CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 There is still striker issues. Please recall Lukaku back or sign one that can perform. Not really. We've only had striker issues in the last game where Torres was terrible. But before that, our strikers were doing exactly what Jose wants from them. Eto'o works the channels brilliantly to create space for diagonal runs, Ba is a great target man and offers us an option to play a more direct style, and even Torres before his injury was having his best time in a Chelsea shirt and provided us with physicality and speed up front and very good link-up play.The issue with our attacks this season cannot be blame on the one man up top, in fact, imo, the issue more down to the three behind the striker struggling to implement Jose's system, especially when it comes to movement. In fact, Jose said so himself (can't remember after which game). This is due to a lot of factors; mainly that this is still a new system and the players will need time to get used to it, and the constant changing of those three players from game to game didn't help much and some of it is not even the fault of those three but the fault of our pivot being too easily overrun in midfield at times especially when Lampard has played in the pivot against teams that press.Bottom line is, we've gotten used to just throwing money at our problems at Chelsea, but right now, what we need is not new expensive players, but time for the team to gel and the players to learn the new system and the manager to pick out and fix the little bugs in the team. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 People actually think we'll get Falcao or -enter expensive striker's name- ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 How many times do we need to post that Lukaku was loaned out for the season ?Prices might be inflated, but it never stopped Chelsea from buying before.Someone is coming in January, I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 People actually think we'll get Falcao or -enter expensive striker's name- ? Wouldn't be the transfer window at TC without 200 pages about Falcao! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,431 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I believe a reasonably price quality CM and CB would be all that we require to push for the title.. Demba ba and Eto'o have shown that they can lead the line for us effectively would use those two more and Torres very sparingly.. But we really need reinforce CM and CB above all else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I believe a reasonably price quality CM and CB would be all that we require to push for the title.. Demba ba and Eto'o have shown that they can lead the line for us effectively would use those two more and Torres very sparingly.. But we really need reinforce CM and CB above all elseI really dont feel like Eto'o and Ba "can lead the line for us", honestly. They are good strikers, but 'good' is not good enough for a title. Do you have any idea how big of a push a world class striker would give us? it would be immense if we signed one of the top guys, Lewa, Falcao ...We do need a CM aswell, in January. CB I don't think we need, not in Jan atleast.. Only if Luiz's injury turns out to be worse than we thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,431 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I really dont feel like Eto'o and Ba "can lead the line for us", honestly. They are good strikers, but 'good' is not good enough for a title. Do you have any idea how big of a push a world class striker would give us? it would be immense if we signed one of the top guys, Lewa, Falcao ...We do need a CM aswell, in January. CB I don't think we need, not in Jan atleast.. Only if Luiz's injury turns out to be worse than we thought.Olivier Giroud is a good striker and he is leading arsenal line just well .. We are very similiar to them where as our midfild does the majority of our scoring..I think that Ba especially can do the job Giroud does for Arsenal as long as we have the right AMs and CMs behind him.. Look what he could accomplish with Cabaye and Ben Arfa behind him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Olivier Giroud is a good striker and he is leading arsenal line just well .. We are very similiar to them where as our midfild does the majority of our scoring..I think that Ba especially can do the job Giroud does for Arsenal as long as we have the right AMs and CMs behind him.. Look what he could accomplish with Cabaye and Ben Arfa behind himWell he has 7 goals and 4 assists in the league. Eto'o has 2 goals and 3 assits.. 162 min per goal vs. 222.Giroud is doing pretty well this season, actually.And Arsenal have not won the league yet, wait till they face harder opponents, wait untill after christmas when their limited squad depth will be really missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,431 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well he has 7 goals and 4 assists in the league. Eto'o has 2 goals and 3 assits.. 