Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Jase 43,479]

James Maddison set to sign a new 4-year deal at Leicester apparently. 

[King Kante 1,643]

Are there any players from the relegated sides that people like the look of? In my opinion, at Watford Sarr is going to be a very good player, whilst someone like Ben Foster (who will probably not go to a big club) would make a excellent GK2 option. At Norwich, there is Cantwell, Aarons, Lewis and Beudia (although I see absolutely no place for them here owing to the nature of our squad needs/make up). At Bournemouth their is Ake (probably too small as SFL has already said this is an issue). 

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1 minute ago, King Kante said:

Are there any players from the relegated sides that people like the look of? In my opinion, at Watford Sarr is going to be a very good player, whilst someone like Ben Foster (who will probably not go to a big club) would make a excellent GK2 option. At Norwich, there is Cantwell, Aarons, Lewis and Beudia (although I see absolutely no place for them here owing to the nature of our squad needs/make up). At Bournemouth their is Ake (probably too small as SFL has already said this is an issue). 

Speaking of that...

 

[King Kante 1,643]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Speaking of that...

 

Doesn't surprise me, Aarons is very canny in that he doesn't really do anything wrong and gets up and down pretty well. However, with the club captain being there and James in reserve and trusted by the club Aarons/new RB is way down the priority list and possibly even bottom. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

 

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[King Kante 1,643]

49 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Should have sold last year. He is now a year older, coming off a bad season (which I actually think is reflective of his true ability), Utd have a 25% sell on clause, he earns over £100k and we are now in Corona times. Only chance they get over £35m now is if Everton are still buying players whilst on crack.  

It is funny you had this here as I have just got off the phone to my cousin who is a Palace supporter (all my Dad's side are apart from him.) He just told me something that absolutely cracked me up.

So, as we all know Palace cannot score a goal to save their lives (31 in 38 games) and they sent Sorloth (23 years old at the time) off to Turkey in August. Anyway, long story short, the kid cracked in 24 goals and got 9 assists and finished the top scorer in the league and won rave reviews. However, some bright spark on the Palace board sent him out for 2 years, didn't put a recall clause in and gave Trabzonspor a option to buy clause of only €6m. 

I was honestly nearly crying he was so pissed. This is probably up there with paying £30m for Benteke. 

[Vesper 30,175]

3 hours ago, King Kante said:

Should have sold last year. He is now a year older, coming off a bad season (which I actually think is reflective of his true ability), Utd have a 25% sell on clause, he earns over £100k and we are now in Corona times. Only chance they get over £35m now is if Everton are still buying players whilst on crack.  

It is funny you had this here as I have just got off the phone to my cousin who is a Palace supporter (all my Dad's side are apart from him.) He just told me something that absolutely cracked me up.

So, as we all know Palace cannot score a goal to save their lives (31 in 38 games) and they sent Sorloth (23 years old at the time) off to Turkey in August. Anyway, long story short, the kid cracked in 24 goals and got 9 assists and finished the top scorer in the league and won rave reviews. However, some bright spark on the Palace board sent him out for 2 years, didn't put a recall clause in and gave Trabzonspor a option to buy clause of only €6m. 

I was honestly nearly crying he was so pissed. This is probably up there with paying £30m for Benteke. 

Sørloth is up to 32 goals, 10 assists all comps, and still has the Cup final to play.

Palace are fools.

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[Vesper 30,175]

16 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Spurs also want him.

Got me thinking...

What a defense Turkey have! They never used this (probably because they all had breakthrough this season) 3 CB formation but they should!

                    Cakir

   Kabak    Soyuncu    Demirel

They may do Greece 2004 next EURO if they have some good attacking players.

Goodluck scoring against this defense.

 

yep, been saying thsi for months, and I think Kabak may end up the best of the lot. he impressed the hell out m on a very bläääää Schalke team.. But all three seem rock solid.

Should blow away England CB's within a year or 2 (by WC time)

like you said, Turkey is probably a big darkhorse

[King Kante 1,643]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

Sørloth is up to 32 goals, 10 assists all comps, and still has the Cup final to play.

Palace are fools.

Haha, indeed. I mean, with the way they go about business I just cannot fathom it. They brought the guy for £9m and ok he didn't settle or play that well last year on loan either, however to give a two year loan with no recall plus a £5.4m option is just a hiding to nothing unless he completely flops, but in that case the loaning club will just send him back. 

