oscar are not yet on his level. They are unable to create too many chances ATM. If Hazard isn't active, we're useless. We also lack quality on the bench after selling Mata and KDB. If we play Hazard-Oscar-Willian then we only have Schurrle on the bench, and I guess Salah too but he's still young and probably needs to improve.

If one of them gets injured? If Hazard gets injured.. we're doomed.

[Mr_President 404]

I think he'll just replace the less-good AM I guess? we'll have to see who performs better next season.

IMO we need a player like Reus to work with Hazard, because Schurrle, Willian or Oscar are not yet on his level. They are unable to create too many chances ATM. If Hazard isn't active, we're useless. We also lack quality on the bench after selling Mata and KDB. If we play Hazard-Oscar-Willian then we only have Schurrle on the bench, and I guess Salah too but he's still young and probably needs to improve.

If one of them gets injured? If Hazard gets injured.. we're doomed.

Oh right, thought you meant we needed to buy a first choice no. 10 rather than a player that can play in the 3.

Reus would be a dream but cannot see it happening, the money can be better utilised elsewhere.

[quickpassnmove 924]

strange that anyone here is discussing centre backs and attacking midfielders.

anyway, Lukaku rumour.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/03/football-transfer-rumour-mill-romelu-lukaku-tottenham

[yuvala 2,167]

Oh right, thought you meant we needed to buy a first choice no. 10 rather than a player that can play in the 3.

Reus would be a dream but cannot see it happening, the money can be better utilised elsewhere.

Well is it that absurd that we'll get him ?

I mean Dortmund are pretty much falling apart. Real Madrid wont buy him, he doesn't suit Barca's style + they cant buy players anyway now. I guess City can bid for him but not sure they will.

How much will Dortmund ask for him?

strange that anyone here is discussing centre backs and attacking midfielders.

anyway, Lukaku rumour.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/03/football-transfer-rumour-mill-romelu-lukaku-tottenham

Why is it strange? We need another quality AM.

[Y123CFC 69]

http://www.givemesport.com/447481-chelsea-and-manchester-city-in-contact-with-benzema-camp

Benzema anyone? Would take him over Costa, personally

[Mr_President 404]

Well is it that absurd that we'll get him ?

I mean Dortmund are pretty much falling apart. Real Madrid wont buy him, he doesn't suit Barca's style + they cant buy players anyway now. I guess City can bid for him but not sure they will.

How much will Dortmund ask for him?

I don't know how much they'll ask for him but I doubt they'll let him go at all. Their team is being dismantled by Bayern and Reus leaving this summer would be awful for the club (not just in terms of losing a great player but also a German, reportedly a Dortmund fan etc.) and it would just serve to highlight the previous departures of their star players, Sahin, Kagawa and recently Gotze and Lewandowski. I also read somewhere that his release clause kicks in from the summer of 2015, so he won't be leaving this summer at least - not sure about the veracity of that but have see it suggested a fair bit online. On top of that, have we ever really been linked with him (not that I'd give Daily Mail links any credence).

What I'm hoping is that if we get a dangerous striker infront of the attacking midfielders that he creates more space/takes pressure off Hazard and the other 2 attacking players.

[yuvala 2,167]

http://www.givemesport.com/447481-chelsea-and-manchester-city-in-contact-with-benzema-camp

Benzema anyone? Would take him over Costa, personally

We wish.

[mediator 2,026]

Chelsea meets with Lavezzi’s agents

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/chelsea-meets-with-lavezzis-agents/

[Y123CFC 69]

We wish.

Why just wish? His agent is saying he has been in talks with us, I do hope so

[FabHazard 655]

Chelsea have met with the agents of PSG forward Ezequiel Lavezzi over a possible summer transfer (via @DiMarzio) #CFC #PSG

Lavezzi’s agents have been in London recently to meet with Abramovich’s representatives.There will soon be a 2nd meeting. #CFC (Sky Italia)

[yuvala 2,167]

Why just wish? His agent is saying he has been in talks with us, I do hope so

Dont really see Real letting him go.

