Juan Mata

[didierforever 7,349]

To be fair, our great Chelsea manager Jose has also deemed Oscar to be a better player than Mata. Sometimes a team or manager thinks or does doesn't always tell the whole story. So your example of Madrid preferring Isco to Ozil can't really prove anything of Ozil's capability as a player.

i was not the one saying "ozil is a level above than mata in creativity", he was. hence that argument. dont think it can in any way come back to me.

as for jose deeming oscar "a better player", i dont think so. jose wanted mata to adapt to his way. mata had played 45 minutes in the pre-season and against villa, he seemed match-unfit and physically unfit. mata needed the time. also jose wanted a no.10, who can defend. comeback and do a number on the opposition midfielder. if the point had been solely about who was more creative, it would be a no-brainer.

[Korea 734]

when i was born and watching football is none of your concern. TELL ME WHO WAS GERMANY'S NO.10 IN THE WC 2010 APART FROM OZIL. also germany plays with 4-2-3-1. so while every team might now have a no.10, germany definitely do. another time u have dodged this question. its getting pretty embarassing now.

they dint say isco was a better player, but the sale of ozil says he is pretty replacable. not something u would expect for the best cam in the world, right? i mean which team sells the world's best player???

u need to get a brain to understand football, but since u have been dealt a bad hand by god himself, who am i to complain.

if u want to give another stupid argument that mata should start over oscar, if he is that good, then if ozil is the best player in the world then he should have no problems in the RM team, right?

i thought mata too got called up for NT. by the way, when did NT be the criteria to see who the best player was?did ribery win his "best player in europe" award for his performances with france? as far as the NT goes. what has ozil won? mata has a WC and euros with spain, add to it his CL and EL with chelsea. tell me what has ozil won with one od the best clubs in europe (rm) and one of the best NT in the world (germany). seems people would go to any idiotic and senile levels to defend their arguments. keep up the charades!!!!

Germany didnt play with a number 10 during 2002 though 2008.... Spain still doesn't play with a solo number 10 as doesn't a lot of other countries... SURE IS GETTING EMBARRASSING.

So, I guess when Makelele left Madrid he also left due to fear of competition. WAIT, is that why Jose left RM TOO? Cause Zidane was going to take over eventually...

SO, if Cristiano left RM, I GUESS THAT MEANT BALE BEAT HIM OUT or he was scared of competition as well.

Also by your last argument I guess fernando torres is better than cavani, falcao, messi and cristiano.

Take your medication brah.

[didierforever 7,349]

Germany didnt play with a number 10 during 2002 though 2008.... Spain still doesn't play with a solo number 10 as doesn't a lot of other countries... SURE IS GETTING EMBARRASSING.

So, I guess when Makelele left Madrid he also left due to fear of competition. WAIT, is that why Jose left RM TOO? Cause Zidane was going to take over eventually...

SO, if Cristiano left RM, I GUESS THAT MEANT BALE BEAT HIM OUT or he was scared of competition as well.

Also by your last argument I guess fernando torres is better than cavani, falcao, messi and cristiano.

Take your medication brah.

u said, OZIL HAD A LOT OF COMPETITION IN NO.10 SPOT FOR GERMANY for WC 2010. dint u? did or did not germany play with a no.10 in wc 2010? did ozil play for germany from 2002 to 2008, NO. so who the fuck cares what happened then. also if u had a bit of a common sense and a milligram of a brain, u would have understood that "now" was actually "not" in the first sentence of my previous post which i have already edited. but seems to be too much for u.

makelele left cos perez deemed him surplus to requirements after getting beckham, to which zidane replied "Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine"... nothing was said so right now about the world's best player unfortunately. just goes on to tell how expendable ozil was.

IF CR GOES. BIG IF BUDDY. get in the real world. but probably a big ask for u. how is la-la-la land treating u?

since u r so adamant about saying how a person, who simply by selection into NT becomes a "LEVEL OVER" another one, i just gave your bizzare argument another twist. seems stupid, right?

get urself admitted into a mental asylum. i know, it wont help a lot. but miracles happen.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

People need to develop the maturity to agree to disagree....

Either way you're all wrong, the Special Juan > Ouizeilll, all day every day.

