Juan Mata

[Korea 734]

i have given the stats above. please do take a look. also bear in mind that ozil is "assisting" to CR while mata has to do that to torres.

please tell me how ozil is a whole different level???

Ozil starts as a cam for both Arsenal and Germany and he was the number 10 for mourinho real madrid.

Germany has better players their spain now, and he is their best player in germany save lahm and neuer.

Mata wouldnt touch Germany.

However, one think Mata is better than Ozil is scoring (and thats it.)

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

I really hope your not comparing Ozil to Mata, cus OZIl is a whole different level than Mata.

IF he was as good as Ozil, Mata would be starting over Oscar.

Like I said before, Ozil going to win poty for bpl.

Stupid argument given Isco drove him away from Real

[Korea 734]

it's like basketball, people assume cause you get assists, your a good passer/creative....

Russell westbrook avg like 7 assists a game and anyone that knows basketball will tell you how rubbish he is as a pg as with derrick rose.

TBH, that what Juan Mata reminds me of. A hybrid pg, someone whose natural position should be SG, however, they play pg cause of their size.

[Korea 734]

Stupid argument given Isco drove him away from Real

Not really, Perez was always going to sell either Di Maria or Ozil.

So, in reality it was the acquisition of Bale, the hiring of Carlos and the idiotic mind of Perez that drove him out. Ozil loved being in Madrid and had good chemistry with the team, however, things happened and he left...

[didierforever 7,349]

Ozil starts as a cam for both Arsenal and Germany and he was the number 10 for mourinho real madrid.

Germany has better players their spain now, and he is their best player in germany save lahm and neuer.

Mata wouldnt touch Germany.

However, one think Mata is better than Ozil is scoring (and thats it.)

so suddenly arsenal is better than chelsea. and pray tell me how did germany get better players than spain? just because they have won the CL? podolski still starts ahead of reus/gotze/muller whenever he is fit and that has got nothing to do, with him being being better than any of them. its what loew prefers.

mata would not touch germany because he does not need to. he is a WC winner, EURO winner, CL and EL winner compared to what? copa del ray.

but yes, ozil is better just because he is germany's no.10. (brilliant argument). and as a person above pointed out, does that make isco better than ozil???

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Not really, Perez was always going to sell either Di Maria or Ozil.

So, in reality it was the acquisition of Bale, the hiring of Carlos and the idiotic mind of Perez that drove him out. Ozil loved being in Madrid and had good chemistry with the team, however, things happened and he left...

Yea and Carlo preferred Isco at the 10 so Ozil asked to leave

[Korea 734]

Yea and Carlo preferred Isco at the 10 so Ozil asked to leave

not really. He didn't get the money or his father wanted more money and it was always denied by Perez. It was publicly stated that money was a big issue with the other issues why he left Madrid.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

not really. He didn't get the money or his father wanted more money and it was always denied by Perez. It was publicly stated that money was a big issue with the other issues why he left Madrid.

If you say so

[didierforever 7,349]

not really. He didn't get the money or his father wanted more money and it was always denied by Perez. It was publicly stated that money was a big issue with the other issues why he left Madrid.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2013/09/12/4257164/ozil-lacked-strength-to-fight-for-a-place-claims-zidane

and u should not disagree with somethin zidane says. infact i will take what zidane says over any "stories" of how he dint get money or things.

[The Skipper 20,609]

it's like basketball, people assume cause you get assists, your a good passer/creative....

Russell westbrook avg like 7 assists a game and anyone that knows basketball will tell you how rubbish he is as a pg as with derrick rose.

TBH, that what Juan Mata reminds me of. A hybrid pg, someone whose natural position should be SG, however, they play pg cause of their size.

That's rubbish. Just because RW is an unorthodox PG doesn't mean he's a bad one. Yeah, he's not like your traditional PG but to say he's rubbish compared to someone like D. Rose is so far fetched.

Similarly, yeah, I could understand people who say Ozil is slightly better but to say Mata is not in Ozil's league is ridiculous, and to say Mata isn't a good passer or creative just because the number of assists he gets clouds that is also ridiculous.

Mata is one of the most creative no. 10's in the world. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise IMO.

[Korea 734]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2013/09/12/4257164/ozil-lacked-strength-to-fight-for-a-place-claims-zidane

and u should not disagree with somethin zidane says. infact i will take what zidane says over any "stories" of how he dint get money or things.

YEA GOAL.COM. Anyways, I already read that long time ago, however, you forget the person that lost his cool in the world cup and lost.

That's rubbish. Just because RW is an unorthodox PG doesn't mean he's a bad one. Yeah, he's not like your traditional PG but to say he's rubbish compared to someone like D. Rose is so far fetched.

Similarly, yeah, I could understand people who say Ozil is slightly better but to say Mata is not in Ozil's league is ridiculous, and to say Mata isn't a good passer or creative just because the number of assists he gets clouds that is also ridiculous.

Mata is one of the most creative no. 10's in the world. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise IMO.

I said their both rubbish true pgs. You and your terrible basketball knowledge.

[didierforever 7,349]

YEA GOAL.COM. Anyways, I already read that long time ago, however, you forget the person that lost his cool in the world cup and lost.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/13/mesut-ozil-didnt-have-strength-to-fight-for-real-madrid-place-says-zinedine-zidane-3982276/

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1551302/zinedine-zidane-mesut-ozil-left-real-madrid-lack-fight

want me to find more sites with the same news? seems people cant accept the truth,

and since this was not the WC final and the fact that he dint head butt any reporter in the PC there, i think its safe to assume that zidane is right or due u think he loses his cool 24*7 because he lost his cool once. also i would rather accept what zidane says than the "FIBS AND STORIES" about how ozil wanted money but his dad blah blah blah...

[Korea 734]

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/13/mesut-ozil-didnt-have-strength-to-fight-for-real-madrid-place-says-zinedine-zidane-3982276/

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1551302/zinedine-zidane-mesut-ozil-left-real-madrid-lack-fight

want me to find more sites with the same news? seems people cant accept the truth,

and since this was not the WC final and the fact that he dint head butt any reporter in the PC there, i think its safe to assume that zidane is right or due u think he loses his cool 24*7 because he lost his cool once. also i would rather accept what zidane says than the "FIBS AND STORIES" about how ozil wanted money but his dad blah blah blah...

When did I say the report wasn't true?

I love how people say he didn't want to fight for competition, when he started for Germany wc 2010 and real madrid soon after.

On a side note, Zidane was always known as a hothead, but you wouldn't know that since you didnt watch football than..

[Rom2013 446]

Ozil is a lot better than Mata, is a lot better than Isco, for me he is the best number 10 in the world by far.

The problem for Ozil is that Real Madrid is a special club, the best club in the history of this sport, and they want always more, and more. They wanted Bale, they bought Isco, they had Modric and they needed to sell one of them.

Modric can play in a lot of positions, Isco is better for tiki taka (and he is also spanish), so Ozil had to go because he wanted more money and because he had a lot of competition to enter in the starting eleven. It wouldn't be so dificult to play in any other team in the world.

Numbers are important in football, but for example Iniesta is better than Ozil and a lot better than Mata but looking for assists and goals he is worst.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1330012508587/jugador/Jugador/Ozil.htm

http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/84775/mesut-%C3%B6zil

I'm not sure of your source. I think he played more matches than that in three years. Look at the one from barbara's site. I shows more assists above 90 for ozil and he had the highest assists in 3 years for europe, then messi was second.

But mata is a far better finisher though