Chelsea have met with the agents of PSG forward Ezequiel Lavezzi over a possible summer transfer (via @DiMarzio) #CFC #PSG

Lavezzi’s agents have been in London recently to meet with Abramovich’s representatives.There will soon be a 2nd meeting. #CFC (Sky Italia)

Dont need him, hope its false.

[Special Juan 28,188]

Cole, Luiz, Marin, Ba, Torres, Mikel, Bertrand, Moses and Romeu.

For me all of them will go, possibly Josh too.

[didierforever 7,349]

Despite the set of poor result recently, still think we will only buy a ST, LB and maybe a CM.

When your team starts a qf in CL without a recongized striker not as a tactical ploy but cos your strikers suck to that degree, you know what the main problem is.

Getting lavezzi won't solve anything if we don't get a good striker. It will be different players, same stories. Neither will he improve us drastically over willian. If we had simply swapped cavani with schurrle/torres yesterdat, I am sure we would have won the match. That's the effect a striker makes.

For me this should be our squad next season

Gk- courtois (first choice), cech (second choice)

Fullbacks- azpi, shaw, iva

Cbs- JT, GC, zouma

Plus 2 defenders from yiuth. Ake for both CB, LB and DM cover.

Cm- matic, rambo, mvg, luiz/new cm.

Ams- hazard, oscar, willian, salah, schurrle

Strikers- costa/mandzukic, lukaku, etoo.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Bony ?

Adebayor ?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

In case Zouma impress Mou during preseason, Luiz can leave for 30mio.

We should keep Lukaku and Etoo as 2nd and 3rd striker. While we must buy Costa/Cavani/xxx as first choice. If Lukaku leaves, use money on Bony.

Midfield needs new CM. Cant say who will that be, but someone in mould of Gundogan.

LB is required, however as much Shaw is talented, 25mio+ is alot of money and he is quite inexperienced (considering Mou likes older players and wants to win PL/CL next year). But if we get Shaw or Rodriguez/Sandro, I will be more than happy.

Last signing should be made in AM area. Yes we have plenty of players and several on loan (Hazard, Piazon, Atsu, Bertrand,...) but Im sure we need a very good AM to strenghten squad. Someone who can add change to the game when brough on. Reus is quite unrealistic, Griezmann too, but Lallana/Lavezzi/Lucas/Quadrado/...could be quite usefull to have in squad to add some competition next to Oscar, Hazard and Willian.

Honestly, all top teams have at least 4 top class players for three positions in attack + striker. Rm has Di Maria, Ronaldo, Bale, Isco. Bayern has Robben, Ribery, Gotze, Muller. Barca has Neymar, Pedro, Sanchez, Iniesta(when needed). Psg has Lavezzi, Cavani, Lucas, Pastore, soon to have Griezmann.

We dont cut it with only Hazard, Oscar and Willian. Schurrle or Salah ain on that level. Plus we need a player who can add width to the game. Maybe sell Schurrle +15mio to Bvb for Reus...

We will have plenty of money from the sales of deadwood. Keep only Lukaku, Etoo and potentialy Luiz, but sell other unnecessary players. Maybe even bring someone like Piazon back.

Courtois needs to stay, he gets better and better, while Cech slowly loses it. If possible keep them both, if not sell Cech (sad, but best for the team).

Cech, Courtois

Azpi, Iva, Terry, Cahill, Zouma/Luiz, new LB

Matic, Ramires, Ginkel, Lamps?, new CM

Hazard, Oscar, Willian, Salah, Schurrle, new AM

New ST, Lukaku, Etoo

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Our priority is to tie down costa/cavani, but imo we have other important issues.

We have bigger problems than just a striker. Our players are too unintelligent, the worst decision making of any top team. I've lost count on how many times we get into the 18box and then don't make the right pass or shot because of outright stupidity. (Ramires and ivanovic are huge culprits in this)

We need people who attack for us to come up with intelligent passing and still have strength and speed in their play, we need to get another box to box that is more intelligent than ramires peanut brain. Surely if matuidi, fernadinho, or even khedira was in ramires place as our box to box, some stupid decisions in the final third would have been avoided.

