iseah100 5,612 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I confess that I am guilty of 'abandoning' a player when I don't believe in them. So, for example, I'm not watching Bamford or any of the Vitesse contingent any more because I've decided that only Solanke has any hope with Chelsea and even that is a very, very slim hope. This means that if such players have a surge in form I don't tend to be aware of it until I read about it here. What you've told me about Lewis is therefore news to me. I'm pleased for him and maybe I should check him out again but the truth is, although form comes and goes, I don't believe he has the required quality to be a Chelsea player. I'll let you know if I watch him and start to change my mind. With Bamford, although I have watched him from time to time, the truth is I wrote off his Chelsea chances before he even went on his first loan to MK Dons. I've seen nothing since which encourages me to revise that view. On the other hand, I watch every minute I can of Musonda because there, I do have belief. I've also been following Christiansen, Pasalic, Boga and Ake. I understand that. It's impossible to follow ALL our loanees, but I've liked Baker for a long time. He has played the 5th most minutes at Vitesse and is a quality young player. There is a reason he has capitaned the U-21 National team. He is a player who at the very least should be given a chance and could become a valuable role player. Bamford did well last season at Boro and played well vs City last week. I still have hope in him as well, maybe it's blind optimism but I'd much rather these guys be the role players then some others we have. MichaelDance, chelseafan26, mccg and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, iseah100 said: I understand that. It's impossible to follow ALL our loanees, but I've liked Baker for a long time. He has played the 5th most minutes at Vitesse and is a quality young player. There is a reason he has capitaned the U-21 National team. He is a player who at the very least should be given a chance and could become a valuable role player. Bamford did well last season at Boro and played well vs City last week. I still have hope in him as well, maybe it's blind optimism but I'd much rather these guys be the role players then some others we have. You've sold me on giving Baker another chance but Bamford will take more work. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: You've sold me on giving Baker another chance but Bamford will take more work. Bamford's not going to happen. His ceiling is lower than Borini's IMO. Hope he turns it around, but I'm not expecting anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: Bamford's not going to happen. His ceiling is lower than Borini's IMO. Hope he turns it around, but I'm not expecting anything. Wish I could disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Wish I could disagree with you. Yeah. I think most fans over-estimate their youth (remember when everyone was clamouring for Cork and Di Santo to get more minutes because they were going to be world class?). But, the reality is, that Bamford is probably a rotation player on a bottom team in the Premier League. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 23 hours ago, bellion said: The £64,000 question is this - how much is the Board willing to spend on players? My sceptical self tells me that the net spend will be the same or even lower than last summer ( less than 10 million pounds) and it's very likely that we will spend it on more Papys and washed-out former superstars on loan (Robinho anyone?). I do not believe for even a minute that the Board will buy any player in that list above although they will make a pretense of bidding for top players with initial derisory bids which eventually end up with zilch. At least they tried which is their planned message to gullible fans. Hence, there will be no shitloads of cash spent but there will be massive shit on the pitch when the new season begins with the same Defence and Midfield starting (minus Terry, Hazard and maybe Costa) and the club battles relegation. But hey, at least the balance sheet looks healthy. I hope Conte refuses to sign if he's not promised a massive transfer kitty. Well it looks like Conte hasn't even decided whether hes coming or going to a Serie A club yet but i couldn't imagine ANY TOP manager agreeing to come here on this seasons bodge job unless there was an agreement in his contract that there will be funds available to him for new transfers and that he was the priority decision maker for incomings and outgoings. BUT saying that I would imagine that Mou being Mou would have had that in HIS contract also. So that either makes it his fault for the last 3 crap market windows, not one decent player that we tried to get wanted to come here or Roman/Gran/Emenalo et al are a bunch of wankers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Well it looks like Conte hasn't even decided whether hes coming or going to a Serie A club yet but i couldn't imagine ANY TOP manager agreeing to come here on this seasons bodge job unless there was an agreement in his contract that there will be funds available to him for new transfers and that he was the priority decision maker for incomings and outgoings. BUT saying that I would imagine that Mou being Mou would have had that in HIS contract also. So that either makes it his fault for the last 3 crap market windows, not one decent player that we tried to get wanted to come here or Roman/Gran/Emenalo et al are a bunch of wankers. I see the Board being unyielding - they will insist that any new manager will have to work with a net transfer budget smaller than Bournemouth's by rigorously applying the one in and one out policy. Hence, don't expect any decent manager to sign on the dotted line. The club might as well look at the Championship and the Scottish league for cheap manager hires who will be thrilled just being at the Bridge and wouldn't spend more than a few hundred K per season. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Just now, bellion said: I see the Board being unyielding - they will insist that any new manager will have to work with a net transfer budget smaller than Bournemouth's by rigorously applying the one in and one out policy. Hence, don't expect any decent manager to sign on the dotted line. The club might as well look at the Championship and the Scottish league for cheap manager hires who will be thrilled just being at the Bridge and wouldn't spend more than a few hundred K per season. Blimey I hope you are miserably wrong.Idont so mind one for one but Id much rather it be one in one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Unionjack said: Blimey I hope you are miserably wrong.Idont so mind one for one but Id much rather it be one in one out. Based on recent activities, the ones coming in could very well be more Papys and Patos while the ones leaving could be Costa and Hazard. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 PLEASE GOD can Conte please say "Conte partiro" as he sells the players HAHAHA chelseafan26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 i would love to see conte bring in vidal bonucci nainggolan cavani in the summer if possible we would be hard to beat again with them players mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 4 hours ago, the wes said: i would love to see conte bring in vidal bonucci nainggolan cavani in the summer if possible we would be hard to beat again with them players Yip agree m8(Hummels for cb i'd think b good fit) and bring afew homegrowns into the setup,Ake,Christensein,Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues.bridge 343 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 next year, would you like ? courtois christiensen-Varane-Zouma RLC- Kante-pogba (matic) Mahrez-fabregas-hazard (kenedy or bertrand) Costa (cavani or other) naturally then there will be replacements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 2 hours ago, blues.bridge said: next year, would you like ? courtois christiensen-Varane-Zouma RLC- Kante-pogba (matic) Mahrez-fabregas-hazard (kenedy or bertrand) Costa (cavani or other) naturally then there will be replacements! As a first choice XI? Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues.bridge 343 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 45 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: As a first choice XI? Absolutely not. Why Not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 4 hours ago, blues.bridge said: next year, would you like ? courtois christiensen-Varane-Zouma RLC- Kante-pogba (matic) Mahrez-fabregas-hazard (kenedy or bertrand) Costa (cavani or other) naturally then there will be replacements! the way things are going i cant see courtios being here much long and i cant see Leicester selling their players especially when they are playing CL next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 If Courtois is a gonner (not too bothered if he is) we should go for Butland imo. Young, english and has been great for Stoke this season. Blue_Fox_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 7 hours ago, blues.bridge said: next year, would you like ? courtois christiensen-Varane-Zouma RLC- Kante-pogba (matic) Mahrez-fabregas-hazard (kenedy or bertrand) Costa (cavani or other) naturally then there will be replacements! 4 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: As a first choice XI? Absolutely not. 3 hours ago, blues.bridge said: Why Not? Your back three is potentially very exciting but I'd prefer to add an experienced player like Bonucci in there. If you would argue that Bonucci is a pie-in-the-sky option then it could be claimed that Varane is too. I was not convinced that Andreas was close enough to being a starter before he went to Gladbach. When I've watched him since he has been more impressive going forward than defensively. In a line up that dominates possession this might not be an issue. (Assuming my assessment of his defending is accurate.) I've just seen Ruben subbed for England's U21s and once again he has shown that the questions I asked about him three years ago remain unanswered. The fella needs a loan rather than a starting place he would not hold onto and the damage that would do to his progression. There is a great deal of fuss about Pogba but I've never seen any reason for it. He's a decent player but not one who would justify the monster numbers it would require to recruit him. Worse, given his high profile and the hype around him, if he ended up here it would be evidence that the top clubs with Champions League football don't fancy him. If they did, he would choose one of them rather than us. Pogba falls into the category of player I say we should not bother trying to sign. The type of player who we'll never get if he's as good as the hype, but if we do get him, it will only be because he ain't worth the price and we would have been mugged. I'm fed up with Diego and want to see him replaced by a more technically gifted alternative. Also re the squad players listed: - I've lost belief in Nemanja and do not want to see him here next season. I certainly want to see Kennedy in the next squad but I'd prefer to list Charly Musonda ahead of him as an attacking option. blues.bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Few big names out, few big names in, rest fringe players out the door... Bamford, Nathan, Brown, even Solanke i think are done. Shipped out again next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Andy King anyone? Former Chels lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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