162 min per goal vs. 222.Giroud is doing pretty well this season, actually.And Arsenal have not won the league yet, wait till they face harder opponents, wait untill after christmas when their limited squad depth will be really missed.I agree with the bold but you also have to look at Ba when played as undisputed number 1 striker how many goals he scores or assists.. Giroud has better numbers because he plays every game bar injury for them.. I'm more than happy with Eto'o and Ba as long as they contribute .. Title winning chelsea of old Never really had that 20+goals in the PL striker but fantasic team strikers who would poach and create goals as long as Ba Eto'o and Torres can do this we have the goals in the Mid to be pushing for the Title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I agree with the bold but you also have to look at Ba when played as undisputed number 1 striker how many goals he scores or assists.. Giroud has better numbers because he plays every game bar injury for them.. I'm more than happy with Eto'o and Ba as long as they contribute .. Title winning chelsea of old Never really had that 20+goals in the PL striker but fantasic team strikers who would poach and create goals as long as Ba Eto'o and Torres can do this we have the goals in the Mid to be pushing for the TitleI'm not saying that we cant win the title with only Ba Eto'o and Torres, but a good striker will definately improve our chances, a lot.We need a world class striker anyways, if not this January then in the summer.. so why not do it now ?If none of the top ones are available though so let it be, dont want to pay crazy money because its January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,431 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm not saying that we cant win the title with only Ba Eto'o and Torres, but a good striker will definately improve our chances, a lot.We need a world class striker anyways, if not this January then in the summer.. so why not do it now ?If none of the top ones are available though so let it be, dont want to pay crazy money because its January.I think striker not a priority this window.. Summer window 100% Lukaku next season will not be enough firepower to win us the league.. We should get what we really need now which is most definitely a replavement for Frank in our midfield and look to buy a top class striker in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,381 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 This'll easily be the least excited I've been about a transfer window in years. Don't think we'll be seeing any incomings. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I would happily take M. Diame still, in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think striker not a priority this window.. Summer window 100% Lukaku next season will not be enough firepower to win us the league.. We should get what we really need now which is most definitely a replavement for Frank in our midfield and look to buy a top class striker in the summerI'd still like to see a striker this January, but a CM is definately needed.IMO though we wont buy anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I would happily take M. Diame still, in January.he is a very strong tackler and dribbler but i dont think his passing is good enough. but he would only cost like 1-3m so it could work out great quickpassnmove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 he is a very strong tackler and dribbler but i dont think his passing is good enough. but he would only cost like 1-3m so it could work out greathe can pass well enough --AND-- he can push past defenders with his speed and strength --while on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think getting a 30 goals per season striker is useless, because our team plays as team and we never play on striker alone. Falcao scored those goals because he got all the balls. Here, he would get maybe 1/3 of the balls in attack. We need a striker who can link up well, create and hold the ball. And finish when he gets a chance.Besides, we should try to sign Pogba, kid has all the talent in the world to be world class player. While there are many top AM players like Goetze, Hazard, Neymar or Isco, you dont find many great CM/DM talented players like Pogba. We should at least try to get him, but only if he would start games under Mou. kellzfresh and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,381 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think getting a 30 goals per season striker is useless, because our team plays as team and we never play on striker alone. Falcao scored those goals because he got all the balls. Here, he would get maybe 1/3 of the balls in attack. We need a striker who can link up well, create and hold the ball. And finish when he gets a chance.Besides, we should try to sign Pogba, kid has all the talent in the world to be world class player. While there are many top AM players like Goetze, Hazard, Neymar or Isco, you dont find many great CM/DM talented players like Pogba. We should at least try to get him, but only if he would start games under Mou.I'd love Pogba. Juventus would demand so much for him though. That's the big problem with trying to buy a top class CM in January. Most of them are playing on CL contending sides and they won't want to sell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If RVP really wants to leave then we would be mad not to bid. Funny that only a few months ago he was talking about finishing his career at United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Completely agree.Arsenal lacked steel in the middle when Song was there. Even Arteta has been better than Song in that holding position.Song's problem was positioning. Far too often, he would get caught high up the pitch, and leave the defense exposed. From what I've seen of him at Barca he seems to have improved on this aspect of his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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