The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 So maybe wait for those amazing reinforcements before proclaiming them the doubtless favourites ... I'm not calling them doubtless favourites but they are definitely up there. They don't need amazing reinforcements either. Up front will be more of depth signing, in defence they'll have to make a pretty big signing but they're still very decent there... They have a very, very good squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Their defense is not weak. Individually, ours and City's defense is not better, after all, Cahill and Ivanovic are starters for us! In attack, I'm pretty sure they will sign another striker but even if they don't, Rooney is capable of getting 15-20 goals as a striker easily. Remains to be seen if Cahill starts for us in the new season, especially if we do land Stones.And what if Rooney's injured? Will Hernandez step up (that is if he even stays)? Di Maria's on a plane to Paris and Pedro will probably come in so it'll be interesting how that plays out. However if they do manage to land someone like Cavani in part exchange with Di Maria I'd agree with you. Di Maria may be the butt of jokes right now but let's not forget he still managed 10 assists in the league (joint 3rd highest) and will be a blow to them.I'm not calling them doubtless favourites but they are definitely up there. They don't need amazing reinforcements either. Up front will be more of depth signing, in defence they'll have to make a pretty big signing but they're still very decent there... They have a very, very good squad.That's more reasonable but my original reply was to Choulo who said they're favourites, no two ways about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you think about it, out of the 4 teams, is United team better than any of them? United's midfield can destroy any team and their attack is certainly better than ours or any other team but their defense is just woeful. so, hard to chooseDunno why people on this board underestimate United's potential for this season so much. They have a cracking line-up.United, City and Arsenal are all title candidates without a doubt.They have a cracking line up but they don't have any chemistry or balance in the team. They keep buying new players, this really hurts the understanding between those players. And for the balance part, they have a great midfield and attack but so poor defence. He buys midfields and strikers and then moans the absence of any good defenders in the team. why did he go out and buy depay when they had young,valencia,di maria, mata. He buys so many CM's and buys shit defenders, then he gets frustrated with the defenders and starts using his midfielders as defenders . Don't even ask me what Van Gaal was thinking when he played Di Maria in attack and Rooney in midfieldSo the point is that Van Gaal just goes out and buys great players without even a thought of what the team is lacking (except Schinederlin, great signing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Their defense is not weak. Individually, ours and City's defense is not better, after all, Cahill and Ivanovic are starters for us! In attack, I'm pretty sure they will sign another striker but even if they don't, Rooney is capable of getting 15-20 goals as a striker easily. No no no no noValencia-Jones-Smalling-Rojo/Blind/Shaw is not better than Iva-Cahill-Terry-Azpi, and once you put Zouma in our back line improves further. If there's one area where we are truly world class, it is defence. Even if Ivanovic tries his hardest to remove that reputation. We might as well invert our right side and play Cuad/Willian as an RB and Iva as an RW...I can see why Jose likes him, though. He does benefit the team offensively.United have "Argentina NT syndrome" - ie brilliant attack, awful defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Don't forget van Gaal is preseason master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 On paper, utd are favorites. There's no two ways about it..according to bet 365 UTD are 4th favourites just behind Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 No no no no noValencia-Jones-Smalling-Rojo/Blind/Shaw is not better than Iva-Cahill-Terry-Azpi, and once you put Zouma in our back line improves further. If there's one area where we are truly world class, it is defence. Even if Ivanovic tries his hardest to remove that reputation. We might as well invert our right side and play Cuad/Willian as an RB and Iva as an RW...I can see why Jose likes him, though. He does benefit the team offensively.United have "Argentina NT syndrome" - ie brilliant attack, awful defense.Our defense is not world class. Not even close. Cahill is an average CB, Zouma still has a lot to learn and a lot of experience to earn. Iva is a CB who thinks he's a ST playing at RB. JT is limited by his lack of pace and that is only emphasized each year. The only world class defender we have at the moment is Azpi. United's defense lacks experience and world class players but they are all good, physically strong defenders with technical ability. Our defense looks a lot better than it actually is because our midfielders have more defensive duties than most teams. lucio, lionsden and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 according to bet 365 UTD are 4th favourites just behind ArsenalMight be worth a bet on United for the title then, Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Might