[carayip 15]

When will those "Mata to Club X" rumours ever die down, seriously?! And right now it's just October.

[Jase 43,479]

Paris Saint-Germain poised for £35million January swoop for Chelsea's Juan Mata

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Should never play on the wings again. Isnt fair for him or his skillset.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Mata played today and we didnt look good nor created much. Oh the irony...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I thought he did well today. From Twitter:

Juan Mata created the most chances (3) and completed 94% of his 53 passes against Norwich

[Jase 43,479]

I thought he did well today. From Twitter:

Juan Mata created the most chances (3) and completed 94% of his 53 passes against Norwich

Yeah. Thought he did alright. Wasn't at his best but neither was he bad. And it doesn't help when we just seem to lump the ball up to Ba and bypass the midfield half of the time..

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Missed 40 minutes of the first half. How was he?

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Missed 40 minutes of the first half. How was he?

Hardly involved after the break, but that was more down to the way the team approached the game after that.Chelsea played mostly on the counter and like Bluesmaster said, the team often bypassed Oscar and Mata in midfield in favour of pinging the ball to Ba.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Lost too many balls, a few good passes, but we never really controlled the game, so no surprise.

[didierforever 7,349]

was not that good. only really good "mata" moment was when he played that awesome ball to oscar who shot the ball closer to the thrown line than the goal. was unable to control the game too. very unlike-mata performance.

[Barbara 15,149]

Should never play on the wings again. Isnt fair for him or his skillset.

Oscar spent more time in the wings than Mata did though. Mata played mostly as our CAM today.

I thought he did well today. From Twitter:

Juan Mata created the most chances (3) and completed 94% of his 53 passes against Norwich

I really feel those stats are nonsense.... but well, whatever. He did assist Ba in that incredible goal he missed in the first half, but that was the only chance I remember he created for us

[yuvala 2,167]

Wasn't great but wasn't that bad either.. He created 2 chances that should have gone in.

One for Ba and one for Oscar.

[Jase 43,479]

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[Sheva. 5,373]

Mata played today and we didnt look good nor created much. Oh the irony...

I missed most of the 2nd half, but in the 1st, Mata was largely anonymous in attack but still created a clear cut chance for Ba. And the stat above said he created 3 in total.

That is simply what he does better than anyone else on this team - if there's a game Mata plays and we manage to create less chances, then it's only going to be worse without him on the pitch.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I missed most of the 2nd half, but in the 1st, Mata was largely anonymous in attack but still created a clear cut chance for Ba. And the stat above said he created 3 in total.

That is simply what he does better than anyone else on this team - if there's a game Mata plays and we manage to create less chances, then it's only going to be worse without him on the pitch.

The only problem in your argument is the simple fact Mata isnt our best creator anymore!

Oscar scored, gave an assist to Hazard, created a big chance for Schurrle to score and almost scored twice if not for a horrible finish. Everything put together already surpasses what Mata did the entire game (and I didnt even had to touch on his denfensive attributes)!

People love to moan about Mata and how he will magically fix all our problems, but the truth is Juan is still not 100%. And because of that, Jose is absolutely right in keeping Oscar as our starting CAM...

[Sheva. 5,373]

The only problem in your argument is the simple fact Mata isnt our best creator anymore!

Oscar scored, gave an assist to Hazard, created a big chance for Schurrle to score and almost scored twice if not for a horrible finish. Everything put together already surpasses what Mata did the entire game (and I didnt even had to touch on his denfensive attributes)!

People love to moan about Mata and how he will magically fix all our problems, but the truth is Juan is still not 100%. And because of that, Jose is absolutely right in keeping Oscar as our starting CAM...

Mata has proved for 2 seasons he's our best playmaker. Come end of the season if Oscar is playing at a level even remotely close to Mata in previous seasons, then i can entertain a different idea.

Also Oscar's pass was intercepted, only for Hazard to steal the ball due to a bad touch. Nevertheless an assist on the counter is not the same as when the opposition have everyone back. Oscar is decent/good at this, Mata is at a level close to Master Ozil. So to say he isn't our best creator, because of 9 games this season where he's had an inconsistent run in the team is just jokes.