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Kai Havertz has an agreement in place with Bayer Leverkusen that allows him to move in the next transfer window, according to Goal. Bayern CEO has confirmed they will not be signing him....  

 

 

 

[mention=16599]Vesper[/mention] You also mentioned this Pao Torres in your CB talent list. How much do you rate this guy, because I assume you have watched him okay 

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[milka 3,407]

Pau Torres could be a serious option for Chelsea. Left footed, good height and have a release clause. It's in the line of lampard latest comment regarding height aerial dominance.

But  Spanish CB's have never been physically imposing enough for me, not the PL kind I'm sorry. Haven't had a domineering CB since Fernando Hierro, with all due respect to Puyol (good leader just not suited for the Prem imo)-and Ramos. Never rated Pique

[killer1257 3,282]

Pau Torres could be a serious option for Chelsea. Left footed, good height and have a release clause. It's in the line of lampard latest comment regarding height aerial dominance.
But  Spanish CB's have never been physically imposing enough for me, not the PL kind I'm sorry. Haven't had a domineering CB since Fernando Hierro, with all due respect to Puyol (good leader just not suited for the Prem imo)-and Ramos. Never rated Pique

I still would rather buy Milenkovic, who seems more physical. We could buy Torres one year after that, so we had one very strong defender and one very technical defender

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[Magic Lamps 11,692]

On 4.7.2020 at 1:17 PM, killer1257 said:

I still would rather buy Milenkovic, who seems more physical. We could buy Torres one year after that, so we had one very strong defender and one very technical defender

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leaning towards the same. The problem is not that our defenders are not tall enough or technical enough but that they are not smart enough and not tough enough. Idont know how smart Torresis but he for sure is not a hard ass and would get bullied by Antonio and Soucek all the same.

[Vesper 31,181]

lol 

Bournemouth

lets spend £30m over four years on Jordon Ibe

then release him on a free after he scores THREE league goals total in the 4 years

that is some sorta near Drinkwater level shit there

and he is only 24 still, so will find another team to scam simply becuase he is English

biggest racket in football this home grown shit

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Summary:

Borussia Dortmund is negotiating from a comfortable situation, despite the effects from the corona crisis. And BVB is unwilling to move even an inch away from its ideas.

A corona discount, managing director Watzke said last week, will not be given to Jadon Sancho, "not a euro". According to information from Ruhr Nachrichten, Borussia Dortmund has now deposited the framework conditions for a transfer with the only real interested party, the red devils. Manchester United are informed that Sancho may switch for a fixed amount of 120 million euros this summer.

No other serious prospects for the 20-year-old shooting star have knocked on the door in Dortmund. Chelsea are out of the race after investing in Timo Werner, Liverpool are apparently more focused on strengthening the defensive midfield and have targeted Bayern's Thiago. And a return to Manchester City three years after saying goodbye with some noise, after Sancho unilaterally terminated his training contract, the almighty coach Pep Guardiola has already classified as not smart and advisable.

The position of the player is still open towards Dortmund. Sancho's father is said to have been at the office in Dortmund in June. The club has so far received no signals that Jadon Sancho wants to leave BVB at any cost.

Dortmund want it done before August 10th. If he even gets on the plane to Bad Ragaz, he's staying at Dortmund.

[Vesper 31,181]

CIES Football Observatory

n°303 - 06/07/2020

Values

Top transfer value increases with one more year of contract

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2019/wp303/en/

 

The 303rd edition of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the big-5 league players whose transfer value would increase the most if their contract with the club of belonging was extended for an additional year. The most positive gap overall was recorded for Jadon Sancho (+€43M), ahead of Kylian Mbappé (+€39M) and Lionel Messi (+€35M).

With two years of contract remaining, the transfer value of Jadon Sancho according to the exclusive CIES Football Observatory algorithm is currently just above €180M. A one-year contract extension would drive this figure up to €223M. If Kylian Mbappé extended his contract with Paris St-Germain from June 2022 to June 2023, his estimated transfer value would increase from €242M to €281M.

Lionel Messi leads the table among players with only one year of contract remaining ahead of Georginio Wijnaldum and Ferran Torres. By renewing their contracts for an additional year, their transfer values would increase from about €80M to €115M for Messi, from €44M to €64M for Wijnaldum, as well as from €42M to €61M for Torres.

Transfer value increases for one year contract extension (€ million)

Big-5 leagues players, 01/07/2020

 

[King Kante 1,643]

59 minutes ago, Vesper said:

CIES Football Observatory

n°303 - 06/07/2020

Values

Top transfer value increases with one more year of contract

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2019/wp303/en/

 

The 303rd edition of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the big-5 league players whose transfer value would increase the most if their contract with the club of belonging was extended for an additional year. The most positive gap overall was recorded for Jadon Sancho (+€43M), ahead of Kylian Mbappé (+€39M) and Lionel Messi (+€35M).