be worth a bet on United for the title then, Ron not for me ,, you waste your own money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 No no no no noValencia-Jones-Smalling-Rojo/Blind/Shaw is not better than Iva-Cahill-Terry-Azpi, and once you put Zouma in our back line improves further. If there's one area where we are truly world class, it is defence. Even if Ivanovic tries his hardest to remove that reputation. We might as well invert our right side and play Cuad/Willian as an RB and Iva as an RW...I can see why Jose likes him, though. He does benefit the team offensively.United have "Argentina NT syndrome" - ie brilliant attack, awful defense.They've bought Darmian for their RB spot and are still in the hunt for a CB. So you'll have Darmian-X-Smalling-Blind/Shaw/Rojo. It's not that bad. Especially if X player is a player like Ramos or Otamendi. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 You guys must have seen 0 man u preseason games....Man U have not looked good in any preseason game. They won all 3, but their general play doesn't reflect the scoreline.Van Gaal says he wants to play 4-3-3, yet every game he has played 4-2-3-1. Depay has played a n10 every game, young on the left and mata on the right with a carrick-morgan pivot. Watch the barcelona game, their midfield was easily dominated by sergio roberto, busquets, and iniesta. Bastian is already out due to injury and in both games, he has looked generally slow. lost the ball quite a bit as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 General argument was united won the transfer market this summer. WRONGMUNICH: 1. Vidal2. Costa3. Kimmich4. UlreichInter Milan1. Kongdobia2. Miranda3. Montoya4. MurilloAtl. Madrid1. Vietto2. Jackson3. Luis4. Savic5. Carrasco*Diego Torres returns from porto loan lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 General argument was united won the transfer market this summer. WRONGMUNICH: 1. Vidal2. Costa3. Kimmich4. UlreichInter Milan1. Kongdobia2. Miranda3. Montoya4. MurilloAtl. Madrid1. Vietto2. Jackson3. Luis4. Savic5. Carrasco*Diego Torres returns from porto loanI do believe inter and at can win their leagues.Utd and lpool , definitely making the most progress in England though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitedkingpin 21 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 You guys must have seen 0 man u preseason games....Man U have not looked good in any preseason game. They won all 3, but their general play doesn't reflect the scoreline.Van Gaal says he wants to play 4-3-3, yet every game he has played 4-2-3-1. Depay has played a n10 every game, young on the left and mata on the right with a carrick-morgan pivot. Watch the barcelona game, their midfield was easily dominated by sergio roberto, busquets, and iniesta. Bastian is already out due to injury and in both games, he has looked generally slow. lost the ball quite a bit as well....Did Chelsea look good in preseason last year? Or even this year? Like we all know it's never a yardstick and yes united is the winner so far of the transfer window not the title. There is a difference. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Did Chelsea look good in preseason last year? Or even this year? Like we all know it's never a yardstick and yes united is the winner so far of the transfer window not the title. There is a difference.are u a man u supporter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Did Chelsea look good in preseason last year? Or even this year? Like we all know it's never a yardstick and yes united is the winner so far of the transfer window not the title. There is a difference.In the epl?There are other leagues outside of ENGLAND!Munich, Inter and atletico had better summers.Also, Chelsea played well the first game. Against PSG, I admit, we were shit. Kind of like how United beat barcelona even though barcelona was signficantly better than united. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Really losing hope that we'll sign a Top Box-2-Box CM.This mentality of winning the league with virtually the same squad has a great chance to blow up in out face. Luckily there's a January Window.My only worry is, if are right in the thick of the title race, does this confirm JM's notion of winning the League w/o reinforcements or make us buy the CM we should've in the summer. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitedkingpin 21 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 In the epl?There are other leagues outside of ENGLAND!Munich, Inter and atletico had better summers.Also, Chelsea played well the first game. Against PSG, I admit, we were shit. Kind of like how United beat barcelona even though barcelona was signficantly better than united. Yup in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I think there will be further arrivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I think there will be further arrivals.Me 2. I think we will sign one or two defenders. But what we need most is a solid all-round midfielder. Ideally he should be big, fast, defensively astute and score goals. Unfortunately Mou does not agree. Also it is not like those players don't grow on trees. Actually I can think of none who ticks all boxes. Vidal and Witsel would have been close but mou obviously rates neither. TheIceMan, Unionjack and Blue-in-me-Veins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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