Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 FFS. Come on Henrique, I really do expect better of you.I'll bite. Pray tell me, in what perverse way was the high line the reason of our defeat to Manchester United?From what I can remember long diagonal balls were a giant pain for us throughout the entire game. I believe we are a better side when we are more compact and sit deeper. But yeah, I can see your point that Ramires/Torres misses, two offside goals cost us.It's pretty difficult to win a game where the ref is blatantly biased to the other team. We were better than QPR with 9 men. Bad reffing was the reason for this defeat.I believe the only poor call was not to give us a penalty. The Bosingwa call is very debatable, I thought at the time (and still do) that it was correct. Certainly couldn't blame the ref for the decision. Luiz penalty was soft but 100% correct, it was just a very stupid moment from Luiz given that the player wasn't even going anywhere.And I think we can all agree on Drogs red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I believe the only poor call was not to give us a penalty. The Bosingwa call is very debatable, I thought at the time (and still do) that it was correct. Certainly couldn't blame the ref for the decision. Luiz penalty was soft but 100% correct, it was just a very stupid moment from Luiz given that the player wasn't even going anywhere.And I think we can all agree on Drogs red.We must of been watching a different game then. Bos was not a sending off, the penalty was soft but we had an exact same shout for a pen & never got it. Drogba no excuses that was stupidity on his part. But the ref was giving QPR every decision & we got none. If you can't see Chris Foy is a poor ref, re watch this game & the spurs Stoke game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Under Ancelotti last year, we couldnt score goals to save our lives. Under AVB we cant stop conceding goals to save our lives.I am content as long as we finish top 4. We are playing well, but like in all the games our finishing is BAD. Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs games we should have won had our finishing been good. Its a TRANSITION SEASON!!...Anyone that disagrees can fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEssien 127 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Meh, boring arguments. If you dont have anything useful to post, dont do it.The things come to a point that you cant even say you are not satisfied with the season that people start talking bullshit. If you are satisfied, thats your problem. Get out of my back and find someone ele to annoy. Thanks.You're quite an immature guy aren't you? Constantly try to correct others and assert your opinions as truth and if anyone goes against it and successfully counters your argument they're instantly "boring" and "bullshit" arguments.Grow up please. This is a forum. A difference of opinion is healthy for it.P.S. you're not Mourinho/Ancelotti etc so stop posting like you're a God of football. You're a fan, just like us all. Not superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 We must of been watching a different game then. Bos was not a sending off, the penalty was soft but we had an exact same shout for a pen & never got it. Drogba no excuses that was stupidity on his part. But the ref was giving QPR every decision & we got none. If you can't see Chris Foy is a poor ref, re watch this game & the spurs Stoke gameExactly!! Chris Foy was shocking in that game he lost it really and it seemed for whatever reason to book instead of a warning for the most minor things.And it aint the only game he messed up...And exactly we lost QPR but we did have 9 men and sod the result we showed such spirit in that game! Heck wasnt so bothered after about the result because bad as it was the players gave it their damn everything!And we were unlucky not to get a point but hey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 At the risk of sounding stupid, I ask again where you have seen "sack AVB or he's not good enough to manage, AVB out, etc etc".I don't see why people are so confrontational, he asked a question whether we are satisfied with our season so far... And I can see if people are not, because this season is one of the worst point wise in some 6-7 years.We have 2 more points than we had last season after 17 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 We have 2 more points than we had last season after 17 rounds.Good point. Looking at it now, do we not have a better point ratio in the games so far than in the entire last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Good point. Looking at it now, do we not have a better point ratio in the games so far than in the entire last season?I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 im not content at this point in the season.Not because we lost against united and all the other teams....Our loss to qpr was more like a win, considering how we played.The only reason i am not content is that Avb somehow fails to get players prepared and motivated for most games.... We get battered against many teams in the start of a match, and then are always catching up/.....And if we score a goal, it suddenly seems like the desire and passion to score another disappears...If you recall,,,, most of our games that we won, we scored earlyish, and then scored again really late like 86th minute or so/....and a couple of the matches where we couldnt put it to bed, the other team scored and 3 points became 1.... if only avb can keep them motivated and somehow keep the tempo high after we score and from the kickoff, we will be much better off.....We are never the team in a match that comes out all guns blazing.... why does it have to take 20 minutes for us to "SETTLE DOWN"?That is why i am not content.The fact is that he is really really young.... In terms of changing the old guard, he is trying.... but why offer drogba a new contract if we are going to change the old guard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Carlo couldn't motivate them, now AVB. Where is the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Drogba is still a decent player. He is currently the best striker we have, and the others (Torres, Lukaku, Kalou*) are not reliable enough I don't really buy that he's in form, in form players are those who have an outstanding goal record like RVP, Studge, Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko, Ba, etcHe only really had good games against City and Valencia. In others he did nowt goalscoring wise but his hold up play, passing, creating chances were better than anything we could have gotten from Torres and co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Carlo did, and we did score some 108 goals ....some record or something.... then last season it all went wrong for him.... He forgot that this is not italy and played the same players over and over again.... By the time he realised his screw ups, we were 12 points down... but then we played again and it was the title decider at united last season. ..He wasnt ballsy, but we never got raped by other teams the way we do now, alot of times, especially at the beginning of games.It is the players job to play their hearts out, but the manager has to get them mentally ready to attack and get control from the first whistle.We have Never Started a game well. Never. If we have, then we have almost never doubled our lead till the end.Totenham wouldnt have scored if we started a little better.Wigans goal wouldnt have mattered had we been able to keep up intensity after goal no 1.Manutd wouldnt have scored 3 before we had a chance to reply back.Liverpool have beaten us twice.QPR....lol at that game....we were so bloody unprepared that we crumbled....2 players get sent off....lol...then some passion from 9 chelsea players....then. Why not from the start with 11 men?We NEED to improve our INTENSITY and the coach is directly responsible for that. If the player doesnt give intensity, drop him, If more than one player has a lazy day. Drop them. Unlike what many say, we have many players waiting to prove themselves and play with passion and chase every ball in the park.They might not be superstars, but hey, our super stars are all mostly 33 or more....If this is indeed a transition, then january is the most important. Defender, midfielder and attacker. Dont wait till summer, Be ballsy AVB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 We have Never Started a game well.Valencia, Wolves, Arsenal, Genk.I'm sure they're a couple more that i can't remember.There are some games though, where for some reason we don't show up till late in the half or after the other team scores - this also happened with Carlo last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Compared to this time last year i can't help but be more than content with the direction off the club right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Thing that made me happy is the fact AVB has said about 3 or whatever....so he must have got some backing off Roman so hopfully we can acutally get some stablity at this club! May not pan out that way mind know what can happen but in theory.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 You're quite an immature guy aren't you? Constantly try to correct others and assert your opinions as truth and if anyone goes against it and successfully counters your argument they're instantly "boring" and "bullshit" arguments.Grow up please. This is a forum. A difference of opinion is healthy for it.P.S. you're not Mourinho/Ancelotti etc so stop posting like you're a God of football. You're a fan, just like us all. Not superior. :giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 :giggle:Yeah, because having two champions league titles does not make you one of the top managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah, because having two champions league titles does not make you one of the top managers.Rafa also almost won 2, with squads by far worst than those Carlo had.Is Rafa a top manager ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Rafa also almost won 2, with squads by far worst than those Carlo had.Is Rafa a top manager ?Yeah, he has done a lot with Valencia, not sure why people in England think he's below Kean/Coyle/etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah, he has done a lot with Valencia, not sure why people in England think he's below Kean/Coyle/etc.well, I dont think Rafa nor Carlo gods of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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