With two years of contract remaining, the transfer value of Jadon Sancho according to the exclusive CIES Football Observatory algorithm is currently just above €180M. A one-year contract extension would drive this figure up to €223M. If Kylian Mbappé extended his contract with Paris St-Germain from June 2022 to June 2023, his estimated transfer value would increase from €242M to €281M.

Lionel Messi leads the table among players with only one year of contract remaining ahead of Georginio Wijnaldum and Ferran Torres. By renewing their contracts for an additional year, their transfer values would increase from about €80M to €115M for Messi, from €44M to €64M for Wijnaldum, as well as from €42M to €61M for Torres.

Transfer value increases for one year contract extension (€ million)

Big-5 leagues players, 01/07/2020

 

Didn't realise F.Torres only had a year left. He is a very interesting player. Doesn't get the most amazing stats but his play between/breaking the lines and close control is very very high. He is one of those AM's like B.Silva for City, will be a very smart signing imo. 

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[King Kante 1,643]

5 hours ago, milka said:

 

Yeah, this is coming from Simon Johnson though. The man that wrote a feature length article on how Pedro was not signing an extension three days before Pedro signed an extension. So, whilst it may happen, this bloke doesn't know anything we don't. 

[NikkiCFC 8,529]

Leon Bailey may be available for just 30m. Would be great buy for someone like Newcastle or Everton.

[Vesper 31,181]

3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Leon Bailey may be available for just 30m. Would be great buy for someone like Newcastle or Everton.

Everton for sure, they have fuckall at RW, only a washed up Walcott

and tbh, fuckall at either wing unless you count Richarlison as a winger

Iwobi and Bernard are doghsit

 

Allan Saint-Maximin is NUFC's only decent winger

but if the headchoppers are banned from buying them, they will not be doing shit

[Vesper 31,181]

Arsenal and Newcastle ‘target’ Weghorst previously compared to Edin Dzeko

https://tbrfootball.com/arsenal-and-newcastle-target-weghorst-previously-compared-to-edin-dzeko/

Arsenal and Newcastle United are both said to be interested in signing Wolfsburg striker Wout Weghorst.

According to a recent report from SportBild, the Premier League clubs have been left impressed by the £32 million-rated Dutch international, who has plundered 20 goals in 42 games this season.

The 27-year-old has been making a name for himself over in the Bundesliga since arriving in 2018, and his playstyle has gotten people talking.

Standing at 6ft 5in, Weghorst is known for using his physicality to great effect.

That, combined with his eye for goal, saw the Bundesliga’s official website previously draw comparisons to Edin Dzeko.

The site wrote: “Like the Bosnia and Herzegovina striker, Weghorst is happy to get stuck into challenges, hold up play and – when necessary – pass to teammates in better scoring positions.

“Though not as two-footed as Dzeko, Weghorst has scored with 12 of his 51 shots on goal, and teed up another 89 for his teammates. Meanwhile, his excellent link-up play with Daniel Ginczek is more than a little reminiscent of Dzeko’s formidable partnership with Brazilian forward Grafite.

[blu35_army 551]

12 hours ago, Vesper said:

CIES Football Observatory

n°303 - 06/07/2020

Values

Top transfer value increases with one more year of contract

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2019/wp303/en/

 

The 303rd edition of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the big-5 league players whose transfer value would increase the most if their contract with the club of belonging was extended for an additional year. The most positive gap overall was recorded for Jadon Sancho (+€43M), ahead of Kylian Mbappé (+€39M) and Lionel Messi (+€35M).

With two years of contract remaining, the transfer value of Jadon Sancho according to the exclusive CIES Football Observatory algorithm is currently just above €180M. A one-year contract extension would drive this figure up to €223M. If Kylian Mbappé extended his contract with Paris St-Germain from June 2022 to June 2023, his estimated transfer value would increase from €242M to €281M.

Lionel Messi leads the table among players with only one year of contract remaining ahead of Georginio Wijnaldum and Ferran Torres. By renewing their contracts for an additional year, their transfer values would increase from about €80M to €115M for Messi, from €44M to €64M for Wijnaldum, as well as from €42M to €61M for Torres.

Transfer value increases for one year contract extension (€ million)

Big-5 leagues players, 01/07/2020

 

wow,,Donnaruma is quitely intereseting. but,,since his Super agent Mino Raiola is hardly annoying to negotiate,,would be a great replacement for Kepa if he still not make a good progress this season...