We also need technically gifted players all over from CM to striker. Why?? Because they can bail the team out with moments of genius. (Look at yayatoure in the league cup final, look at lavezi's goal against us, look at hazard's volley against the bar in PSG) Pure technique bailed these teams, not coaches instructions, just pure technique which only hazard and eto in our team have.

Our team are too average in passing all over only hazard and eto feel comfortable on the ball in attack. The rest prefer running but are shit with the ball. There is nothing wrong with having fast players, but players can be fast and still throw good passes, its not a crime.

When I compared our players technically player for player against PSG, I discovered there is still a long way to go for our team to become top 5 in europe than just strikers.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Besides CM and LB, we need either world class striker ala Cavani/Suarez (unrealistic though) OR good striker ala Costa and world class AM ala Reus.

Willian-Oscar-Hazard

------Cavani--------

or

Reus-Oscar-Hazard

------Costa------

Money in both cases spend would be around 70mio. With sales of deadwood, potentialy Luiz and Lukaku and money from Mata sale, we have more than enough finances to pull this through.

I have feeling Willian, Hazard and Oscar are too reliant on Hazard, while other two just run run and do nothing else. Costa would be alone in such attack if only Hazard was good enough to give him usefull balls.

[DDA 9,985]

I'm all for supporting our own players through their bad spells but I really couldn't give a fuck if Ramires was sold in the Summer. He was a beast for us in a chaotic time at Chelsea when there was no real structure to the team. Now Jose is implementing his frameworks, I'm not sure Ramires is good enough to play in a midifled role where transition is key. For me I would keep Luiz at the club for both the Center back position and that defensive midfield role and bring in an intelligent mid who can pass in tight areas effectively. You would have Matic, Lamps, Luiz and player X for the central midfield areas. That would be enough aslong as the player we brought in was special and of real World Class pedigree.

[Eligius 121]

Better than Ronaldo? Haha

Ronaldo and Messi are the elite

Suarez and Bale are around the same level

Let's see how Suarez does in the CL next season. He has to do it on the big stage to be mentioned in the same sentence as Ronaldo and Messi

What is Cristiano better than Suarez at?

I give him free kicks.

Cristiano was a JT pk slip from never winning a CL, so what exactly makes Cristiano on a different level?

Does he play out of position so his teammates can shine?

Does he work hard to get the ball back for his team?

Does he run all day long to press the back4?

Is he a team player or an individual?

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Tinkering with Hazard-Oscar-Willian is unnecessary. The team does a disservice to the trio is so many ways. Because we play Azpi on the left and Ivanovic, the trio is so spread out and pushed very far. You see Hazard and Willian wating on the side in places I expect my LB and RB to. The pitch becomes too big when in certain games Ivanovic is told pretty much not to cross the center line. There's is just too much pitch for the three to manage especially when Torres or Ba is out there, it's a lot to ask of the three. We need an all around left-back to get Azpi back on the right. They also have Ramires playing behind him who has been embarrassing lately. We can bring in Atsu because he has quality but to either shuffle around the part of our team or spend more money on the attacking mid is a waste of time.

We could use 2 CM's especially when Mikel, Lamps, Ramires and Luiz either aren't cutting it anymore or look like they will sacrificed for funds. The market for CM's isn't that bad either with guys like Pjanic, Khedira, Marchisio, Kovacic, Gundogan (risky), Bender, Rakitic and obviously more that I didn't mention possibly available (though we've been linked to a kid named Imbula). Ramires isn't enough of a footballer to link up with the likes Oscar-Hazard-Willian and Lamps doesn't have the legs to keep up with them.

I think we need to buy two big strikers for less than 60m, I am expecting to see all of our strikers leaving at the end of the season. I think Lukaku and Bamfordinho should come with us as well. Insurance never hurts and we need those English players to be legit for rules sake so Bamford as a fourth makes sense.