Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Why sign Gustavo when we have Ramires...

They are very different players.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Should we sell Luiz, while Terry is getting old and Cahill doesnt look like being our starter, we will have huge problem considering our defence. Cole is not young anymore and even Iva is in close 30s. That means we would potentialy need three new defenders, two CBs and a LB. Even if we get them all, we will have huge issue in their communication, adopting to league etc. I hope we fix Luiz and get Shaw as our future LB (he knows PL). As for other CB, I would take close look on Caulker among other targets.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Yohan Cabaye is such a brilliant passer from deep.. would love him to partner Ramires for the next 4 years while other talents in youth team develop more..

Sounds good, but neither of the two is good in air and it would be lightweight pivot. While we would fix our midfield creativity, strenght of midfield would still be weak.

[bluesman2610 1,423]

Sounds good, but neither of the two is good in air and it would be lightweight pivot. While we would fix our midfield creativity, strenght of midfield would still be weak.

I disagree both are combative and tackle quiet often .. Cabaye has 2.4 tackles per game and 2.8 interceptions and only gets dribbled past 1.5 times so if he doesn't win the tackle he fouls.. and Ramires 3.0 tackles per game 1 interception but get dribbled about twice a game... I very much doubt that would be a lightweight pivot, there is a lo of work ethic and heart in that midfield and i think they would compliment each other brilliantly

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I disagree both are combative and tackle quiet often .. Cabaye has 2.4 tackles per game and 2.8 interceptions and only gets dribbled past 1.5 times so if he doesn't win the tackle he fouls.. and Ramires 3.0 tackles per game 1 interception but get dribbled about twice a game... I very much doubt that would be a lightweight pivot, there is a lo of work ethic and heart in that midfield and i think they would compliment each other brilliantly

I didnt say they dont defend well. They are weak in air, when facing City, Bayern or Real, this pivot wouldnt win the ball in air duels. And they are not strenght beasts like Yaya, Martinez etc.

I like idea of Cabaye in midfield, but not with Ramires.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I didnt say they dont defend well. They are weak in air, when facing City, Bayern or Real, this pivot wouldnt win the ball in air duels. And they are not strenght beasts like Yaya, Martinez etc.

I like idea of Cabaye in midfield, but not with Ramires.

But, still not a better option than Witsel.

[bluesman2610 1,423]

I didnt say they dont defend well. They are weak in air, when facing City, Bayern or Real, this pivot wouldnt win the ball in air duels. And they are not strenght beasts like Yaya, Martinez etc.

I like idea of Cabaye in midfield, but not with Ramires.

we are weak in the air right now when we play ramires and lampard.. our cbs win more than enough ariel duels that having two guys who can win the ball during the run breaking up play would be more beneficial.. as evidence look at yesterdays game for the defensive style we are looking to create high pressure up top and winning the the ball on the ground or on second ball which both these players are very good at doing

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

They are very different players.

they go about their business differently but fulfill the same role at their respective clubs.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

How do people feel about Rakitic?He has been killing it in La Liga this season,He can play in a deeper role as well as a CAM(not that we need any).His set-piece delivery is amazing and has brilliant passing range short and long.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

What do you guys think about thiago motta?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z4pxBSmgecs

I know he isnt the youngest but he has the vision for passes, height, strength and energy for our pivot. And he would be cheap, and worked with mourinho before.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

What do you guys think about thiago motta?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z4pxBSmgecs

I know he isnt the youngest but he has the vision for passes, height, strength and energy for our pivot. And he would be cheap, and worked with mourinho before.

Dont know,he is good but he is old and quite injury prone.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Dont know,he is good but he is old and quite injury prone.

Maybe the injuries but i dont think its that serious. But he definately has derossi vision. The problem with options available to fix our pivot is that we are buying who will play beside ramires. Because ramires is small, we cant afford to buy another small person beside him, it will be too weak a pivot.

Once we buy a small player, it means it wont be good for us to play ramires because teams will just hoof the ball in the air and our midfield will win zero aerial battles.

IMO, The only way to fix this pivot is to buy a deep player who is big and strong in tackles and can send very long passes.

There are only few available players like this off the top of my head (witsel, pogba, derossi, thiago motta, xabi alonso, javi martinez) Some are too expensive while some are not available

The rest (modric, cabaye, moutinho, gundogan) are too small to play beside ramires unless we play mikel beside them and leave ramires on the bench, then its possible.

Then there are some (schneiderlen, matuidi, koke, bender, gustavo) are very strong tacklers but are not known for long passes, we might as well play MVG since he is good at tackling and energy alone

As you can see, a genuine option to massively improve our pivot iand fit in our system is very rare. Thats the problem we face

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Dont know,he is good but he is old and quite injury prone.

Maybe the injuries but i dont think its that serious. But he definately has derossi vision. The problem with options available to fix our pivot is that we are buying who will play beside ramires. Because ramires is small, we cant afford to buy another small person beside him, it will be too weak a pivot.

Once we buy a small player, it means it wont be good for us to play ramires because teams will just hoof the ball in the air and our midfield will win zero aerial battles.

IMO, The only way to fix this pivot is to buy a deep player who is big and strong in tackles and can send very long passes.