[Vesper 31,181]

On 07/07/2020 at 3:35 AM, blu35_army said:

wow,,Donnaruma is quitely intereseting. but,,since his Super agent Mino Raiola is hardly annoying to negotiate,,would be a great replacement for Kepa if he still not make a good progress this season...

that cunt Mino Raiola is the agent for so many players I like

Paul Pogba    
Erling Haaland    
Matthijs de Ligt  
Marco Verratti    
Gianluigi Donnarumma    
Alessio Romagnoli  
Donyell Malen    
Marcus Thuram   
Calvin Stengs    
Myron Boadu    
Luca Pellegrini   
Andrea Pinamonti    
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Diadie Samassékou   
Ryan Gravenberch  
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On 06/07/2020 at 3:09 PM, King Kante said:

Didn't realise F.Torres only had a year left. He is a very interesting player. Doesn't get the most amazing stats but his play between/breaking the lines and close control is very very high. He is one of those AM's like B.Silva for City, will be a very smart signing imo. 

For what it's worth, Guillem Balague really likes Torres.

[milka 3,407]

 Kai Havertz has asked his club to reach an agreement to leave and join Chelsea (RMC Sport) #CFC #RMCF #B04

Chelsea are willing to meet Bayer’s €100m valuation for Havertz, but want instalmental payments. Chelsea could offer €70m up front and €30-40m at a later date. #CFC

 

Chelsea close on Havertz as player wants Stamford Bridge move - sources

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/4131319/chelsea-close-on-havertz-as-player-wants-stamford-bridge-move-sources?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Success of Fernandes should make it easier for Sancho to see future at United

https://theathletic.com/1909219/2020/07/08/manchester-united-jadon-sancho-solskjaer/

It might be a little early to say with absolute authority that the players driving Manchester United’s revival are capable of turning all this upward momentum into something more consistent and meaningful.

There is, however, a soaring belief at Old Trafford that their recent improvement offers clear evidence to say, at the very least, they are no longer willing to tolerate the idea that it is only Liverpool and Manchester City having all the fun.

How could you come to any other conclusion? Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s players are operating with a new spirit of adventure, racking up a run of freewheeling wins while simultaneously presenting their case to Jadon Sancho that, yes, this is the place where he can achieve his ambitions.

Those players appear to have been reminded about what a Manchester United team ought to look like. It has extended their unbeaten stretch, pre- and post-lockdown, to 16 games and, whatever stresses they have had to endure before this point, they also seem to have figured out it is still possible to give their season a happy ending. They might just have heard the penny drop.

If this has to be tempered with an element of caution, it is because there have been other periods during the post-Ferguson years when sporadic bursts of optimism have been overtaken by a succession of false dawns, jarring disappointments and more transfer-window trauma than a club with United’s ambitions will probably wish to remember.

Even now, there are imperfections, such as the puzzle of David de Gea and the persistent suspicion that Harry Maguire — with his vulnerability to quick, penetrative opponents — remains a notch or two below the level where Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Jaap Stam and United’s other great centre-halves were marked.

Maguire was deceived too easily for Bournemouth’s opening goal in United’s 5-2 win at Old Trafford on Saturday and there was a moment during the water break when Solskjaer seemed to forget there were television cameras on them. The manager remembered in time to show a measure of restraint but it was quite something to see the look he gave United’s occasionally accident-prone £80 million man. It was a death stare of which Al Pacino would have been proud.

As for De Gea, he has not looked this susceptible since his first season at the club. Back then, at least there was the ready-made excuse of him being raw and inexperienced in English football. It is much harder these days to understand what is wrong, though one suspicion within the club is that he is no longer pushing himself as hard as he once was.

De Gea was United’s Player of the Year in four out of five seasons — more than any other player in the club’s history, overtaking Cristiano Ronaldo in 2018 — and the contract he signed last September was initially reported as £350,000 a week until someone very high up at Old Trafford made it clear the true figure was actually a heck of a lot more. Has a once-brilliant performer allowed complacency, the corrosive byproduct of sustained success, to creep in?

Solskjaer must find it immensely encouraging otherwise to see the way his team has set about improving their league position. Solskjaer’s own performance has been under scrutiny but that will ease up, too, if United continue to play with the strength of personality and engaging skill that has seen them produce arguably the best football in the country since the Premier League’s resumption.

In doing so, they are also sending a clear message to Sancho. Forget the recent reports that United are refusing to go higher than £50 million to persuade Borussia Dortmund to part company with Sancho. Those stories were a surprise to the people involved in the negotiations. If Sancho has been keeping track of United’s improved form, it is easy to understand why the 20-year-old England international might find the idea of a move to Old Trafford increasingly appealing.