3 hours ago, Jason said:

 

The more I think of how our team is shaping up for next season, the more I see the need for a Partey type player. Problem however is Kante, whose level is dropping off but would still command a good offer for us to sell. Also, he appears to be loved by the fans and the staff. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

10 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Just pay low release clause...

[King Kante 1,643]

25 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Just pay low release clause...

I think the problem atm is the amount of midfielders we have on the books. With Harvetz, we need to shift Baka, Barkley and Drinky as a minimum. To accommodate a Partey, you're then looking at least one of Kante or Jorgi. If we are interested then I would say we need to sell before we can buy. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

13 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I think the problem atm is the amount of midfielders we have on the books. With Harvetz, we need to shift Baka, Barkley and Drinky as a minimum. To accommodate a Partey, you're then looking at least one of Kante or Jorgi. If we are interested then I would say we need to sell before we can buy. 

I was thinking about Arsenal 

Why they have two offers rejected when he has RC.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

15 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I think the problem atm is the amount of midfielders we have on the books. With Harvetz, we need to shift Baka, Barkley and Drinky as a minimum. To accommodate a Partey, you're then looking at least one of Kante or Jorgi. If we are interested then I would say we need to sell before we can buy. 

I think you must be right about this but I also think we should be selling N'Golo this summer. I have fully bought into @Vesper's reasoning on this. Trading N'Golo for someone like Partey or Zakaria makes sense to me, especially if we can do so at a profit.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

8 hours ago, King Kante said:

Haha, indeed. I mean, with the way they go about business I just cannot fathom it. They brought the guy for £9m and ok he didn't settle or play that well last year on loan either, however to give a two year loan with no recall plus a £5.4m option is just a hiding to nothing unless he completely flops, but in that case the loaning club will just send him back. 

The more I think of how our team is shaping up for next season, the more I see the need for a Partey type player. Problem however is Kante, whose level is dropping off but would still command a good offer for us to sell. Also, he appears to be loved by the fans and the staff. 

N'Golo is definitely loved, and quite rightly, but it is still time to sell.

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I think somehow united will get Sancho, they will pay the fee in the end.                                                                                                                                      

[Vesper 30,175]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

N'Golo is definitely loved, and quite rightly, but it is still time to sell.

4 simple reasons why

1. he soon is 30yo (right when winter ends), and this is the last summer we can get massive cash/swap value for him, his value plummets after this summer (unless we squeeze out a January last ditch swap/sale)

2. he is FAR too often injured now, it is hurting the team

3. He simply is a square peg in a round hole in many of Lampard's formations, especially a 3 man MF where he is on the right, Lamp's ramming him back in fucked us up badly in mid-season in many games

4. The 4 teams who are most interested in him all have players we both need and should dearly covet via a swap or a swap + cash if needed (Varane, Marquinhos, Giménez or Oblak, Skriniar) it certainly cannot hurt to clandestinely ask them if they are open to any sort of deal

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Unless we actualy bring world class DM and CB, it would be completely idiotic to sell our best defensive player. 

Yes he is getting on that 30s side, but you usualy dont sell players just because they are getting to that age. Also he had few injuries because he was rushed back too soon IMO. 

But the fact that we have shite defence has little to do with him. Jorginho and our CBs are often non existing. Alonso is making hotdogs while returing in defence. Wingers dont track back enough. Mount, Kova and Azpi are only ones doing the work. If you place a proper balanced side with good CBs and DM (which is standard if we want to win silverware) Kante will be the key part in the midfield. If we dont bring CB and DM, then we wont be competing for titles, hence its better to at least keep Kante or our defense will be beyond bad. We conceded 20!!! more goals than Pool, City or United this season.

I mean people want Kante to be creative and to be DM yada yada. He is best b2b defensive midfielder in the world. Thats his job. Not assisting or scoring, not holding the backline but running around and stop opponents from organising attack. But its hard if you are one man with teammates who cant defend against 10 opponents. Have you been watching how horrendus Rudiger, Zouma, Kepa, Alonso, Jorgi are in defensive actions? David Luiz bad. Its just that they are all so bad it has become a standard and they dont stand out that much anymore when making mistake after mistake.