There are only few available players like this off the top of my head (witsel, pogba, derossi, thiago motta, xabi alonso, javi martinez) Some are too expensive while some are not available

The rest (modric, cabaye, moutinho, gundogan) are too small to play beside ramires unless we play mikel beside them and leave ramires on the bench, then its possible.

Then there are some (schneiderlen, matuidi, koke, bender, gustavo) are very strong tacklers but are not known for long passes, we might as well play MVG since he is good at tackling and energy alone

As you can see, a genuine option to massively improve our pivot iand fit in our system is very rare. Thats the problem we face

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Maybe the injuries but i dont think its that serious. But he definately has derossi vision. The problem with options available to fix our pivot is that we are buying who will play beside ramires. Because ramires is small, we cant afford to buy another small person beside him, it will be too weak a pivot.

Once we buy a small player, it means it wont be good for us to play ramires because teams will just hoof the ball in the air and our midfield will win zero aerial battles.

IMO, The only way to fix this pivot is to buy a deep player who is big and strong in tackles and can send very long passes.

There are only few available players like this off the top of my head (witsel, pogba, derossi, thiago motta, xabi alonso, javi martinez) Some are too expensive while some are not available

The rest (modric, cabaye, moutinho, gundogan) are too small to play beside ramires unless we play mikel beside them and leave ramires on the bench, then its possible.

Then there are some (schneiderlen, matuidi, koke, bender, gustavo) are very strong tacklers but are not known for long passes, we might as well play MVG since he is good at tackling and energy alone

As you can see, a genuine option to massively improve our pivot iand fit in our system is very rare. Thats the problem we face

Rambo is small but he is very combative and will never shirk away from challenges and thats what is important for a midfielder and not his ariel ability imo.The CB's are their to win long balls.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Rambo is small but he is very combative and will never shirk away from challenges and thats what is important for a midfielder and not his ariel ability imo.The CB's are their to win long balls.

Trust me, mourinho is our manager. I know him well, he wont risk two small people in the pivot. The only reason he plays ivanovic is his height, mourinho will pick a big player beside a small one in the pivot.

We can buy the small guys, but it means they play beside mikel... thats the dilema of our pivot issues

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Trust me, mourinho is our manager. I know him well, he wont risk two small people in the pivot. The only reason he plays ivanovic is his height, mourinho will pick a big player beside a small one in the pivot.

We can buy the small guys, but it means they play beside mikel... thats the dilema of our pivot issues

In that case we should target Witsel.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Trust me, mourinho is our manager. I know him well, he wont risk two small people in the pivot. The only reason he plays ivanovic is his height, mourinho will pick a big player beside a small one in the pivot.

We can buy the small guys, but it means they play beside mikel... thats the dilema of our pivot issues

Maybe the injuries but i dont think its that serious. But he definately has derossi vision. The problem with options available to fix our pivot is that we are buying who will play beside ramires. Because ramires is small, we cant afford to buy another small person beside him, it will be too weak a pivot.

Once we buy a small player, it means it wont be good for us to play ramires because teams will just hoof the ball in the air and our midfield will win zero aerial battles.

IMO, The only way to fix this pivot is to buy a deep player who is big and strong in tackles and can send very long passes.

There are only few available players like this off the top of my head (witsel, pogba, derossi, thiago motta, xabi alonso, javi martinez) Some are too expensive while some are not available

The rest (modric, cabaye, moutinho, gundogan) are too small to play beside ramires unless we play mikel beside them and leave ramires on the bench, then its possible.

Then there are some (schneiderlen, matuidi, koke, bender, gustavo) are very strong tacklers but are not known for long passes, we might as well play MVG since he is good at tackling and energy alone

As you can see, a genuine option to massively improve our pivot iand fit in our system is very rare. Thats the problem we face

Probably the reason why De Bruye never gets a go in the pivot and Lamps plays almost every match.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Probably the reason why De Bruye never gets a go in the pivot and Lamps plays almost every match.

Yeah unfortunately.

In that case we should target Witsel.

True, him or pogba. One of the expensive options though

[bushman 2,043]

Never mind the pivot.

Jackson Martinez is the name & Chelsea is his game.

As reported by A Bola & Ben Jefferson of the express Chelsea are about to snatch the Colombian forward. His agent reportedly flown into London to secure the move in January.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Matic, Pogba, De Rossi, Witsel, Imbula, Paulinho, Schneiderlin, etc. etc.

It would be nice to get someone in January. It would have been nice last summer. It would have great two summers ago, three summers... and I've been repeating myself on various web forums for over 3 years now while Ramires runs his ass off for this club and people like Mikel still can't figure out how to play well enough, Lampard slows down and is asked to play where he should not, Oscar is played as an "attacking midfielder" (but was a flourishing center midfielder in Porto Alegre).

At this point, I would be very happy to see Loftus-Cheek or some reserve player in matches if Essien isn't about to start in the league. It's odd the Essien hasn't been given a start for Ivanovic. It's strange we've seen Lampard start so much.

Every year something is not right at Chelsea but things don't change. Is this the club with tonnes of money and no answers? Surely someone has a clue and will get it done before we're all dead.