Sancho has always made it a stipulation that he wants to join a club that is a) free of disruption in the Champions League and c) capable of challenging for multiple trophies. Earlier in the season, it was not certain that United could tick any of those boxes. Then Bruno Fernandes signed from Sporting Lisbon and suddenly every United game has started to feel like a grand occasion again.

In analysing their unbeaten run since February, even a casual observer could see that the mid-season arrival from Portugal has been at the heart of it all.

What Sancho can see at United now is a more settled club where Paul Pogba, free of injuries and transfer talk, seems to be playing with renewed purpose and Anthony Martial is demonstrating that maybe he does have it in him to make the leap from being a talented, occasionally brilliant footballer into one who touches those heights consistently.

There are some reputable managers — Didier Deschamps, Jose Mourinho and Claudio Ranieri among them — who have grown exasperated by Martial’s apparent inability to grasp this subtle yet important difference. However, it seems United are seeing the benefits of not allowing Mourinho to get his way when their previous manager wanted to sell Martial.

Mourinho, who was not accustomed to being overruled, always suspected the decision was taken by Joel Glazer, one of the club’s American directors, because Martial was his favourite player and — you can imagine the mix of disdain and sarcasm in Mourinho’s voice — because the feeling in Florida was that this was United’s Pele.

Well, Martial is a fair bit off that level, but he has now accumulated 20 goals in 39 games this season. It is the first time Martial has reached the 20-goal mark in his five years in Manchester and, given his present form, it will be intriguing to see whether Deschamps recalls him for France’s games against Sweden and Croatia in early September.

Martial’s international career has been restricted so far to 18 caps — nine coming as a substitute — and just a solitary goal. His last cap was a friendly against Russia in March 2018 and he was substituted after 58 minutes. Nor has it helped that on the two occasions France have called him up since the last World Cup, he has withdrawn with injury, only to start for his club the following weekend.

The more important detail for United is that, on recent evidence, Solskjaer’s players turned a corner. Perhaps as a result of the upturn in form, the bond between the players and their current manager appears to be considerably stronger than it was with the previous one. Just look at the key players.

Pogba has hopefully gone past the stage whereby Solskjaer, like Mourinho, might have felt entitled to ask the question: what am I going to get from you today?

In his recent performances, Martial cannot be accused of the alleged lack of effort that saw him lampooned in United’s Red News fanzine and has meant his two-year-plus absence from Deschamps’ France squad has generated very little controversy.

Marcus Rashford is getting better and better, season by season, and Mason Greenwood’s acceleration towards superstar status indicates that, if a deal does happen for Sancho, we should not just assume the new recruit would be a mandatory first-team pick.

Solskjaer says that Greenwood, who has been operating on the right side of attack, is possibly the best finisher he has ever worked with and that is some statement at a club where they usually go to strenuous efforts not to hype up their young players.

The context here is that Solskjaer has played with, among others, Eric Cantona, Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, Teddy Sheringham, Wayne Rooney, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Cristiano Ronaldo. Yet there has been absolutely nothing to suggest United’s latest prodigy will let the manager’s acclaim go to his head.

This is one of Solskjaer’s criteria to be a first-team player at Old Trafford: humility off the pitch, arrogance on it. Arrogance means to want the ball and to stand tall after pulling on that red shirt, which shows you are representing one of the greatest football clubs in the world. Rashford is the prime example. Greenwood, thrillingly, seems to be, too.

What Solskjaer will also realise is that it is futile taking too much encouragement from the statistic that tells us Martial, Rashford and Greenwood have accumulated more goals for United this season (55) than Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino have for Liverpool (51). It is a nice, quirky statistic but nothing more and, ultimately, what does it matter when Liverpool are finishing the season as a tiny speck in the distance?

The two clubs are separated by a gap of 34 points. Gap? It is more of a chasm, even if Solskjaer could be forgiven for wondering what difference it would have made to United’s season if they had gone for Fernandes last summer rather than waiting, for reasons never fully explained, until January.

Fernandes, unable to find a buyer, signed a new contract at Sporting Lisbon in November and that was the point when United decided that he was, after all, worth going after. He would have been cheaper last summer and, boy, the team needed him during those long, difficult periods when they were grubbing around for points outside the top six and, in the worst moments, dreadfully short of wit and creativity.

Can anybody be surprised that people find United’s recruitment so bewildering? To their credit, £47 million for Fernandes still looks a very good deal. Not least when he is showing Sancho the fun that could be had with this team.

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