Martina 210 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I don't care about the hierarchy. I care about people acting as if Mourinho is infallible and that selling our player of the season for the past two years to one of our biggest rivals is some sort of genius masterstroke by him - when in actual fact no one has a fucking clue how this is all going to pan out. The whole point is - Mata asked to leave. José didn’t force him to join Man United, did he? A Chelsea player asked to leave the club and join another (our rivals). It was his personal choice. chillerz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 22, 2014 Some on here would justify buying a monkey for 20mil.If 'it' fits Mourinho's system, yes. The Mak, The Chels, nadavTKL and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The whole point is - Mata asked to leave. José didn’t force him to join Man United, did he? A Chelsea player asked to leave the club and join another (our rivals). It was his personal choice.yes, he asked, because Mourinho does not fancy him in his plans. it aint like he has no reason for it or Mou isnt the reason lol. but you can always turn it aroudn how you want, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Well goodbye mata. thanks for all the great memories and joy you brought to the lives of some of us.A true artist and a total gentlemen as well. Not many players can be called an artistic genius in football but he belongs in that elite category. wishing him good luck. Gilvorak, The Chels and Christo191 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 37+17=54-21=33.= Diego Costa release clause.Problem solved. Rmpr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The whole point is - Mata asked to leave. José didn’t force him to join Man United, did he? A Chelsea player asked to leave the club and join another (our rivals). It was his personal choice.Has he handed in a transfer request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina 210 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 yes, he asked, because Mourinho does not fancy him in his plans. it aint like he has no reason for it or Mou isnt the reason lol. but you can always turn it aroudn how you want, eh?Benitez didn’t fancy Terry and AVB didn’t fancy Lampard. They’re still our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Benitez didn’t fancy Terry and AVB didn’t fancy Lampard. They’re still our players.benitez was an interim manager. avb didnt even last until the transfer window opened and he got fired BECAUSE OF Lampard and Terry for a big part. obvious bullshit talking by a mourinho fanboy Gilvorak and didierforever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 22, 2014 I don't care about the hierarchy. I care about people acting as if Mourinho is infallible and that selling our player of the season for the past two years to one of our biggest rivals is some sort of genius masterstroke by him - when in actual fact no one has a fucking clue how this is all going to pan out. Mata isn't a Mourinho-style player. Get over it. Players come and go. Mourinho put faith in Ozil over Kaka.He put faith in Lopez over Casillas. Now he's putting faith in Oscar over Mata. I'm gonna stand in his corner. chillerz, Symbol123, Barbara and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina 210 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Has he handed in a transfer request?According to "The Times" he asked to leave this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchuka 99 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 At first i was raving mad about this alleged transferI've since sipped some b-milk and calmed downI cant really blame him for wanting to move on. I can only thank him for what he's helped us accomplish the past few seasons.He can help Utd scrape points off City, Arsenal and CoAlso, We will use the 40M and get trigger Diego Costas 32M release clause, with change to sparePS - Im an eternal optimist though, so take my words with a pinch and half of salt BlueLion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Mata isn't a Mourinho-style player. Get over it. Players come and go. Mourinho put faith in Ozil over Kaka.He put faith in Lopez over Casillas. Now he's putting faith in Oscar over Mata. I'm gonna stand in his corner. Kaka was shit. thats why he opted for Özil. And Özil already played for Pellegrini. Lopez only played because Casillas was injured for a time. Really not comparable at ALL to Mata/Oscar situation. Azpinator and Gilvorak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobematabryant 400 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 No offence but that's a bloody short-sighted view. He may help them get points off Arsenal and City or not this season. He's not going single handedly make every United player turn world class all of a sudden to turn those lots over. Moreover, he will improve United in the long term.I agree that this view is a short sighted view, in the long run, it may or not benefit them however. We can't certainly predict how he will do at Man United. However, we need to look at positive side of things. With the arrival of Mourinho, Mata has been on the bench due to him not fitting to Mourinho's style. What is the point of keeping a player that Mourinho does not need? Considering Mourinho will be here for a while (hopefully). Selling it to Man Utd would sound most reasonable since they are giving us the most offer. Keeping Mata would damage his international and overall career as a whole. If he is not sold now, his chance of being picked for Spain Squad at Brazil would be low. He needs game time.Farewell Mata, we love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Mou might be a great tactician, but he's shown more than once how shit he can be with his transfers. The Chels, Christo191, Johnny Kills and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 37M BlueLion. and CHOULO19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Mak 4,459 Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 22, 2014 The whole point is - Mata asked to leave. José didn’t force him to join Man United, did he? A Chelsea player asked to leave the club and join another (our rivals). It was his personal choice.Oh give over. Yes, it is well known by now that José was saying that we wouldn't sell unless he asked for the move. By him just announcing that it put pressure on Mata to do it - so of course he was, he wants to play. You can't hold it against him. It was obvious José didn't want him, so he could've just sold him but he didn't. That's because he wanted to basically force Juan to ask for the move so he would have a nice excuse to point to. Toli, couris, Blue-in-me-Veins and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Mou might be a great tactician, but he's shown more than once how shit he can be with his transfers.Which manager hasnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Great article:http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/11843?cc=5901We've heard time and again how selling to a direct Premier League competitor is a mistake. Other have argued how if Chelsea agree, they must not view United as a direct rival. But in this day and age, it's all nonsense. Let the market do its thing. Yes, if Mata goes to United and scores a hat-trick against Chelsea, the punditocracy will say, "Hah! What fools? See? You should never sell to a direct rival!"Funny, though, how if Chelsea take the proposed Mata fee (latest quote: 45 million euros, approximately $61 million) and use it to buy someone who then scores a hat-trick against United, nobody is going to rise up and make that same argument. Nobody is going to bleat: "See? They should have never bought a player from a direct rival! That was United's $61 million that ended up buying the guy who scored that hat-trick!"Players are commodities. So is cash. If the price is right, you sell or buy, no matter what idiocies the media comes up with.If United have 40M to spend, they will get better with or without Mata, I don't think it's about improving them because if they don't get Mata now they'll get Reus or some other world class players in the summer with that kind of money.His sale was inevitable, and I'm sure everyone would have preferred to leave it till the summer but with the world cup looming and Spain as one of the favourites, you can't really blame Mata for requesting a move away now as it doesn't look like he was going to be a key player here and most likely would not have made the WC squad. Can't blame him and won't blame him.The only negative is that we all love him and it'll just hurt to see him at United. It hurt to see him on the bench but slowly we accepted that and I'm sure if we re-invest the monies and get stronger and win the title, it'll def help us move on. Barbara and Belgiannutt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 37M CHOULO19, chillerz and Valdo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina 210 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Oh give over. Yes, it is well known by now that José was saying that we wouldn't sell unless he asked for the move. By him just announcing that it put pressure on Mata to do it - so of course he was, he wants to play. You can't hold it against him. It was obvious José didn't want him, so he could've just sold him but he didn't. That's because he wanted to basically force Juan to ask for the move so he would have a nice excuse to point to. José doesn’t do excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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