Juan Mata

[different level 1,056]

If we sell Mata this winter, not only to United but in general, he has every right to hate our guts after everything he did for the club in the past two seasons.

[Pizy 18,487]

I think Rooney is coming here ya know.

He fucking better be.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

I never said instantly.

In addition, all those guys have been there for what? 1-2 seasons?

Majority of the superstars yes, but keep in mind the club was taken over by Qatar moneybags in 2011 while becoming the sole owner only in 2012.

[Korea 734]

Majority of the superstars yes, but keep in mind the club was taken over by Qatar moneybags in 2011 while becoming the sole owner only in 2012.

And when the next big thing comes, what makes you think they wont sell Mata to whoever?

[Kieran. 6,317]

BBC:

Manchester United make a bid for Chelsea midfielder Juan Mata in the region of £35m. Developing story: http://bbc.in/1g09nuq #MUFC #CFC

[SinineUltra 1,170]

And when the next big thing comes, what makes you think they wont sell Mata to whoever?

Am I talking to a brick wall here, mate?

[The only place to be 11,313]

so let me get this straight out, u want a system, which relies on the tremondous workrate of every player involved on the pitch to be continued to employed with absolutely no back-up and replacements? well seems fair to me. sell schurrle too.

No, I think we need 5 players for those 3 positions or use the 433 we've used sporadically this season to good effect.

Ideally we'd sign a 5th AM who wold be a right-sided, left-footed player who fits the system. At the moment we have Hazard, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle and Ramires (who can play on the right if needed) if Mata leaves.

[Jase 43,479]

Using Mata changes the system as well though. Haven't you noticed that?

And we've already used 433 with Rami in the middle interchanging with Oscar on the right and the pressing and counter system STILL worked. With Mata is simply doesn't.

Aye while that maybe true but you'll have to keep in mind that it was a rubbish West Ham side we played against, a West Ham side that is getting hammered in every game. Just because it worked against them, doesn't mean it will work against others and besides, that is only 1 game or in other words, such a small sample size to use as a counter argument to the squad depth point. In fact, I haven't seen anyone provide a solid reason or two that we can survive with 4 AMs for 3 positions for the remainder of the season.

From the 'business' point of view, yeah I can see the benefits of getting 40m for a supposedly squad player which we can use the money for something else. I get that. However from the squad's perspective, where does this leave us for the remainder of the season? We'll only have 4 AMs then for 3 positions and it takes an injury to someone before we get down to our bare bones all of a sudden. There is no doubt that we have done well recently and with the trio of Hazard-Oscar-Willian and there's arguably no reason to break that up.

However, I think people are getting carried away by that and forgetting in the past few weeks, we have only played a game once a week. Hence, there wasn't real need to change a winning team, if you like, as everyone is fresh and that is why the likes of Mata, Schurrle, Cole etc haven't played and only do when being called upon. If you all remember when we had tons of games before January, like every 3-4 days we have a game to play and the whole squad was basically utilized then, not just Mata, not just Schurrle but the full squad. After this week, we'll be basically playing a game every 3-4 days once more and when that time comes, we'll need everyone to come in and do their job as we cannot expect the current XI lot to play and perform every week.

Am aware that with just 4 AMs, we could switch to a 4-3-3 again but every time when Mourinho has used that approach this season, it's only done to counter the opposition (e.g Arsenal away) or to close a game out. Of course, he did play it against West Ham but I suspect that was just more of adapting to the opposition we face. Mourinho has admitted that 4-2-3-1 is his favoured formation previously and even if we were to change formation from time to time, I don't think it will help much with the consistency. Moreover, changing to the 4-3-3 is one thing but would any of our current strikers be comfortable with that? Still gotta make sure everyone is comfortable within a system and not just having 1-2 parts functioning and the rest not.

All in all, I can see both point of views in selling Mata but I just think there will be more negative impact on us if we were to do that now and this is excluding the implications of selling him to United.

[The Mak 4,459]

Back on the ignore list with you. Enjoy your pint.

Thank fuck for that! You just enjoy yourself down there!

[Special Juan 27,492]

Meltdown close.

[Korea 734]

Am I talking to a brick wall here, mate?

Your the one that not reading properly...

I never sell they would sell Mata instantly. You just assumed it.

In addition, my point was if PSG bought Mata, what makes you think he wont return to the BPl within a few years when they realize they dont need him anymore?

[bababoom 4,478]

Selling to United feels so wrong...

[Weckerz 3,781]

Selling to United feels so wrong...

Because it is wrong.

[oman43 45]

He didn't train today. Can only see this going one way. Selling to Man Utd as well, it could have been anyone else! Mata needs to play as its a world cup year, I'll have nothing against him if he leaves.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Did any updates come out about his supposed transfer to United?

Guardian reporting that the only thing stalling the deal is that Chelsea want a pre-agreement about Rooney in the summer. A lot of reliable sources are saying that united are interested and that we are interested in selling as well.

[robsblubot 3,554]

If we sell Mata this winter, not only to United but in general, he has every right to hate our guts after everything he did for the club in the past two seasons.

not sure about that. He seems to be 100% professional in every sense of the word.

Regardless whether you rate him a top CAM or not, his professionalism can't be questioned.

For this reason, the fact he missed training suggests the deal is imminent.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

Matt Law

@Matt_Law_DT

Juan Mata has told friends and family he is joining Manchester United

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Your the one that not reading properly...

I never sell they would sell Mata instantly. You just assumed it.

In addition, my point was if PSG bought Mata, what makes you think he wont return to the BPl within a few years when they realize they dont need him anymore?

Who gives a fuck if they do? 2-3 years is a century in terms of football, maybe ManUtd don't even need him then? We'd be still 30-40- mil richer while not having strengthened our league rivals.